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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:26:35 GMT -6
Twitter doesnt know how many Clinton/Kaine voters were duped with that picture. (hopefully not many)
Twitter took them down as soon as they were aware and 10x of tweets were stating it was false the the twitterverse was basically self policing. I'm not defending a lack of action but that is what needs to happen. People need to call out false information when they see it.
Also this brings to mind that we need to teach children how to vote
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:27:23 GMT -6
FRANKENTEEEEEIIIIIIIIMMMMEEEEE
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:28:20 GMT -6
While I think that SM need to be held to the same standards in advertising as TV/Radio. I think we need to teach people especially kids at this point, critical thinking and being able to research things and not take everything on SM at face value. We cant just expect FB, Google, Twitter or whatever iteration comes after to be the keeper. I completely agree, and it's something I'm already working to teach my children. But what do we do about t he vast numbers of American adults who don't question anything?I dont know, and I dont think we can honestly. Some people have zero desire to know anything beyond their sphere. And we can't help them. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:29:09 GMT -6
Franken wants to know how come really smart people at FB didnt make the connection that ad paid for in rubles were russian.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:29:34 GMT -6
Franken: How the hell did you guys not realize that you were getting paid in RUBELS because it was a Russian effort?!
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:31:58 GMT -6
"Google has all knowledge that man has ever developed--you can't put together Rubels with a political ad and go, 'Hm, those two data points spell out something bad?"
We should have been alert to this, in hindsight.
Will Facebook commit to not accepting payment in foreign currency in the future?
"Our goal is to require all political advertisers, regardless of currency, to provide documentation that they're authorized to advertise."
"Please answer 'yes' or 'no,' sir, I'm asking you a question, just answer yes or no, can you do that?? You're a sophisticated guy, you're the legal counsel for FACEBOOK"
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:32:34 GMT -6
"Senator, our goal is to address--"
Franken: "My goal is for you to think through this stuff a little better."
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:33:29 GMT -6
Senator Hirono wants to talk about bullying.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:38:01 GMT -6
FB has 150 people to address content thats terror related Google says they have thousands Fb comes back with oh we have thousands as well.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:38:30 GMT -6
she didn't take that in the direction I hoped she would,but I think she got sidelined by Facebook's incompetence
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:38:58 GMT -6
FB and google were answering for different things
FB terror specific Google we have many properties and thousands looking at all content.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:42:59 GMT -6
RT is on youtube. Is google paying them ad revenue?
Not exactly sure but he's sure that there is some renumeration.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:48:39 GMT -6
Yeeesh. They took down the YouTube video that the Manchester bomber used to learn how to make a bomb, but then the video went back up shortly thereafter.
Google's approach to that is to take action against the account, and to create a "digital fingerprint" of such videos so that they can't be uploaded again
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:49:07 GMT -6
LOL, Senator Graham: Tell me what you learned today
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:50:04 GMT -6
Franken wants to know how come really smart people at FB didnt make the connection that ad paid for in rubles were russian. That's actually pretty obvious. Because FB sells legitimate ads in Russia and/or to Russian entities all the time. And FB ad buying is an automated process. There's no one hand reviewing each and every ad. Well Twitter doesnt take rubles LOL
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:50:24 GMT -6
more Franken:
Will you not take foreign political ads paid for my foreign money?
Twitter: "yes"
Google: maybe?
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:52:53 GMT -6
Franken wants to know how come really smart people at FB didnt make the connection that ad paid for in rubles were russian. That's actually pretty obvious. Because FB sells legitimate ads in Russia and/or to Russian entities all the time. And FB ad buying is an automated process. There's no one hand reviewing each and every ad. But if its an ad for American political what ever and its being paid for in rubles it should send a signal.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:53:40 GMT -6
Franken: How the hell did "Jew hating" become a category of interests on Facebook?
Stretch: It's unacceptable. We don't know whether those Interest Categories were used, but we want to make sure that the Interest Categories that advertisers use to target their audiences are not so egregious
Facebook does not, however, know how much revenue was generated by the use of pejorative interest categories to target advertisements
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 14:54:06 GMT -6
Senator Kennedy's turn is my cue to go make my kids dinner
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 14:56:42 GMT -6
FB states they cant target depressed teens
Kennedy brings receipts inc a memo put out by FB stating they could micro target.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 15:00:53 GMT -6
oh man! Clint Watts is on the second panel. I need to watch this but dudes it's Halloween and I have kids.
I love Clint Watts though
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 31, 2017 15:02:47 GMT -6
oh man! Clint Watts is on the second panel. I need to watch this but dudes it's Halloween and I have kids. I love Clint Watts though He looks like Jeff Goldblum
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 15:06:34 GMT -6
Watts: eliminating bad actors from social media has been too reactive, it needs to be proactive.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 31, 2017 15:07:35 GMT -6
I actually don't agree with him that a credibility rating system will do much. These people believe that the media, Snopes, and SCIENCE are all lies and conspiracies and that only Alex Jones is to be believed. They're going to suddenly believe Facebook in telling them who is a realiable source of news?
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Post by dc2london on Nov 1, 2017 7:14:52 GMT -6
They're back on the Hill today. This morning with Senate Intel and this afternoon with HPSCI. I'll be here as my children allow.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 1, 2017 7:18:04 GMT -6
Here's the SSCI membership for anyone interested. www.intelligence.senate.govSenators Wyden and Harris are excellent at questioning witnesses so watch them, in particular. And Mark Warner, the ranking Democrat, is an ex tech CEO so he knows these guys and their work. If I'm not mistaken, he actually went out to Silicon valley to meet with Facebook earlier this year. His questions are likely to be particularly well-informed.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 1, 2017 7:40:35 GMT -6
Not impressed with Chairman But right now
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Post by dc2london on Nov 1, 2017 7:45:16 GMT -6
Chairman Burr. DYAC
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Post by dc2london on Nov 1, 2017 7:56:37 GMT -6
Senator Warner: "We all need to take a more concerted approach to what we are reading and sharing online"
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Post by dc2london on Nov 1, 2017 7:57:40 GMT -6
Warner straight up called out POTUS by name for acting to delegitimize the media and denying Russia's efforts
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