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Post by jkjacq on Nov 30, 2017 8:42:27 GMT -6
I would fully support this. Make a sticker. "I pulled my gifted child out of school to help for their future." Last time we went to the Hill he met Chuck Schumer. I'm just saying, it could spark a future in politics  this is probably MORE beneficial than being in school  So I'm team pull him out of school while you're at it can you get me out of work and there too? |
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Post by mb3 on Nov 30, 2017 8:45:12 GMT -6
I think the goal is more tax revenue, but the harm to university educations is intentional. There is a segment if the GOP that views universities as hotbeds of liberalism that need to be eliminated. I am so tired of seeing the war on Education. They have been getting rid of funding for education since the 90s. Dropping for arts programs, sports teams, funding for public colleges and now this. They can spend $700B on military but they can't dump $1B on bringing the next generation of law makers to a higher standard? Even making the country smarter? Do they all think we live in a snapshot in time? And then they wonder why our progress isn't compatible with other countries. |
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 30, 2017 8:46:13 GMT -6
The screwing grad students is also a hot topic here. If this had happened when my husband was in school, he would have had to drop out or drop down to part time and get a job which isn't really doable for a lot of fields. I was already working two and three jobs. I would have to take another just to make up for his tax bill. As it stands, he works at a university (but not as a professor) and he could lose the students who work for him if they can't get loans or if their visas aren't renewed. I worked at a university for more than a decade and the culture is that to compete the private universities are not looking at it as a educational institution anymore. They look at it as a business. They fired staff, reorganized all the departments, got rid of 90% of adjunct professors and started charging more for basic services. Not to mention changing food distribution around to a $ based system instead of a points based system. They were preparing for it. Not to mention since I started there the tuition rode over 600%. I worked at a place that the wealthy sent a good number of their kids but even so those who can't afford that and have FAFSA it means they are locked in to owing money for LIFE. And the University degree is becoming useless now. There is no need to be a "well rounded student". People are better off going to a not yet shut down community college and then learning a trade or just straight learning a trade. They have more opportunity to find job and will make more. Which leads me to then think that is what the tax plan wants. For us lower income people to "stay in our lane". |
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Post by Minerva on Nov 30, 2017 8:46:30 GMT -6
dc2london, pull him out. If there was ever a kid to understand and appreciate this opportunity, it is your DS1.
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 30, 2017 8:49:14 GMT -6
I would fully support this. Make a sticker. "I pulled my gifted child out of school to help for their future." Last time we went to the Hill he met Chuck Schumer. I'm just saying, it could spark a future in politics With you as their mommy and how well you keep us informed I wouldn't doubt it. "Little dc2london 2040" ^_^ |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 8:49:16 GMT -6
It also gives everyone in AL who is borderline on voting for Roy Moore an excuse to vote for him. |
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2017 8:52:15 GMT -6
Well.
He's firing Rex.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2017 8:52:51 GMT -6
White House Envisions Tillerson Ouster From State Dept., to Be Replaced by Pompeo, Within Weeks nyti.ms/2kcg45o |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 8:53:31 GMT -6
The thing about this tax bill is it doesn't stop here. It's a first step and will be an excuse next year to cut entitlements. Rubio just said as much out loud.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 8:53:49 GMT -6
White House Envisions Tillerson Ouster From State Dept., to Be Replaced by Pompeo, Within Weeks nyti.ms/2kcg45oHere we go... |
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Post by Minerva on Nov 30, 2017 8:54:06 GMT -6
I keep hearing people say that university degrees are useless these days. I don’t get that impression at all. For so many industries, you need a degree just to get in the door. And maybe I just had exceptional professors, but I know that my reading, writing, and critical thinking skills all drastically improved while I was in college because I had to use them in so many diverse capacities (science major, humanities minor). I also gained skills in statistics, coding, and a wide variety of techniques in biology and chemistry that make me more employable. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 30, 2017 8:54:49 GMT -6
Because he wouldnt go with Ivanka to wherever shes heading? (I know thats not the real reason but probably a contributing factor) |
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 30, 2017 8:55:35 GMT -6
I am so tired of seeing the war on Education. They have been getting rid of funding for education since the 90s. Dropping for arts programs, sports teams, funding for public colleges and now this. They can spend $700B on military but they can't dump $1B on bringing the next generation of law makers to a higher standard? Even making the country smarter? Do they all think we live in a snapshot in time? And then they wonder why our progress isn't compatible with other countries. Right?! I fully expect to do the Swedish model when DD is old enough to bring homework home. For every hour of learning there is 45 minutes of play. They come back more relaxed and better able to pay attention and it also releases any pent up energy. We really need to take a look at educational studies to get on top of alter our system on what works better and how to accommodate students with special needs. I am tired of the dumbing down. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 8:58:51 GMT -6
TOM COTTON as CIA Chief
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 30, 2017 8:58:55 GMT -6
It also gives everyone in AL who is borderline on voting for Roy Moore an excuse to vote for him. There is now a retired Marine Colonel running a 14 day write in campaign to give Republicans a better option than Roy Moore and not the Dem. Lee Busby is his name was on NPR? He does support the tax plan. Surprise, surprise. Independent Alabama Senate Candidate Launches Write-In Bid |
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Post by cmb on Nov 30, 2017 9:00:18 GMT -6
The screwing grad students is also a hot topic here. If this had happened when my husband was in school, he would have had to drop out or drop down to part time and get a job which isn't really doable for a lot of fields. I was already working two and three jobs. I would have to take another just to make up for his tax bill. As it stands, he works at a university (but not as a professor) and he could lose the students who work for him if they can't get loans or if their visas aren't renewed. We would not have been able to afford to continue. We were PhD candidates that left when policies changed to make being a grad student harder. I tutored under the table to help make ends meet, and if this had happened then, it would have nearly tripled our taxable income. It's already hard enough to be a grad student, and I know people that had already maxed out their loans and we're barely making it. This is going to make things so much harder for grad school and undergrad, due to the lack of gtas for labs and classes. My H would have had to drop out. His tuition waiver was double his stipend. He spent just under 7 years doing his PhD, each year with a waiver. That’s a lot of freaking taxes for someone making less than what unemployment would pay |
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 30, 2017 9:02:31 GMT -6
White House Envisions Tillerson Ouster From State Dept., to Be Replaced by Pompeo, Within Weeks nyti.ms/2kcg45oThe last voice of reason will soon be gone. Everyone prep their fall out shelters? |
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Post by athn64 on Nov 30, 2017 9:15:37 GMT -6
That took longer than I expected tbh |
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Post by justkeepmoving on Nov 30, 2017 9:18:07 GMT -6
I’m getting to point of not even being angry anymore. The Dems are in the minority, the GOP is soulless.
I’m feeling like I’m drowning now. I feel powerless. I feel like my life will be screwed along with my family’s with these GOP plans and there’s nothing to stop them.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Nov 30, 2017 9:19:02 GMT -6
White House Envisions Tillerson Ouster From State Dept., to Be Replaced by Pompeo, Within Weeks nyti.ms/2kcg45oHere we go... Do you have any meetings this week? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 9:21:16 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 9:23:11 GMT -6
Well I called the DOE and they said that they expect that people who are currently enrolled in public service loan forgiveness to be grandfathered in. I certainly hope they are right. I know that there are a lot of people who really can't pay off these loans and plan a future because their loans are so high. I was lucky to get a lot of aid and a lot of help and go to college 15 years ago when it didn't cost 25k to go to a state school. Ugh. It's just so disgusting to me to gut education. I don't even understand why that is on the table.
ETA I was on the phone for an hour trying to figure this out and get to a human. Clearly I was not the only one concerned. And likely they are understaffed there as it is. I am spiraling with my anger now I should probably release it.
ETA 2 one last thing pretty much everyone I know who has enrolled in this program has done so with the fear that it wouldn't last long enough for them to actually benefit from it. Just like this longevity benefit we have in our district because everyone says "take it as soon as you are eligible since who knows if it will be negotiated out of the contract." I just can't even with this. It just seems like everything that we are promised that is supposed to help and make our lives easier is taken away...and I teach in a liberal state in an suburb and I know that so many other teachers have it so much worse.
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Post by enchanted on Nov 30, 2017 9:25:36 GMT -6
The screwing grad students is also a hot topic here. If this had happened when my husband was in school, he would have had to drop out or drop down to part time and get a job which isn't really doable for a lot of fields. I was already working two and three jobs. I would have to take another just to make up for his tax bill. As it stands, he works at a university (but not as a professor) and he could lose the students who work for him if they can't get loans or if their visas aren't renewed. I worked at a university for more than a decade and the culture is that to compete the private universities are not looking at it as a educational institution anymore. They look at it as a business. They fired staff, reorganized all the departments, got rid of 90% of adjunct professors and started charging more for basic services. Not to mention changing food distribution around to a $ based system instead of a points based system. They were preparing for it. Not to mention since I started there the tuition rode over 600%. I worked at a place that the wealthy sent a good number of their kids but even so those who can't afford that and have FAFSA it means they are locked in to owing money for LIFE. And the University degree is becoming useless now. There is no need to be a "well rounded student". People are better off going to a not yet shut down community college and then learning a trade or just straight learning a trade. They have more opportunity to find job and will make more. Which leads me to then think that is what the tax plan wants. For us lower income people to "stay in our lane". Stay in your lane, stay stupid, and keep voting for the GOP and against your own interests. |
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2017 9:26:48 GMT -6
He's tweeted in the last half hour about this tax plan and more "radical terrorism" stuff about England. This on top of the things he posted earlier today. This makes me ashamed to be an American and absolutely disgusted by anyone I know who continues to support him. I can not engage with any of them in a civil conversation. Yep. My Republicans in-laws are coming this weekend. Should be fun. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 9:29:25 GMT -6
This makes me ashamed to be an American and absolutely disgusted by anyone I know who continues to support him. I can not engage with any of them in a civil conversation. Yep. My Republicans in-laws are coming this weekend. Should be fun. I just don't even see how anyone could dare to be a Republican in dc2london's house. They should probably run for cover |
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2017 9:29:44 GMT -6
Random thought - so many of the people I know who voted for Trump say their vote is justified by the fact that the stock market has been going "gangbusters" since Trump took office. As if that somehow excuses everything or means that he is doing a good job as President. The thing is - none of them work in finance/investment...I do. Most of my colleagues in the investment sector believe the market is in a bubble and there will be a significant correction (as in crash/downturn) in the next 12-24 months. I personally am thinking 18 months at the longest. The P/E ratios are too high and there is generally too much risk taking going on. www.cnbc.com/2017/11/27/chance-of-us-stock-market-correction-now-at-70-percent-vanguard.htmlWhile I definitely do not look forward to market downturns, once the correction happens I'm going to be happy to bring the point back up to people I know who voted for Trump -- asking them why they continue to support a President who is causing the stock market to crash. ETA - There seems to be so little to look forward to in terms of current events. This is honestly one of the few things that I'm hanging on to. Which is sad, because it includes a market crash ☹️ THANK YOU. |
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Post by enchanted on Nov 30, 2017 9:29:57 GMT -6
I’m getting to point of not even being angry anymore. The Dems are in the minority, the GOP is soulless. I’m feeling like I’m drowning now. I feel powerless. I feel like my life will be screwed along with my family’s with these GOP plans and there’s nothing to stop them. Yep. I need a recharge. Something good if I'm going to keep fighting. I thought the high from election day would last longer, but the devastation this tax bill is going to cause the 85 percent of Americans who make below $75,000, CHIP still not being funded, Puerto Rico not even being in the news anymore, the bigotry raging unchecked along with Hatch Act violations, and the GOP just refusing to actually help anyone outside of a uterus has wiped that right out. |
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2017 9:32:25 GMT -6
Fuck Scott Walker
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2017 9:35:20 GMT -6
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So I'm team pull him out of school 
