Hospital Arrangements - older kids, etc.

[bootsorhearts1]

Have we talked about this yet? 

We are trying to start making plans. Would love to hear what others are doing. 

Some things we're thinking about: 
1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night? 
2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night? 
3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home? 
4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)? 

[bootsorhearts1]

We had a slough(sp?) of issues with DS that I'd like to try to avoid this time around. Primarily - too many visitors at the hospital, too many at the same time and they just HUNG AROUND so I couldn't breastfeed or pump and they all wanted to feed the baby so he was getting stuffed full of formula anyway and wasn't hungry when I did get time to try and nurse. And because of my csection, it was tough for me to take care of him because getting out of bed was a struggle. And of course, there's no nursery anymore at our hospital, all the babies room-in. When DH wasn't there (which wasn't too often, but he liked to go home and shower there, feed the dogs, etc.) I relied on the nurses a lot to help with DS. They didn't seem thrilled about it but what the hell? It's hard to look after a newborn when you've just been sliced open. End rant.

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? I'm asking DH to stay with me the whole time. Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night? We'll probably have DS stay overnight at MIL/FIL's place. Which he's never done before, so we may try to have him stay there once or twice before then so he's familiar with it.
3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? We'd like to ask that people not overlap their visits (other than couples coming together) and that they only stay one hour each. But I don't know how to do that tactfully or without hurting feelings. Or when you get home? Last time people were pretty good about calling ahead and checking when it's ok to come vs. just showing up so I'm not too worried about that.
4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)? We are bringing our own lactation consultant for the first day in the hospital and maybe a few hours a day for the first week after that as we didn't find the hospital LCs to be particularly helpful or have much time for any given patient. I hope that helps. And DH said he will lay down the law about kicking people out when it's time for me to nurse or pump.

[mkrupar]

1. More than likely, yes he'll stay. Especially if we end up with a pre-term baby.

2. DD will stay woth my dad.

3. No limits I can think of. We don't have a bunch of people beating down the doors insisting they be I voted to visit. It will all depend on what happens with delivery really.

4. We only have DD, and she was 6 weeks early, so I don't really know what we would do differently if this is a nornal RCS.

[trinitrotoluene]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
I think at night it will just be me, baby, and nurses. We live 5 minutes from the hospital, and i think we will both sleep better with him gone.

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
My mom will be visiting us, and will hopefully be here by the time the baby comes to stay with DS plus DH will be going home.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
I have less family in the area this time since we have moved. I'm hoping that helps. Besides that, when the baby is hungry, I'm going to just start nursing, which will probably clear things out pretty quick.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
I wanted to take advantage of the nursery more, but the new hospital is baby friendly, so no such luck.

[parma986]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night? DH will stay overnight.  
2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night? She will be staying with my in-laws while I am in the hospital. She has stayed overnight at their house before and does well so it should work out. 
3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home? Last time we really only had our parents and a couple friends visit in the hospital. I work at the hospital I am delivering at so depending on what day I deliver, my co-workers will come see us. We didn't really have an issue once we got home, either, so we will see what happens.
4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)? DD was up screaming all night the 2nd night of her life, we got no sleep. Looking back, she just wanted to nurse, so if this happens again, DD2 can stay on the boob all night lol. My hospital rooms in, but I don't have a problem with that really. Also bringing more than one SwaddleMe- blanket swaddling didn't work with DD and I only brought one SwaddleMe which she pooped on during the second night.

[chitownsully]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night? Oh yes. DH will be there.
2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night? I'm mostly concerned about when I go into labor. My ILs live about 1.5 hours away (in traffic) and my parents are 3 hours away. I think I'm going to ask my nanny to be on-call to watch DD while someone gets here to be with her. Otherwise, either my parents or my ILs will be staying with DD and our dogs while we are at the hospital.
3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home? We limited hospital time to immediate family ONLY! Baby's grandparents, aunts and uncles. That's it. Friends and extended family can visit after we are home with sufficient notice. I don't care who I offend. Our baby, our house, our rules.
4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)? For us it worked out really well. The only thing I'd change is I'd sleep more at the hospital while we had visitors holding the baby. LOL

[rachydc]

OMG SO MUCH ANXIETY! Both of our parents live 4 hours away and our friends are basically all childless so I've been freaking out.

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
: I was about to type "of course he will" but now I'm like "shit, who else would watch DD overnight??"
2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
I DONT KNOW NOW!! My recovery room was SO small, I can't imagine DD staying with us. I need to think this out.
3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
I did last time, this time around I feel like more of a pro so I dont think I'll mind.
4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
I was induced last time (took exactly 48 hours!!), I'd like to avoid that at all costs this time. If it happens, it happens. At least I'll know what to expect haha.

[CoachTsWife]

bootsorhearts1, I'm shocked people asked to feed your baby in the hospital! I'm so angry they did that to you.

[mommabakes]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night? My husband will likely stay overnight with me.
2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night? My mom will come stay with the kids and dog at my house.
3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home? Not really. We haven't had a ton of visitors with either kid though so far.
4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?

[kinipela7]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?

Undecided. In a perfect world, he would stay with me and my parents will stay at our house with DD. My dad's health is a bit questionable (he is having another heart procedure on Tues) so I can't really rely on them too much if something were to happen with him. We do live 5 min from the hospital though so it will be easy for DH to go home if needed.

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?

She will be at home with someone!
I really want to keep her schedule the same as she will be starting preschool a month before baby is due and I don't want all these changes to be too hard on her.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?

Since it's flu season, our hospital has strict guidelines on visitors so we will just follow those.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?

Nope - we didn't have a lot of visitors last time and won't this time. Just have to make sure DD is being taken care of!

[thatgirlrachel]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
H will definitely be there with me overnight.
2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
We have DD who will be 22 months. She will go home with either my parents or H's parents at night - kind of playing that part by ear as both are willing to take her and live local.
3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
Not really. My family is very small and most of H's family waits until we get home to visit, so we aren't bombarded by guests (fortunately!).
4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
Not in regards to the hospital stay really. It's going to be tough to be away from DD so much, but that's just part of it I suppose.

[racegurl87]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
H got 0 sleep in the hospital after DD was born so we decided he'll come home to sleep at night. I figure that the nurses would help if I need anything.

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
DD will stay at home with my mom that way she's in a comfortable environment and H can help my mom with bedtime if he's here.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
God yes! I really don't want visitors at the hospital besides H (and our photographer that will be doing the pics after he's out). Once we're home I'd really like to limit the # of people coming over and really not until we're settled and I'm feeling okay.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
Get more breastfeeding help and start pumping asap.

[riverraine]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
Most likely, unless something goes awry with our plan for DS.

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
DS will stay with my mom while I'm in the hospital. He stays overnight with her at least monthly so he's super comfortable there. I'm a little worried about it being 2 nights and 2 days now that my stepdad is sick and my mom is also caring for him, so I'm trying to get a backup plan in place.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
In the hospital, just immediate family. Once we get home I'm cool with friends and extended family coming to visit.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
+1 to bringing my own swaddle blankets to the hospital. I feel like it will be less awkward to breastfeed in front of people this time since I know what I'm doing. Apply that to all aspects of newborn care -- last time I barely knew how to change a diaper!

[caitost21]

We have discussed this a little but really need to finalize.
1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
This really depends on what time I give birth. If it is in the morning, I'll probably encourage MH to head home to sleep and be with DS. if it is later in the day or evening, he will most definitely stay. No one else will be welcomed to stay with me lol

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
Grandma is set to come stay with DS. I should get a backup though just in case.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
Yes and yes. We didn't last time and I remember coming back from the OR to see my mother already there...I was so irritated with MH because he had called everyone and people were there or on there way. I've already made it clear to him that We won't be talking to anyone that first hour and just soaking up our time with baby. DS will be the first one to meet his sister/brother. That's not negotiable. while I wish we could get away with not telling anyone for a day or two, that just won't fly having to think of DS and with MH. I rather have people either visit baby at the hospital the next day or wait a few days after we get home. With DS, it was seriously a handful of people visiting every single day for two weeks.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
Ummm I really want to limit visitors all around. I felt like I was constantly entertaining those first few weeks. My mom may be living with us when this baby comes but besides her, I really want it to be just us that first week. I want to disconnect from the outside world as much as possible.

[bootsorhearts1]

trinitrotoluene, I like your attitude about nursing, I am going to borrow that! Don't like it? Simple, leave!
CoachTsWife, I know it. And in retrospect, I should have been more firm with them but I was so traumatized by that point there was no fight in me. This time I am asking DH and a good friend to help me with that nonsense, including making sure people don't overstay their welcome.

[danvers]

* I actually feel less sure about my answers this time around than I did with DD

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night? H will stay... maybe? He slept terrible last time. He did help when he could but because I nursed anytime the baby woke up; he was awake but not able to help a ton. I do appreciate not being "alone" but we live all of 5 minutes from the hospital and it might be better for him to get a full nights sleep before we bring a newborn home again.


2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night? Two colleagues from school have each said they'll stay with DD till my parents can get here, but they're 3.5 hrs away. My Inlaws only live an 1hr away but they won't stay the night, just stay till my parents get there.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home? Not really. We don't have a lot of family here so that wasn't an issue last time. We were worried about my SIL bring her kids (she's a pick-and-choose vaccine kind of person among a host of other craziness) but our hospital says no one under 18 that's not a sibling so it's really a non-issue. I did warn anyone who came they might see boobs so if they're uncomfortable they'll need to step out. It wasn't a huge issue though and everyone was really understanding.


4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)? I'm sending this baby to the nursery a lot more. I might even send the baby for an it when DD comes so it can just be me and her for awhile before it's me-her-baby sister. DD is a huge mommas girl who does not like me holding other babies or kids. She hated seeing me hooked up to monitors for the NST so not sure how she'll do with me in the hospital anyway.

[cougarette]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
Yes, he'll stay with me.


2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?

My parents will stay with DS at our house. They live about a mile from the hospital, so if he's with us when I go into labor we'll bring him there on the way. Otherwise, my parents will get him from daycare/come over if it's middle of the night.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?

I really, really want to. I hate my in-laws and my bitch MIL was awful when DS was born. She criticized us at every turn (as she does with everything about our lives) and was completely unsupportive. I told DH that I don't want them to visit for 2 weeks. He says that won't happen. I said well he can take over being pregnant then. Sigh. We'll see.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?

Get more help in the hospital with breastfeeding. Hopefully it'll all come back to me and this one will latch better. Also IF MIL is there (ugh), then have her not be there all. day. long. in. our. room.

[racegurl87]

cougarette is there a way you could talk to your nurses and tell them to come into your room and kick out guests after an hour or so saying that you need to rest? I feel like with your MIL there you won't be able to rest and heal as well.

[doodlemommy]

1. We are delivering at a birth centre and are only there for 3-4ish hours post birth. So special snowflake situation over here. He will stay that whole time obviously

2. DD (and the dog) will be with my parents. Depending on time of day we will either drop her off on our way to the birth centre or my parents will come to our house (if she's sleeping etc)

3. Since we are at the birth centre such a short time we are limiting to DD and my parents (possibly my sister), but even that depends. We may decide to wait for DD to meet baby once we are released. It really is going to depend on timing and how it all goes. My sister/BIL and my MIL/FIL will come visit at home (same day probably unless it's super late at night I guess). Out of DH's siblings I think only his one sister will come visit us at home and that will be 2-3 days post probably, that's what happened with DD anyways. We have some close friends and my one aunt/uncle/cousins who will likely visit in the early day(s) too. So we are sort of limiting the immediate visits but after that if people want to stop by our house we are flexible as long as they call/ask first

4. DD was our first so this time is a whole different ball game!

[cougarette]

Aug 9, 2017 19:37:53 GMT -6 racegurl87 said:

cougarette is there a way you could talk to your nurses and tell them to come into your room and kick out guests after an hour or so saying that you need to rest? I feel like with your MIL there you won't be able to rest and heal as well.

Great idea! I may need to do that!

[racegurl87]

Aug 9, 2017 20:09:55 GMT -6 cougarette said:

Aug 9, 2017 19:37:53 GMT -6 racegurl87 said:

cougarette is there a way you could talk to your nurses and tell them to come into your room and kick out guests after an hour or so saying that you need to rest? I feel like with your MIL there you won't be able to rest and heal as well.

Great idea! I may need to do that!

I've heard that some nurses don't mind being the "bad guy" and they like to make sure that patients are actually resting. It's worth a shot at least, especially if your MIL doesn't listen to you or H.

[arimaythea]

1/2. Still undecided. We live 5 mins from the hospital, next door to the in-laws (both of which are retired) and a few minutes from my parents. They have both watched DS but never overnight. DH also slept horribly when I had DS. Right now I am leaning toward having in-laws and my mom alternate watching during the day and bringing DS for visits, and have DH and DS sleep at home at night. It is hopefully only a few nights and I can power through on my own.

3. I had DH, MIL, mom, and sister in the delivery room when I had DS. FIL, dad, and BIL were in the waiting room. Depending on timing, I will probably ask in-laws to watch DS for delivery, and have my mom and DH with me.

As for after delivery, the only visitors we had were the in-laws, my parents/sister, and grandparents. They didn't overstay their welcome when they did come, so I don't anticipate issues this time either.

4. I got too hung up on the 2 hour windows for BFing with DS and it is one of my biggest regrets from the early days with him. I'll be boobs out whenever #2 fusses this time around. And if there is another tongue tie, making that appointment asap because that was another big BFing hurdle with DS. I also should try to sleep more during the day in the 2 weeks I have DH home with me.

[versed]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
**** DH will be there for the entire delivery, stay days, and then head home to be with the kids at night. With our first deliveries, the babies were born middle of the night, so in that case, he'll stay for delivery and then nap before heading home.

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
**** We will have a family member come to the house with the kiddos while I'm delivering. Family will continue watching the kids during the day, and DH will take over nights once baby arrives. I enjoyed the quiet of nights with just me and baby - the nurses were available for anything I needed.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
**** Just immediate family to the hospital (baby's siblings, grandparents, and aunts/uncles). It's the third kid, so I'm sure people won't be pounding down the doors to see him. Daytime visitors only, and most likely just close friends and family for the first few weeks.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
**** Not much - it worked out great with the last two deliveries with childcare and delivery.

[blackmamba]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?
While I'm in labor H will be with me and DS will be at home with family. Once the baby is here, it will depend on how I'm doing and how #2 is doing. If baby and I are good and the nurses are helping overnight, I'll encourage H to go home and get sleep. If my recovery sucks or something, I'll want H with us overnight.

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
I want DS at home and on schedule as much as possible. Either my parents or my in-laws will stay with him. My parents are 4 hours away and the ILs are 2.5 hours away with traffic (longer if the LIE/GW/LT are a mess), so as soon as I go into labor we'll call and see who can get here quicker. We have friends that have offered to help out with DS if we need to drop him off somewhere before family can get here. If I end up having a RCS, the only upside is that logistically things will be a little easier.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
Just our parents and my sister and her family while I am in the hospital. I'd prefer to not have friends or extended family over for the first few weeks after we get home. If I have a csection I think I'll want my parents to stay with us when they visit so my mom can help. I love them, but my inlaws may need to get a hotel. My top priority is nursing, so I anticipate being topless (or close to it) a significant amount of the time, so if people can't handle that they'll need to go somewhere else.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
Nothing different, per se, but this time is so different because we have DS. Last time we just had to get ourselves to the hospital. I'm a bit more stressed this time with worrying about care for DS. My parents and my inlaws are great, so no concerns about having them around.

[Taitai]

Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?

DH will be there for the entire labor/delivery, but he might go home at night to check on DS and get some sleep. We only are a 5 minute drive from the hospital, so that makes it easy. If I have complications in my recovery or if there are issues with the baby - DS is staying though!

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?

Our nanny will take care of DS at home. She is great and knows exactly how to take care of DS overnight and during the day. Not worried about that at all.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?

We live on the other side of the world from family - so no limits needed! It's not very common for friends to visit in the hospital over here - the culture is more private that way (which I love). Our only visitors will be DS and our nanny - just how I want it. We've also told our family that nobody flies out here to be visit until the baby is at least 2-3 months old. Do not want jet lagged houseguests needing to be entertained in a strange/exotic country when my baby is only a few weeks old. Hard pass.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?

DS didn't latch until the 3rd day, which was so stressful and resulted in me having to pump all the time the first week. That totally sucked and was exhausting. I am hoping that being more experienced this time around (after having breastfed DS for 2 years) will give me more confidence, so the baby will latch right away and I won't have to pump so often. I've also been leaking milk every now and then since 20 weeks, so fingers crossed that means my colostrum/milk will come in quickly. 🤞🤞

[rebeccabunch]

1) H will stay with me. Our hospital is 5 mins from home so he can easily run home to shower but I like him there. L&D and post partum was completely redone just before DS1 was born. I'm super picky and I think it's nice as far as hospitals go. Our hospital still lets you send baby to the nursery. I'll do this at night probably.

2) My parents live a block from us and my boys are there often. They will stay with my parents while we are in the hospital and the first night we bring new baby home to give us some time to acclimate. My parents have everything for them and no what to do without any direction from me and I like giving directions but they have it own.

3) visitors limit? both of our boys were born at night. With my unexpected C with DS1 we didn't get to post partum until 4AM and midnight w DS2. We don't have anyone waiting at the hospital either. Just H and I. With DS1 we had tons of visitors bc it was our first and I had a C so we were there for 5 days. It was too much. With DS2 I didn't out out a memo like do not visit us but naturally the amount of visitors shrunk and we were really there one day people could visit.

This time it will probably just be my parents and my BFF and maybe my bro and SIL though they will also have a new baby. My grandma would've come but she passed last year. H's parents live out of state so they will come the following week or so. I just tell people come visit when we are home.

4) do anything different? No.

This is exciting to talk about bc it's so soon for you guys!!

[moonandback141]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Yes.

2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?
DD will stay overnight with my mom.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?
Eh, not being too strict about it--we didn't have any issues last time--just the same group of family/friends that I have visited when they were the ones with the new baby.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid(s)?
Have my baby in the wee early morning hours so I can get more hospital time haha. DD was born at 10:36 pm so the first day in the hospital was really only an hour and a half.

[curmudgeon]

1. Yes, I want him to stay overnight.
2. DS will stay with my parents.
3. I really don't want any visitors. We lived halfway across the country when DS was born and although my parents traveled there, they spent most of the days out and about. It was nice being alone. Now we all live within 5 miles (including ILs) and I just want some space.
4. Will definitely use the hospital nursery. Last time H was all no way, we want the baby with us 24/7. Nope not this time.

[August Blooms]

1. Will your partner stay with you at the hospital overnight? Or will you have someone else there to help at night?

If I have to stay overnight (if I'm still under midwife care and everything looks good I'll be released from the hospital 4 hours after I give birth)


2. If you have other kid(s), will they stay overnight with friends or family, or go home with your partner at night?

The in laws are supposed to be coming to stay with us but we have no firm plans as of yet, I have yet to work out a backup plan but it will probably involve my mom and sister is some capacity.

3. Are you setting any limits about who/how many people can come and visit while you're in the hospital? Or when you get home?

Last time it was my parents, IL's, my sister and brother as well as my husbands best friend dropped by on the way to the airport. Same people can visit after I give birth but will not be allowed to hang out the whole day like the last time. I barely got any rest hadn't showered or cleaned up and probably should have been working on breastfeeding. DH didn't try to kick them out, I will definitely be more assertive this time.

4. Anything else you want to do differently than with your previous kid?

I will be more assertive with my needs if they aren't being met, last time I was too tired or expected DH to step up and speak up and that just did not happen.

[bootsorhearts1]

Taitai, I'm kinda jealous of your situation. And your answers made me LOL. I have been leaky a bit too so I'm hoping this time around milk isn't so f'ing hard to get out of my boobs. Last time I got tendinitis in my thumbs from squeezing them so hard.