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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 21, 2017 17:10:33 GMT -6
Is the week over yet? Mh just texted me that he may have to be at work all night. I think I'm going to spend my calories on wine. I need to make a sleep thread. I realized that K has cried herself to sleep practically every night for the last 6 months. This can't be normal right? Is she still napping? Could a later bedtime be appropriate? DS still naps for 1.5-2 hours and is in bed by 8:15 (he's 2.5, wakes up around 7am). I want to say we bumped it back around his 2nd birthday because he just cried and didn't go to sleep until around then for a couple weeks. She naps from 1pm to 3pm and is rubbing her eyes by 7pm. Bedtime is between 7:30 and 8pm. She won't cry if I'm in the room, but as soon as I leave her world ends. I mostly leave her be unless she's hysterical or she drops her binkie out of the crib. She wakes every night 1.5-2 hours after she falls asleep and has been doing that since she was a newborn. We'll try a later bedtime this weekend and see if that helps. I'm willing to try anything at this point. The crying/whining night after night is mentally exhausting.
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Post by grumpycat on Sept 21, 2017 17:22:37 GMT -6
sheilathetank we've also tried using a favorite stuffed animal "kitty is really sleepy. Can you help kitty go to sleep?" Or will give ds a book to read to kitty or whatever. It works about half the time, usually when we know he's really tired but just being resistant. I hope the slightly later bedtime helps!
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 21, 2017 17:31:53 GMT -6
sheilathetank we've also tried using a favorite stuffed animal "kitty is really sleepy. Can you help kitty go to sleep?" Or will give ds a book to read to kitty or whatever. It works about half the time, usually when we know he's really tired but just being resistant. I hope the slightly later bedtime helps! She has cookie monster that she sleeps with. That's a good idea. I'm always hesitant because I never know how much she understands. I think I underestimate her understanding.
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Post by Taitai on Sept 21, 2017 21:44:13 GMT -6
sheilathetank Like was for commiseration. Not sure if this is good advice or not, but we found that DS was napping too long during the day and that was causing him to have trouble falling asleep. He's 2.5 and we now limit his afternoon nap to 1 hr (1:30 - 2:30pm). I have read sites that say you're not supposed to do this, but it has worked for us. Before, DS was taking marathon 2-2.5 hour naps during the day and then not wanting to go to bed at 7:30 or 8pm. He was also waking up like every 2-3 hours, AND getting up for the day at like 5:30 or 6am. Since cutting his nap to only 1 hr, he now goes down between 7:30 and 8pm, gets up once MOTN for like 2 min to pee (we don't do diapers ever anymore), and then wakes up for the day around 6:30 or 7am. Good luck figuring this out! Kid sleep is hard.
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 22, 2017 8:22:31 GMT -6
The cookie monster being sleepy thing didn't work. She just threw it. Taitai, her naps are set by DC so I don't think I could reduce them. The entire DC does quiet/nap time from 1-3 and she sleeps the entire time without a fuss. I just told them that I'm going to need her to sleep there at night too. lol. In other news, last night we got a letter from MH's work that they are giving all their employees 5 Paid family leave days. This may not sound like a lot, but it is an enormous step. I almost cried when I read it. I'm this close to writing the President of the company and thanking him but I don't want to look like a crazy person.
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Post by swivelchair5 on Sept 22, 2017 8:25:18 GMT -6
sheilathetank, I don't think crying herself to sleep is necessarily problematic. It sounds mean, but for my daughter, I know sometimes crying just helps her wind down. DD cries herself to sleep occasionally. I think it is happening less as she is getting older. It is tough to listen to, but if she is sitting or lying down and quietly crying/snuffling, I know she will be out in a couple minutes. On the other hand, if she is standing in her crib, scream-sobbing and stamping her feet, I go in and settle her down. I hope adjusting bedtime or nap schedules leads to a more peaceful process.
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 22, 2017 8:28:51 GMT -6
sheilathetank , I don't think crying herself to sleep is necessarily problematic. It sounds mean, but for my daughter, I know sometimes crying just helps her wind down. DD cries herself to sleep occasionally. I think it is happening less as she is getting older. It is tough to listen to, but if she is sitting or lying down and quietly crying/snuffling, I know she will be out in a couple minutes. On the other hand, if she is standing in her crib, scream-sobbing and stamping her feet, I go in and settle her down. I hope adjusting bedtime or nap schedules leads to a more peaceful process. The crying for mommy is what kills me. It's a total weakness of mine. She just yanks on those heartstrings and I fold. If she would settle and sleep if I rocked her I would do that no problem, but she can't get comfortable and just works herself back up. That or she starts naming all my body parts or likes to stick her fingers in my mouth and feel my teeth. That sounds a lot weirder when I type it out. lol.
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Post by swivelchair5 on Sept 22, 2017 9:26:26 GMT -6
sheilathetank , I don't think crying herself to sleep is necessarily problematic. It sounds mean, but for my daughter, I know sometimes crying just helps her wind down. DD cries herself to sleep occasionally. I think it is happening less as she is getting older. It is tough to listen to, but if she is sitting or lying down and quietly crying/snuffling, I know she will be out in a couple minutes. On the other hand, if she is standing in her crib, scream-sobbing and stamping her feet, I go in and settle her down. I hope adjusting bedtime or nap schedules leads to a more peaceful process. The crying for mommy is what kills me. It's a total weakness of mine. She just yanks on those heartstrings and I fold. If she would settle and sleep if I rocked her I would do that no problem, but she can't get comfortable and just works herself back up. That or she starts naming all my body parts or likes to stick her fingers in my mouth and feel my teeth. That sounds a lot weirder when I type it out. lol. There was nothing weird in that statement. And I get it. It took some trial and error to learn that when she is upset at bedtime, seeing me just makes it worse and drags it out longer. Totally kid specific though.
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Post by billyhorrible on Sept 22, 2017 12:00:34 GMT -6
sheilathetank - 2 thoughts 1) I would go earlier for bed, not later. If she's rubbing her eyes by 7, I'd have her in bed by 6:45. Sleep windows are funny things, and if you miss them, kids get overtired, more emotional/crying, and find it harder to go to sleep. 6:45 may sound really early, but it'll get later as she gets older. 2)I don't do crying to sleep. At least for my kids, it made bedtime take longer. But we have a rule, I'll only stay in the room (Or DH) if they are actively trying to fall asleep. No talking, no kicking feet around, just lying with eyes closed in their beds. It's worked for both of my boys, although with BH it can still take him over an hour to fall asleep (which i do not get. No way I can stay awake in bed with my eyes closed in a dark room and LBB would fall asleep in less than 5 minutes that way.) At 3, LBB didn't even need us to stay anymore. We definitely put in our time with sleep, but BH still naps, LBB napped until he started kindergarten last month, and both boys happily trot off to bed at bedtime, no fighting, crying, or negotiating.
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Post by billyhorrible on Sept 22, 2017 12:06:32 GMT -6
It's a weird Friday for me since we were off yesterday for Rosh Hashanna. But we had such a nice day as a family. I baked challah with the boys in the morning, synagogue in the afternoon. And BH loves our Rabbi. He couldn't take his eyes off him.
I went to volunteer with LBB's class this morning and his teacher handed me an envelope. LBB is one of 5 kindergarten students selected to receive an award next week for being a positive role model. So the week is ending as well as it began!
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 22, 2017 12:55:16 GMT -6
billyhorrible, congratulations to LBB for the award! I would move K's bedtime up if we weren't barely making 7:30 bedtime as it is. When it's just her and I, I start bedtime around 6:45. But MH doesn't get home until 6:15 most days so by the time we eat and do bath, we are pushing close to 7:30pm. He would never see her otherwise.
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Post by jewel on Sept 22, 2017 13:18:40 GMT -6
It's a weird Friday for me since we were off yesterday for Rosh Hashanna. But we had such a nice day as a family. I baked challah with the boys in the morning, synagogue in the afternoon. And BH loves our Rabbi. He couldn't take his eyes off him. I went to volunteer with LBB's class this morning and his teacher handed me an envelope. LBB is one of 5 kindergarten students selected to receive an award next week for being a positive role model. So the week is ending as well as it began! Shana tova! LO's favorite part of services this year was the screen saver that was on the screen (they put up the words to all they prayers and songs at the tot service) when we got there. She literally stood in front of us shouting "bubbles!" At the top of her lungs for 10 minutes. Lol! Congrats to your LO!
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Post by billyhorrible on Sept 22, 2017 13:30:50 GMT -6
sheilathetank - bedtimes are tough with working parents. I totally get that. And we do dinner as a family too, so I'm with you. Does she cry less on those earlier nights? I'm guessing she doesn't, or you would have mentioned it. Which means even if everyone was home and fed by 6, my earlier idea isn't the answer.
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Post by Taitai on Sept 22, 2017 21:08:13 GMT -6
billyhorrible Congrats on LBB's award - that is awesome news. You must be so proud. Happy belated Rosh Hashanna too! I miss challah so much - it's impossible to get out here and baking for us is always hit or miss (the ingredients just aren't the same). Glad to hear you had a nice day with family 😀.
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Post by lildiamondeyes on Sept 23, 2017 9:56:33 GMT -6
I think Pting was a success! A is running to the bathroom without reminders most of the time. I can do with out the poopy butt print on the wall though. Like how does that happen?!?
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Post by lildiamondeyes on Sept 23, 2017 9:58:39 GMT -6
sheilathetank, Sorry I am coming in late to this, but is there any change if Yh does bedtime? Is that even possible with his schedule? The girls always seem to go to bed easier and with less whining when Dh does the routine. Also with MOTN wake ups, he started going instead of me and within a week, the girls were nothing waking up MOTN.
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Post by letthewookieewin on Sept 23, 2017 10:26:21 GMT -6
I think Pting was a success! A is running to the bathroom without reminders most of the time. I can do with out the poopy butt print on the wall though. Like how does that happen?!? Hooray! For the potty training, not the butt print. DS has started fighting potty trips, so I'm starting to feel like it'll never happen here. He'll be out of diapers by kindergarten, right?
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Post by Bluebird on Sept 23, 2017 12:45:59 GMT -6
Taitai, I made shrimp fried rice last night and DS loved it! Glad to have something else to loop into the rotation. He even loved the "shimp" and asked for seconds.
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Post by Taitai on Sept 23, 2017 17:34:14 GMT -6
Taitai, I made shrimp fried rice last night and DS loved it! Glad to have something else to loop into the rotation. He even loved the "shimp" and asked for seconds. Yay! That's great news! I wish my DS would eat shrimp...it is the one meat he absolutely will not do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Taitai on Sept 23, 2017 17:39:17 GMT -6
Our weekend has been going well. DS was in kind of a cranky mood this week, but then he was really sweet and cute yesterday. I just wish he could always be in the sweet/cute mood.
Lately he's been really into his duplo legos, but sometimes gets so upset when he can't figure out how to put them together. Cue meltdown over silly legos. I'm trying to get him to not get to a 10 if he can't figure it out...toddler problems.
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Post by littlelion on Sept 25, 2017 11:22:42 GMT -6
sheilathetank,Wanted to share our experience, you are not alone! Naptime and bedtime for L was stressful from 18 mo-28 mo. He fought it hard. I do recall him getting frustrated and crying which helped calm him down enough to try to get to sleep. Otherwise, we had our routines, story and singing in the bed was the end of it. For a while he liked putting his hand down my shirt, it was a comfort thing. I used to give up naptime after an hour because I couldn't take the stress of it. He's much better these days. 20 min max. And now that he understands, I'll promise stuff. Like, take a nap and later we'll go to the park. Last night he asked to go to a birthday party with bouncy house. And lo and behold, he remembered this morning. LOL. I thought DC drop off was gonna suck hard. But lucky enough, his classmate was arriving at the same time with birthday cupcakes... I'm trying to straighten out our sleeping arrangements so that he and the baby are close enough so he feels like he's not alone. Also, he's gotten in the habit of asking for a back "rub", very light touch. His dad likes that too to fall asleep and looks like baby is following the same. SMH, little divas.
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 28, 2017 6:27:36 GMT -6
Sorry to disappear. I needed a break. Between the lack of sleep, MH working a bajillion hours so he's barely home, K not sleeping well, and my work being mentally exhausting, I just didn't have the mental energy to engage other than tit a few things.
Thank you all for the advice. We tried going to bed later on friday night and that... did not help. On Saturday she woke up with green slime oozing out of her nose so all attempts to change the routine went out the window. She also had what I thought was a teething rash which morphed into a yeast rash. But after a few days of using the yeast cream I had leftover from the last time she had a yeast rash, it has not been getting better. Her pedi appointment is today, so I thought I was good to hold out until then, but then she woke up with spots around her mouth. So now I'm praying to all the gods ever that it is not a. HFM or b. staph infection.
In other news the fall festival in town is this weekend and I may be going with just K and I. I'm probably insane. Has anyone ever done a festival with a rambunctious toddler solo?
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Post by Taitai on Sept 28, 2017 8:12:43 GMT -6
sheilathetank Sorry to hear that K hasn't been feeling well. I hope the spots are nothing and go away quickly! In terms of the festival - I have no experience with that type of thing (due to the whole bedrest/modified bedrest thing the past 7 friggin months), but I think it sounds like fun!!! I'd probably go for it and if it's too much - you can always leave. Let us know how it goes!
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Post by billyhorrible on Sept 28, 2017 9:40:16 GMT -6
sheilathetank - my fingers and toes are crossed that when she's feeling better she'll (and you'll) sleep better. I was going to tell you that you should go ahead and do the festival, what's the worst that could happen? Then i remembered your 4th of July. So... I'd probably stay home...😉
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 28, 2017 9:44:27 GMT -6
sheilathetank - my fingers and toes are crossed that when she's feeling better she'll (and you'll) sleep better. I was going to tell you that you should go ahead and do the festival, what's the worst that could happen? Then i remembered your 4th of July. So... I'd probably stay home...😉 If I do go I will stay well away from anything that glows. lol. Seriously though, I think I convinced my friend to go with me. But mh was with me for the fireworks on the fourth and well... we all know how that turned out.
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 29, 2017 6:31:08 GMT -6
Dr. Says the spot on her chin looks like HFM but she has no other spots and no other symptoms, so it's watch and wait. The rash is definitely a bacterial infections of some kind, probably impetigo. We got a topical antibiotic to use for a week and if there is no improvement we will try something more aggressive. We are also going to treat the spot on her chin with the antibiotic in case it is related. I sent her to DC and didn't say the words HFM or impetigo. She's had this all week and if there was any exposure it already happened. This is probably flame worthy but the Dr. Didn't say anything about keeping her away from other kids.
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Post by teraiin on Sept 29, 2017 7:37:35 GMT -6
I think I just need someone to tag me and remind me to check in here because I forget about this place and I love you guys. ❤️
I blame pregnancy. Everything.
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Post by Taitai on Sept 29, 2017 7:52:21 GMT -6
I think I just need someone to tag me and remind me to check in here because I forget about this place and I love you guys. ❤️ I blame pregnancy. Everything. My tapa notifications haven't been working lately, so I forget to come here too! I'm going to make more of an effort though. Hitting the last month of my pregnancy has been kind of distracting, but I miss talking about toddler stuff!
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 29, 2017 9:18:24 GMT -6
I was thinking of posting a Question of the Week Thread to give us something more to talk about. Doesn't have to be kid related. And yeah, I also have to be better about posting here.
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Post by sheilathetank on Sept 29, 2017 9:18:55 GMT -6
teraiin, how's the pregnancy going?
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