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Post by holachica on Oct 6, 2017 13:39:09 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't think this final drama was about the shirt. Her initial design was like Margarita's, but changed it. I think Michael's banana republic comment was on purpose and the pants were the main issue he was upset with the win. Claire has those pants, basically, and took the pants measurements in secret and made a replica.
Personally, I think Kentaro's look blew everyone out of the water and I'm annoyed he didn't win.
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Post by northernlghts on Oct 6, 2017 14:29:29 GMT -6
Thank you! I couldnt figure out what cheating they were talking about. Glad to know I'm not the only one who thought the final product looked nothing like Margarita's so I don't call that cheating.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 14:33:12 GMT -6
Margarita won't throw people under the bus, but did in the model challenge? Hokay. She and Michael should have just said what they wanted to say instead of this passive aggressive bs.
Claire and Shaun's face off went as I would expect. Glad it did drag on as well, but I don't like they are carrying on the elimination to the next episode again.
Brandon's outfit was horrendous. How did that get through?!
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Post by icedcoffee on Oct 6, 2017 16:35:45 GMT -6
I just find it completely childish to bring so much drama to an elimination. There have been many times a shitty outfit won over a much better outfit. Personally, I think all the damn outfits this week sucked. I don't think any of them deserved 25k for what they created. They don't even care about the win, they're just mad because they didn't win the money. I could see if one of their outfits were spectacular, but no. And if they're that mad, freaking say it don't cause drama and walk out and do all this extra stuff.
Sorry for the rant but last night's episode pissed me off 🤣
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Post by robot on Oct 6, 2017 20:53:13 GMT -6
So what they’re saying is that Claire has a tape measure and is measuring her own clothes in secret? That wasn’t emphasized at all, I nearly missed it. I assume they’ll say it more clearly next episode but damn, another incomplete episode. That’s obnoxious. Margarita was completely OTT.
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Post by Notarobot on Oct 6, 2017 21:34:20 GMT -6
I feel like they are all just playing up the drama when the show used to be actually about the clothing and design. I suspect they just picked Claire because it would cause the most drama. You’re better than this PR! Be better.
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Post by sugarskull on Oct 6, 2017 22:25:13 GMT -6
So what they’re saying is that Claire has a tape measure and is measuring her own clothes in secret? That wasn’t emphasized at all, I nearly missed it. I assume they’ll say it more clearly next episode but damn, another incomplete episode. That’s obnoxious. Margarita was completely OTT. Yes, this is how I understood it as well. I don't think the cheating scandal is about Claire's top. Michael is upset that Claire was secretly measuring pants in her hotel room to copy the proportions or whatever. Essentially making it much easier for her to create nice looking pants. They discussed it in the scene with Michael & Margarita speaking in Spanish to each other.
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Post by sugarskull on Oct 6, 2017 22:26:26 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't think this final drama was about the shirt. Her initial design was like Margarita's, but changed it. I think Michael's banana republic comment was on purpose and the pants were the main issue he was upset with the win. Claire has those pants, basically, and took the pants measurements in secret and made a replica. Personally, I think Kentaro's look blew everyone out of the water and I'm annoyed he didn't win. Yes to all of this!! Loved Kentaro's once again. He should have won.
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Post by sugarskull on Oct 6, 2017 22:28:06 GMT -6
I did not like Brandon's AT ALL this week. Also Amy's. Ughh. Very disappointed by most of the designs this week. Except Kentaro.
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Post by sugarskull on Oct 6, 2017 22:29:19 GMT -6
I feel like they are all just playing up the drama when the show used to be actually about the clothing and design. I suspect they just picked Claire because it would cause the most drama. You’re better than this PR! Be better. Agree. They are definitely feeding into the twin drama. They knew everyone would be pissed if Claire one.
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Post by quinn on Oct 7, 2017 6:53:28 GMT -6
I'm so happy Shawn is gone. The martyrdom in the beginning And all the crying and shit. Come on! She's going home, not dying. Plus, Claire acting like she's so damn strong for being there without her sister 😒 you mean like every other person there?
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Post by quinn on Oct 7, 2017 6:54:20 GMT -6
I was so scared Tim was going to use his save on Shawn. I would have screamed at the tv
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Post by quinn on Oct 7, 2017 6:58:11 GMT -6
Kentaro's was cute but I didn't really like the pleated cape in the back. That's just my taste though. It was still done so well. He should've won. He's officially my favorite.
I thought Kenya's was really bad! It was not flattering at all and the colors were very childish
I think Michael and Margarita have a right to be pissed if Claire was cheating by measuring her clothes, cause that's pretty messed up. But come out with it! Don't act like you're being righteous by not throwing her under the bus but yet being overtly dramatic. It's annoying.
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Post by Notarobot on Oct 7, 2017 7:05:30 GMT -6
I was so scared Tim was going to use his save on Shawn. I would have screamed at the tv I WAS screaming at the TV that he better not use it on her. I think at least Tim is there for the designs.
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Post by icedcoffee on Oct 7, 2017 7:31:47 GMT -6
I'm confused about the measuring pants/cheating thing. I'm not saying it's okay if someone tells me the issue with it lol, but I guess I'm not fully understanding why that's so flammable. They all could do that if they wanted, correct? Was the woman the same size as her and that's why she's measuring her pants? Does that give her an advantage because no one else's model is the same size? Maybe I'm having a major case of the duhs but can someone clarify please 🤣
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Post by acarpediem on Oct 7, 2017 8:06:40 GMT -6
I was under the impression they were mad she copied a pair of pants she currently owned, like print and style.
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Post by icedcoffee on Oct 7, 2017 8:22:23 GMT -6
I was under the impression they were mad she copied a pair of pants she currently owned, like print and style. Well that makes more sense I suppose.... but I still think it's not as big a deal as they are making it to be. Have they never made any clothes that resembled anything they own? IDK I'm not trying to make it sound like I'm fighting for Claire (the twins annoyed me lol) but I think Margarita and Michael are just being bitter bettys and if anyone else had won and done the same thing, they wouldn't even mention it at all. Guess we will see what happens next week!!!!
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Post by acarpediem on Oct 7, 2017 8:31:22 GMT -6
I was under the impression they were mad she copied a pair of pants she currently owned, like print and style. Well that makes more sense I suppose.... but I still think it's not as big a deal as they are making it to be. Have they never made any clothes that resembled anything they own? IDK I'm not trying to make it sound like I'm fighting for Claire (the twins annoyed me lol) but I think Margarita and Michael are just being bitter bettys and if anyone else had won and done the same thing, they wouldn't even mention it at all. Guess we will see what happens next week!!!! I think they are also little bitter from the one challenge Shawn got top for that outfit she basically copied from the model and her own shirt. The twins seem to keep pushing the boundaries and getting away with it, like basically majorly helping each other. I also agree that Claire’s shirt looked nothing like Margarite’s dress in the end. The two of them should not of waited till judging to explode. Deal with your issues when they happen and stop stewing.
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Post by quinn on Oct 7, 2017 8:33:45 GMT -6
The way I took it was Claire literally measured every inch of a pair of pants she owned and made an exact identical pair.
If that's the case, she copied another designer's work.
Take my opinion with a grain of salt here cause I'm not a designer, but I would consider that cheating. If, thats not common to do in that type of work. It might be!? Idk
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Post by mathlete on Oct 7, 2017 9:01:55 GMT -6
I know there's rules about not using any patterns, which measuring and copying would be the same thing..
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Post by icedcoffee on Oct 7, 2017 9:51:27 GMT -6
The way I took it was Claire literally measured every inch of a pair of pants she owned and made an exact identical pair. If that's the case, she copied another designer's work. Take my opinion with a grain of salt here cause I'm not a designer, but I would consider that cheating. If, thats not common to do in that type of work. It might be!? Idk No that would be cheating. But I didn't see how that could happen when they had to make their own pattern for the challenge. Which would mean she already had it planned before they went in and found out about the challenge? I guess it just seems unlikely that it was to that extreme in this case. I agree with the above that her sister should have gotten some shit for using her and the models shirt 🤣 oh well we will see I guess
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Post by quinn on Oct 7, 2017 9:53:15 GMT -6
The way I took it was Claire literally measured every inch of a pair of pants she owned and made an exact identical pair. If that's the case, she copied another designer's work. Take my opinion with a grain of salt here cause I'm not a designer, but I would consider that cheating. If, thats not common to do in that type of work. It might be!? Idk No that would be cheating. But I didn't see how that could happen when they had to make their own pattern for the challenge. Which would mean she already had it planned before they went in and found out about the challenge? I guess it just seems unlikely that it was to that extreme in this case. I agree with the above that her sister should have gotten some shit for using her and the models shirt 🤣 oh well we will see I guess I believe she did it after the 1st day when they went back to the hotel.
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Post by icedcoffee on Oct 7, 2017 10:02:05 GMT -6
I will have to go back and watch. Because I thought they made their pattern on the first day after they found out about the challenge. Which is where my confusion is coming from I guess. They would have already started their pattern and stuff before they went back to hotel. She still could have copied the pants measurements but I don't see how she copied the pattern if she had already had to send it in. Unless when she heard about about the challenge she automatically thought of this plan and used what she could remember of the pattern then went back to get the measurements. I'm like at a 1 about this I promise lol I guess it just seems unlikely to me that anything is gonna come out of it based on what we saw
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Post by olenka on Oct 8, 2017 9:52:04 GMT -6
The shirt Claire ended up making was basically the same as what Shawn was wearing at the beginning of the episode, but with some pleating at the bottom. I don't think she has any original ideas, cheating aside.
I keep being so disappointed by Batani. She has such an amazing personal style.
Loved loved loved Kentaro's look. If he doesn't end up in the top 3 I will scream.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 9:59:27 GMT -6
olenka, my top 3 would be Kentaro, Michael, Kenya as of right now. Though I know the judges will definitely have Brandon in the top 3, unless he comes out with something really hideous. And I agree with Batani, her personal style completely outshines what she designs. I feel like she could skate into the top 3. The judges really have no critique or praise for her. It's weird.
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Post by mathlete on Oct 8, 2017 11:25:01 GMT -6
Speaking of "no critique or praise" I feel like Amy has been in the middle every single episode.
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Post by cakewench on Oct 10, 2017 10:06:40 GMT -6
Chiming in super late since I had family in town this weekend, but I basically have the same feelings about the episode. Glad the twin drama was over soon, I think Margarita was way OTT, and that while there were some similarities with the top at first, Claire changed it enough that it was totally different by the end. I think she will do better without her sister but she needs to start relying on her own instincts and not using everyone else's feedback as a crutch. (Not that asking for advice isn't OK, all the designers do it, but I feel like she takes it to a new level. Hopefully the longer she goes without Shawn the better she will get about it?) If what Margarita and Michael say about Claire measuring pants in her bedroom is true, I'm 99% sure that's against PR rules, since you aren't allowed to come in with patterns (I think you can make them on-site in the work room, but that's it). I find the second incomplete/To be continued episode in a row to be a bit much. I didn't realize how much the editing this season would bother me but this is like the third or fourth one where I feel like things are badly put together. quinn - I also was afraid Tim would use his save, but am SO GLAD he did not.
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Post by cakewench on Oct 12, 2017 19:15:15 GMT -6
OK so this has been super awkward and insane, but if Claire was breaking the rules, then this is deserved.
Oh of course Brandon still wins something... but I'm glad Batani gets to stay.
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Post by cakewench on Oct 12, 2017 19:43:21 GMT -6
It's like a completely different workroom without the twins there. The mood/atmosphere is like, so much lighter.
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Post by mathlete on Oct 12, 2017 20:10:59 GMT -6
Well in your 16th season you don't often get to say "that's never happened before... "
The obviously cast the twins for drama and they got it!
Did Brandon get $25,000 or just his print on a cup?
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