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Post by dc2london on Oct 11, 2023 11:53:10 GMT -6
We can feel horrible for innocent palestinian civilians and innocent israelis. This whole discussion feels so one sided. It was confirmed that the terrorists beheaded babies and are raping children. CHILDREN. Setting whole families on fire, posting a grandmother's murder livestream on facebook for her granddaughter to see. And everyone is so silent on the horrific antisemitism that is happening there and all over the world, felt by all Jews now. It's fucking scary. And it feels like the Holocaust all over again with the silence from so many. I'm just so upset right now, as a liberal jew, that it's so one sided or there is a yes, but.... Or just plain silence. What will it take for people to give a shit about the atrocities that just happened to 1,000 innocent jewish families? And the rallies all over the world? Death to jews? Gas the jews? I'm devastated and praying my in laws can leave the country tomorrow and make it back home safely. I hope they are home safe soon
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Post by babybean on Oct 11, 2023 12:18:11 GMT -6
We can feel horrible for innocent palestinian civilians and innocent israelis. This whole discussion feels so one sided. It was confirmed that the terrorists beheaded babies and are raping children. CHILDREN. Setting whole families on fire, posting a grandmother's murder livestream on facebook for her granddaughter to see. And everyone is so silent on the horrific antisemitism that is happening there and all over the world, felt by all Jews now. It's fucking scary. And it feels like the Holocaust all over again with the silence from so many. I'm just so upset right now, as a liberal jew, that it's so one sided or there is a yes, but.... Or just plain silence. What will it take for people to give a shit about the atrocities that just happened to 1,000 innocent jewish families? And the rallies all over the world? Death to jews? Gas the jews? I'm devastated and praying my in laws can leave the country tomorrow and make it back home safely. Ironically, it feels very one sided to me in the other direction. World leaders are all condemning Hamas (rightfully), but at the expense of innocent Palestinians. People are losing their jobs for speaking up for Palestine (not Hamas). I’m seeing lots of Islamophobia, anti-Arab rhetoric, saying Gazan’s are animals that deserve this, “death to Palestinians!” chants, disinformation being spread, hate crimes, being told you support terrorism or hate Jews if you critique Israel at all, so on and so forth. None of it is okay. That is in conjunction with the atrocities Israel has faced these last few days also being inexcusably vile. I have been sick to my stomach and shed many tears for innocent Israeli lives and have been shutting down any antisemitic comments I see, as we all should. I can do that while also advocating for Gazans. I pray your in laws remain safe. I pray for the Jewish community, worldwide, because that is the human thing to do. It is also just and humane to pray and advocate for Palestinians and I will do that too. Many of my friends family are presumed dead but they’re awaiting confirmation. People don’t speak up because they don’t ‘understand’ or are afraid to be vilified (in both directions). We have to have these difficult conversations to try and fix that. And again, I am sorry for your pain. None of this should be reality. I’m sorry for the difficult conversations you’ll have to have with your kids. I’m sorry you don’t feel safe. My heart is with you and your family.
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Post by elle on Oct 11, 2023 12:21:34 GMT -6
Looks like they've decided to try making Scalise Speaker Ew. Not that there's any good choice but still.
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Post by babybean on Oct 11, 2023 12:22:28 GMT -6
My goal is never to hurt people or to be an insensitive asshole. I hope I don’t come off that way. I’m very passionate about minority rights, equality, anti-oppression etc and feel that I’m consistent with who and how I critique. I hope that is seen and understood. Ahimsa or non-harm (in all forms) is a Hindu belief I try to shape my life around.
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Post by downwarddog on Oct 11, 2023 12:35:42 GMT -6
Ugh, the school board candidate here (Scalia's daughter) said on Monday: "Not everyone agrees that there is systemic racism, and it has to be okay for people to disagree about that."
Sighhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by elle on Oct 11, 2023 12:36:25 GMT -6
Ugh, the school board candidate here (Scalia's daughter) said on Monday: "Not everyone agrees that there is systemic racism, and it has to be okay for people to disagree about that." Sighhhhhhhhhhhh Wtf lady. Eta: her, not you, in case that wasn't clear 😅
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Post by jaygee on Oct 11, 2023 12:37:45 GMT -6
Holding everyone in my heart today, particularly those with direct connections to people in harm’s way or already harmed.
I feel very lost for words but my heart is aching.
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Post by ladybrienne on Oct 11, 2023 12:38:27 GMT -6
Yeah, this is a lot to process. I have typed and deleted many posts here. I don't have adequate words. Just all around sadness and horror. Totally. There’s counselors at my kids’ school this week because so many families have been affected. So I had to talk to my older son because I know he would hear something. Trying to explain to my kid, when I can’t process it and it involves kids … I have genuinely felt sick all week. It’s too much. I am really, really sorry.
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Post by Cher on Oct 11, 2023 12:44:42 GMT -6
Totally. There’s counselors at my kids’ school this week because so many families have been affected. So I had to talk to my older son because I know he would hear something. Trying to explain to my kid, when I can’t process it and it involves kids … I have genuinely felt sick all week. It’s too much. I am really, really sorry. Thanks but don’t be for me. Explaining to my kids is very low on the scale of injustices happening this week. It’s just sick because kids are pure and trusting. Kids in Palestine and kids in Israel living it, kids anywhere hearing about it (or seeing it on social media), it shouldn’t be their reality.
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Post by ladybrienne on Oct 11, 2023 12:50:17 GMT -6
I told myself I was going to take a break from social media to process but I didn’t end up following through. I have never in my life seen so much antisemitism online. I witnessed a lot during the trump years, and since, I feel people became more emboldened, but not to this level. I can’t even repeat what I saw, I don’t know if it was trolls or actual accounts. The language, the rhetoric, I’ve never seen it that bad. I am Praying my aunt hasn’t seen it, and I don’t pray. I am just really alarmed and scared for everyone when it comes down to it, I am just sharing what I have seen the last few days. I know we have all seen some pretty heinous shit slung out there all around.
There are innocent civilians in Palestine and Israel who continue to be pawns for these dicks in power and it is so upsetting. There are a lot of uncomfortable truths that coexist with all of this, but my heart is just broken because the souls bearing the brunt are innocent and no one deserves to endure this . And so many have for quite some time. Ugh.
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Post by ladybrienne on Oct 11, 2023 12:51:25 GMT -6
We can feel horrible for innocent palestinian civilians and innocent israelis. This whole discussion feels so one sided. It was confirmed that the terrorists beheaded babies and are raping children. CHILDREN. Setting whole families on fire, posting a grandmother's murder livestream on facebook for her granddaughter to see. And everyone is so silent on the horrific antisemitism that is happening there and all over the world, felt by all Jews now. It's fucking scary. And it feels like the Holocaust all over again with the silence from so many. I'm just so upset right now, as a liberal jew, that it's so one sided or there is a yes, but.... Or just plain silence. What will it take for people to give a shit about the atrocities that just happened to 1,000 innocent jewish families? And the rallies all over the world? Death to jews? Gas the jews? I'm devastated and praying my in laws can leave the country tomorrow and make it back home safely. I will keeping them in my thoughts and I am so sorry.
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Post by ladybrienne on Oct 11, 2023 12:55:10 GMT -6
I am really, really sorry. Thanks but don’t be for me. Explaining to my kids is very low on the scale of injustices happening this week. It’s just sick because kids are pure and trusting. Kids in Palestine and kids in Israel living it, kids anywhere hearing about it (or seeing it on social media), it shouldn’t be their reality. Agreed. We try to shelter them from this and then you have to bring it to them. As a parent, that’s hard. I hope all those you know that have been affected will find peace and I will be thinking of them.
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Post by Sweetjane on Oct 11, 2023 12:56:28 GMT -6
My goal is never to hurt people or to be an insensitive asshole. I hope I don’t come off that way. I’m very passionate about minority rights, equality, anti-oppression etc and feel that I’m consistent with who and how I critique. I hope that is seen and understood. Ahimsa or non-harm (in all forms) is a Hindu belief I try to shape my life around. It's hard. I typed and deleted for 3 days because I was afraid to say something hurtful or incorrect. This is a very complex situation that has so many pieces to it and people are hurting on both sides. It is very eye opening when we look beyond what American media and the U.S. government is telling us. The British too, they are not innocent at all. Ask questions. Look at maps, new and old. www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/18/mapping-israeli-occupation-gaza-palestine
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Post by enchanted on Oct 11, 2023 12:58:02 GMT -6
I'm so sorry for those with personal connections, whether in Israel or Palenstine. It's horrifying enough watching everything without worrying about friends and family directly affected. My heart breaks for all the innocent people caught in this who were/are just trying to live their lives.
No matter how the Israeli government treats Palestinians, the Israeli citizens do not deserve this. (I apologize if I wasn't clear about that in previous posts.) Just as no matter what Hamas has done, non-Hamas Palestinians do not deserve this.
Hamas needs to be dismantled. I just wish it was/could be done in a way where no more innocent people (of all faiths and nationalities) were hurt or killed.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 11, 2023 14:03:06 GMT -6
Ugh, the school board candidate here (Scalia's daughter) said on Monday: "Not everyone agrees that there is systemic racism, and it has to be okay for people to disagree about that." Sighhhhhhhhhhhh WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ABOIT WELL DOCUMENTED FACTS FUCK.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 11, 2023 14:24:10 GMT -6
Would it make sense to make a thread just for Israel and Palestine? I feel crappy posting about domestic news in the midst of these very important conversations (but it's my job to know what happening and I share things I think people should know). I also want to protect any posters who may have loved ones in harm's way and want to be selective about when and how they consume information.
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2023 14:36:32 GMT -6
Would it make sense to make a thread just for Israel and Palestine? I feel crappy posting about domestic news in the midst of these very important conversations (but it's my job to know what happening and I share things I think people should know). I also want to protect any posters who may have loved ones in harm's way and want to be selective about when and how they consume information. I don’t really go here but I think this needs its own thread for various reasons.
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Post by cnf on Oct 11, 2023 15:21:11 GMT -6
I feel like I can’t escape horrible images and news stories about children. It’s horrific. Same. I'm barely sleeping and none of my usual distractions can keep my mind off of it. The teacher next door to me today asked if I'd seen the videos of the Hamas killing babies. I was very "no, I'm staying the fuck off Twitter and you should too JFC"
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Post by sweetpea on Oct 11, 2023 15:27:54 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Oct 11, 2023 16:36:44 GMT -6
Same. I'm barely sleeping and none of my usual distractions can keep my mind off of it. The teacher next door to me today asked if I'd seen the videos of the Hamas killing babies. I was very "no, I'm staying the fuck off Twitter and you should too JFC" El.on intentionally turned Twitter into a haven for antisemitism so yeah, everyone really really should stay off of there
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Post by sweetpea on Oct 11, 2023 16:48:32 GMT -6
The WaPost says Scalise is at least 20 votes short and it’s not just hard MAGA folks, some are supporters of McCarthy
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Post by elle on Oct 11, 2023 18:49:17 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Oct 11, 2023 18:55:19 GMT -6
But will they actually follow through and expel him or is this like the GQP-led impeachment of Paxton?
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Post by origami on Oct 11, 2023 19:03:30 GMT -6
But will they actually follow through and expel him or is this like the GQP-led impeachment of Paxton? If I'm mathing correctly it will require 71 GOP votes considering likely all dems will vote yes to expulsion.
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Post by athn64 on Oct 11, 2023 19:25:26 GMT -6
Santos should never have been elected. But I don't have faith in there being enough Republicans of strong moral fiber that will vote him out.
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Post by 4PrivetDrive on Oct 11, 2023 19:47:45 GMT -6
Ugh, the school board candidate here (Scalia's daughter) said on Monday: "Not everyone agrees that there is systemic racism, and it has to be okay for people to disagree about that." Sighhhhhhhhhhhh DISAGREEMENTS ARE FOR PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA, NOT RACISM. ELEVENTY!
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Post by clucky on Oct 11, 2023 20:27:25 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2023 7:51:14 GMT -6
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Post by byjove on Oct 12, 2023 8:32:49 GMT -6
At the pages?! I had missed that incident.
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