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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 30, 2017 3:18:25 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 30, 2017 3:34:14 GMT -6
Also to clarify my big issues are that:
Spacey manages to link homosexuality with pedophilia in the minds of the general populace with his I'll timed announcement.
Feels like media is white knighting him like whoa.
People saying he isn't a pedophile because he didn't have the intent. Sorry but 1)alcohol doesn't mitigate intent and 2) he invited a 14 year old to a club and a private party at his home. He did that sober and knew that was inappropriate.
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Post by crunch on Oct 30, 2017 4:43:13 GMT -6
His apology is complete bullshit (which any apology would be because Anthony was A CHILD). I hate that part of it was coming out and for the terrible people out there it “confirms” their connection between being gay and pedophilia.
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Post by ilovelamp on Oct 30, 2017 8:12:55 GMT -6
Man, he must have felt really creeped out watching him in American Beauty.
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Post by lucilleaustero on Oct 30, 2017 8:37:14 GMT -6
Spacey is a friend of Jeff Epstein, so this is not shocking.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 30, 2017 13:40:05 GMT -6
I find the whole thing odd if I am being honest.
The timing of the revelation, the odd ass apology. I think there is more to it than just this.
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 30, 2017 13:44:25 GMT -6
I find the whole thing odd if I am being honest. The timing of the revelation, the odd ass apology. I think there is more to it than just this. I agree. The whole way he went about it is.. off.
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Post by normadix on Oct 30, 2017 14:29:53 GMT -6
Netflix has cancelled House of Cards
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Post by cakewench on Oct 30, 2017 14:42:20 GMT -6
Netflix has cancelled House of Cards Sort of, and not because of this - it will end after the next season (6), and Netflix reps confirm this decision was made months ago. (Though I'm sure the news sped up the announcement.)
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Post by lucilleaustero on Oct 30, 2017 14:48:49 GMT -6
I find the whole thing odd if I am being honest. The timing of the revelation, the odd ass apology. I think there is more to it than just this. Yup. Totally agree.
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Post by sarah on Oct 30, 2017 14:50:23 GMT -6
There have been rumors about him being a creep for years
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Post by cakewench on Oct 30, 2017 15:13:10 GMT -6
BTW please don't think my post above is in any way a defense of Spacey or suggesting HoC shouldn't be affected in some way by Anthony Rapp's allegations. FWIW, I believe Anthony and think Spacey's apology was terrible. I absolutely think if Netflix/HoC's producers hadn't already decided to end the show, they should have severed ties with him anyway.
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Post by Bluebird on Oct 30, 2017 15:38:56 GMT -6
I felt his apology was very dismissive and odd. I met Kenvin spacey once and he was super nice, so I’m feeling especially disappointed.
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Post by longhornwino on Oct 30, 2017 15:48:39 GMT -6
One thing I find particularly disgusting is that his decision to come out alongside his apology now detracts from the real issue. The headlines won't be "Anthony Rapp Accuses Kevin Spacey of Sexual Assualt;" many of the headlines will be "Kevin Spacey Comes Out" with little to no mention of the allegations against him.
Of course, his announcement was very calculated to do exactly that. I recognize that. Which is why I find it so disgusting.
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Post by enchanted on Oct 30, 2017 16:26:19 GMT -6
One thing I find particularly disgusting is that his decision to come out alongside his apology now detracts from the real issue. The headlines won't be "Anthony Rapp Accuses Kevin Spaces of Sexual Assualt;" many of the headlines will be "Kevin Spacey Comes Out" with little to no mention of the allegations against him. Of course, his announcement was very calculated to do exactly that. I recognize that. Which is why I find it so disgusting. Not only that, but now anti-gay and anti-trans people will use this as an example to prove gay/trans equals pedophile. I think his intent was sympathetic headlines and spin, but any moron should have been able to see that.
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Post by longhornwino on Oct 30, 2017 16:50:27 GMT -6
One thing I find particularly disgusting is that his decision to come out alongside his apology now detracts from the real issue. The headlines won't be "Anthony Rapp Accuses Kevin Spaces of Sexual Assualt;" many of the headlines will be "Kevin Spacey Comes Out" with little to no mention of the allegations against him. Of course, his announcement was very calculated to do exactly that. I recognize that. Which is why I find it so disgusting. Not only that, but now anti-gay and anti-trans people will use this as an example to prove gay/trans equals pedophile. I think his intent was sympathetic headlines and spin, but any moron should have been able to see that. Completely agree. This whole thing is just so appalling.
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Post by normadix on Oct 30, 2017 19:54:41 GMT -6
I am not finding the media to be focusing on his coming out. All the articles I've read are focusing on the assault and criticizing him for spinning it by coming out.
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Post by normadix on Oct 30, 2017 19:56:05 GMT -6
I also think this is the beginning of more allegations for celebrities. I mean, these are really powerful men that have been brought down now - Cosby, HW and now Spacey (who I don't think will recover from this). I hope the pedo ring will finally be uncovered and names are named.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 30, 2017 20:06:44 GMT -6
I'm just learning that people thought he was in! Mind blown.
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Post by mathlete on Oct 31, 2017 5:04:25 GMT -6
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Post by cakewench on Oct 31, 2017 12:12:27 GMT -6
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Post by lucilleaustero on Oct 31, 2017 12:31:43 GMT -6
One thing I find particularly disgusting is that his decision to come out alongside his apology now detracts from the real issue. The headlines won't be "Anthony Rapp Accuses Kevin Spaces of Sexual Assualt;" many of the headlines will be "Kevin Spacey Comes Out" with little to no mention of the allegations against him. Of course, his announcement was very calculated to do exactly that. I recognize that. Which is why I find it so disgusting. Not only that, but now anti-gay and anti-trans people will use this as an example to prove gay/trans equals pedophile. I think his intent was sympathetic headlines and spin, but any moron should have been able to see that.Well...therein lies the problem.
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Post by Nonniedee on Nov 1, 2017 11:06:21 GMT -6
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Post by cakewench on Nov 2, 2017 17:40:39 GMT -6
Reports of sexual harassment on set of HoC:
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Post by ArielMermaid on Nov 3, 2017 7:24:21 GMT -6
Apparently Spacey's agency and publicist have dropped him. Which into me is like, why? As if they didn't know what was happening. Don't act like this is a surprise.
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Post by enchanted on Nov 6, 2017 16:36:20 GMT -6
I saw some headline that he won't be in the last season of HoC. Good.
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Post by tgrimes on Nov 7, 2017 9:44:30 GMT -6
I saw some headline that he won't be in the last season of HoC. Good. Think they'll assassinate him or replace him?
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Post by enchanted on Nov 7, 2017 9:46:16 GMT -6
I saw some headline that he won't be in the last season of HoC. Good. Think they'll assassinate him or replace him? I don't watch it so I don't know what would fit best.
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Post by cakewench on Nov 7, 2017 10:17:04 GMT -6
I saw some headline that he won't be in the last season of HoC. Good. Think they'll assassinate him or replace him? He's already been shot, so I doubt assassination, and it would be out of character for a suicide. They'll probably do an episode or two referring to him doing stuff off camera, and then someone will walk into a room and yell for help because he's had a heart attack or something. Like they did with John Spencer in WW.
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Post by tgrimes on Nov 7, 2017 10:27:36 GMT -6
Think they'll assassinate him or replace him? He's already been shot, so I doubt assassination, and it would be out of character for a suicide. They'll probably do an episode or two referring to him doing stuff off camera, and then someone will walk into a room and yell for help because he's had a heart attack or something. Like they did with John Spencer in WW. It's been awhile since I watched the last episode. Isn't he going to prison? Maybe someone can strangle him in there...
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