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Post by downwarddog on May 26, 2021 8:19:48 GMT -6
There are none so blind as those who will not see. I'm sure Anna believes someone planted it or would be willing to throw one of her brothers-in-law under the bus if it meant the accused was exonerated. The fact that among his first comments when the feds showed up was to ask them if they were looking for "child porn" (when they made zero mention or hint of that) tells me all I need to know. what the hell - why on earth would he say that?! Because he's really really smart. *eye roll*
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Post by Jesslfar on May 26, 2021 8:59:57 GMT -6
There are none so blind as those who will not see. I'm sure Anna believes someone planted it or would be willing to throw one of her brothers-in-law under the bus if it meant the accused was exonerated. The fact that among his first comments when the feds showed up was to ask them if they were looking for "child porn" (when they made zero mention or hint of that) tells me all I need to know. what the hell - why on earth would he say that?! He’s a dumbass. He spent hours downloading and deleting the same video somewhere around 20 or 30 times which caused him to be on their radar. He knew exactly why they showed up but wasn’t smart enough to not say the words or to suggest other employees were present and he wasn’t.
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Post by agm04 on May 26, 2021 12:47:45 GMT -6
Jesslfar is the one he downloaded repeatedly that especially awful one i've read about? i mean they are all awful, of course.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on May 26, 2021 12:49:18 GMT -6
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Post by agm04 on May 26, 2021 12:53:30 GMT -6
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Post by Jesslfar on May 26, 2021 13:17:11 GMT -6
Not that everything he looked at wasn’t horrible, looking at this particular video and going to the effort of deleting and downloading over and over really sinks in how messed up he is.
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Post by agm04 on May 26, 2021 13:35:24 GMT -6
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Post by willow on May 26, 2021 13:48:05 GMT -6
Not that everything he looked at wasn’t horrible, looking at this particular video and going to the effort of deleting and downloading over and over really sinks in how messed up he is. Yes, after reading what the video was in more detail, the fact that it was downloaded so many times....it is just...beyond the pale.
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Post by xtine22 on May 26, 2021 15:26:37 GMT -6
I’m pretty sure she has blamed Biden. Like I’m not even joking.... 🙄 She thinks Biden is out to get her family and it Trump was still president this would Not have happened.... Y’know despite when the raid actually happened Trump was the president.
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Post by Sweetjane on May 26, 2021 15:45:33 GMT -6
I’m pretty sure she has blamed Biden. Like I’m not even joking.... 🙄 She thinks Biden is out to get her family and it Trump was still president this would Not have happened.... Y’know despite when the raid actually happened Trump was the president. I highly doubt she has any idea about politics/presidency, the two of them are total dummies because their parents refused to give them any sort of well rounded education. She is totally blank behind the eyes.
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Post by beesquared on May 26, 2021 17:49:03 GMT -6
I’m pretty sure she has blamed Biden. Like I’m not even joking.... 🙄 She thinks Biden is out to get her family and it Trump was still president this would Not have happened.... Y’know despite when the raid actually happened Trump was the president. It’s clearly all a conspiracy to bring their family. Obviously she was monitoring him with their covenant eyes software, so the dark web split vpn is faked to set him up. I’m sure that is what she is being told.
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Post by lolacachia on May 26, 2021 19:58:30 GMT -6
What I saw was that they all think it’s a conspiracy Bc they are good friends with the Huckabee family and Sara is running for office. So clearly setting up the Duggars will foil her run. 😂
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Post by joy on May 27, 2021 6:35:45 GMT -6
I’m curious was Anna means by “innocent.”
Innocent in that he didn’t download the images? Innocent that he never looked at them? Innocent in that he is a man and gave into urges because she was not a good wife in some way? Innocent in that the US laws do not matter to them and only God’s law does?
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Post by Radley on May 27, 2021 8:36:04 GMT -6
I really really hope that source is wrong and Anna is not allowing the kids to be with him. I’m forever pissed at the judge for not protecting those kids from him. Anna needs to keep the kids away.
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Post by lolacachia on May 27, 2021 9:33:22 GMT -6
I really really hope that source is wrong and Anna is not allowing the kids to be with him. I’m forever pissed at the judge for not protecting those kids from him. Anna needs to keep the kids away. I thought the reports were that Anna and the kids have been seen spending all their time at the house Josh is staying at. It’s Anna... we all know she isn’t keeping the kids away.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on May 27, 2021 9:50:30 GMT -6
I would be absolutely shocked if he isn't spending time with his kids. Anna has to do whatever he says.
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Post by MichaelScott on May 27, 2021 13:46:38 GMT -6
But didn't the judge and the court system allow Josh to see the kids?
Let's say Anna decided to not let her kids around him... you all think that he wouldn't be allowed? That's... not how things work.
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Post by lolacachia on May 27, 2021 13:55:16 GMT -6
But didn't the judge and the court system allow Josh to see the kids? Let's say Anna decided to not let her kids around him... you all think that he wouldn't be allowed? That's... not how things work. Well I think it’s under the supervision of Anna and his guardian people. So I guess in theory she could choose to not allow it to happen and then he would have to go to court to fight that right? Of course it was a waste of my time typing this Bc she wouldn’t go against him anyways.
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Post by MichaelScott on May 27, 2021 14:02:26 GMT -6
But didn't the judge and the court system allow Josh to see the kids? Let's say Anna decided to not let her kids around him... you all think that he wouldn't be allowed? That's... not how things work. Well I think it’s under the supervision of Anna and his guardian people. So I guess in theory she could choose to not allow it to happen and then he would have to go to court to fight that right? Of course it was a waste of my time typing this Bc she wouldn’t go against him anyways. I'll keep saying that Anna is complicit but it feels so weird for the focus to be on her parenting versus the actual pedo and the court system. I'm sure that's not what you all meant but that's how it's reading.
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Post by lolacachia on May 27, 2021 16:13:56 GMT -6
Well I think it’s under the supervision of Anna and his guardian people. So I guess in theory she could choose to not allow it to happen and then he would have to go to court to fight that right? Of course it was a waste of my time typing this Bc she wouldn’t go against him anyways. I'll keep saying that Anna is complicit but it feels so weird for the focus to be on her parenting versus the actual pedo and the court system. I'm sure that's not what you all meant but that's how it's reading. Huh? Who is focusing on her parenting?
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Post by willow on May 27, 2021 16:39:51 GMT -6
I'll keep saying that Anna is complicit but it feels so weird for the focus to be on her parenting versus the actual pedo and the court system. I'm sure that's not what you all meant but that's how it's reading. Huh? Who is focusing on her parenting? I think she means the comments about whether she is keeping the kids away or not vs whether the court did. I’ll say it doesn’t shock me they (the court) didn’t keep the kids away. Unless a CPS investigation revealed that he was at risk to the children, I wouldn’t see it happening. I agree it should but that just isn’t how these cases always work.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 27, 2021 19:20:03 GMT -6
Huh? Who is focusing on her parenting? I think she means the comments about whether she is keeping the kids away or not vs whether the court did. I’ll say it doesn’t shock me they (the court) didn’t keep the kids away. Unless a CPS investigation revealed that he was at risk to the children, I wouldn’t see it happening. I agree it should but that just isn’t how these cases always work. Part of the defense of him getting out on bail is he has not reoffended and it has been at least 10 years since his past sin. The court had no evidence he was creating or distributing images or doing things to kids IRL
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Post by willow on May 27, 2021 19:38:31 GMT -6
I think she means the comments about whether she is keeping the kids away or not vs whether the court did. I’ll say it doesn’t shock me they (the court) didn’t keep the kids away. Unless a CPS investigation revealed that he was at risk to the children, I wouldn’t see it happening. I agree it should but that just isn’t how these cases always work. Part of the defense of him getting out on bail is he has not reoffended and it has been at least 10 years since his past sin. The court had no evidence he was creating or distributing images or doing things to kids IRL Yeah I can definitely see how those things would sway a judge in allowing supervised contact with the kids. I assume CPS found nothing of concern in their investigation (I haven’t read that there was one but I cannot imagine it not being triggered from a charge like this). It does not mean he hasn’t done anything to his kids but I would hope CPS was thorough enough to feel ok about the visitation. Do I feel ok with it? No, I think he’s a monster who shouldn’t even be allowed out of jail right now but from a purely legal perspective, I also get it.
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Post by Radley on May 28, 2021 16:12:38 GMT -6
If the court can say “you haven’t been found guilty of anything but stay away from all the other kids” they can also say “you haven’t been been found guilty of anything but stay away from your kids”. At least it seems like that TO ME - a nonlawyer
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Post by cateyes on Jun 8, 2021 22:16:19 GMT -6
If the court can say “you haven’t been found guilty of anything but stay away from all the other kids” they can also say “you haven’t been been found guilty of anything but stay away from your kids”. At least it seems like that TO ME - a nonlawyer But they can’t. It’s a weird spot to be in but, especially in a conservative state, parent rights trump all. So unless it can be proven he is a danger to HIS kids under supervision, he can still see them. This is the worst part of my job. Also, parents can do terrible, horrible, awful things to their children and CPS has to work with the parents and provide visits unless it’s unsafe during those visits. Also, NOT defending him, but most criminals perp ether on their kids or on other kids but not both. It’s highly likely he engaged in these secret videos but unlikely he transgressed against his own kids. Fingers crossed he is part of that statistic.
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Post by thechickencoop on Jun 9, 2021 7:56:49 GMT -6
If the court can say “you haven’t been found guilty of anything but stay away from all the other kids” they can also say “you haven’t been been found guilty of anything but stay away from your kids”. At least it seems like that TO ME - a nonlawyer But they can’t. It’s a weird spot to be in but, especially in a conservative state, parent rights trump all. So unless it can be proven he is a danger to HIS kids under supervision, he can still see them. This is the worst part of my job. Also, parents can do terrible, horrible, awful things to their children and CPS has to work with the parents and provide visits unless it’s unsafe during those visits. Also, NOT defending him, but most criminals perp ether on their kids or on other kids but not both. It’s highly likely he engaged in these secret videos but unlikely he transgressed against his own kids. Fingers crossed he is part of that statistic.
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Post by mathlete on Jun 24, 2021 14:20:28 GMT -6
Dang. Why is this not surprising. Blogger Without a Crystal Ball even has a theory that Hannah may have been part of Jim Bob's arrangement — he found her a courtship with Anna's brother in exchange for the Rebers hosting Josh at their home. cafemom.com/entertainment/david-keller-dating-hannah-reber?
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Post by lolacachia on Jun 25, 2021 13:09:24 GMT -6
What a dysfunctional fucking group.
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Post by cdnfroggy on Jun 25, 2021 13:51:21 GMT -6
The podcast Some Place Under Neith is doing a deep dive into the church/cult the duggars belong to and it's enraging and really interesting. It goes into how it's teachings etc. can lead to people like Josh being...Josh. It's horrifying.
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Post by lolacachia on Jun 25, 2021 16:35:41 GMT -6
The podcast Some Place Under Neith is doing a deep dive into the church/cult the duggars belong to and it's enraging and really interesting. It goes into how it's teachings etc. can lead to people like Josh being...Josh. It's horrifying. As much as I dislike without a crystal ball on YouTube Bc the woman just says some dumb shit sometimes, her videos are a quick and easy way to really deep dive on it all too.
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