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Post by Eagles on Oct 26, 2023 9:34:34 GMT -6
Ok thank you for this. She definitely left that part out and I’m like, there has to be more to it because otherwise it’s just unbelievable how she was treated. There was a 3 hour stand off and her refusing to give the sons back to their dad. He had temporary full custody. She had visitation. The boys were brought over there by a Monitor for a 2 hour visit. Britney showed up late when there was only like 15 minutes left in the visit. It was a court appointed monitor so maybe not DCFS. Anyway, the police were called and showed up. She was in bathroom refused to come out. She was incoherent and not making sense. Paramedics came 2 hours later and that is when there are pictures of her being put in ambulance and she was on gurney. She lost visitation rights after this and I believe KF got sole custody at this time. It was a shitshow. Anytime she said her drug of choice was Adderall, I figured she would be leaving out some key shit. LOL She was coked up when she eloped with that Jason guy in Vegas. Sources who were there told one of the magazines, I remember.
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Post by Eagles on Oct 26, 2023 9:39:53 GMT -6
I believe that sometime between the beginning of the conservatorship and the end, her father became a controlling asshole. But she would have been dead without him. She was on the fast track to joining the 27 club.
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Post by jaygee on Oct 26, 2023 9:55:02 GMT -6
I believe that sometime between the beginning of the conservatorship and the end, her father became a controlling asshole. But she would have been dead without him. She was on the fast track to joining the 27 club. I think you’re probably right. And not to waste too much energy on this but since it’s a topic right now in my group therapy course - there is a tendency when a child (and even though she was an adult she was still his child) is struggling particularly with mental health to go too far on the spectrum of over parenting them. Basically going past “meeting them where they are” by giving proper support and just taking over and controlling. It’s a balancing act with helping people with mental health challenges to not force independence that they are not capable of in the moment but also not force dependence. I’m going to go on a limb and say that Jamie did not have good support for himself to know how to properly deal with the situation. Not to make excuses for him. But yeah I don’t think anyone in that situation knew what to do.
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Post by icedcoffee on Oct 26, 2023 9:56:00 GMT -6
I’m all in on the Andy and John rumors. Whoa I hadn't heard these. Interesting pair
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Post by normadix on Oct 26, 2023 10:00:48 GMT -6
I’m all in on the Andy and John rumors. Whoa I hadn't heard these. Interesting pair This has shown up on my FYP a few times. I’m all in and believe it…maybe..I can be convinced for sure.
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Post by angelashly on Oct 26, 2023 11:16:55 GMT -6
I believe that sometime between the beginning of the conservatorship and the end, her father became a controlling asshole. But she would have been dead without him. She was on the fast track to joining the 27 club. I think you’re probably right. And not to waste too much energy on this but since it’s a topic right now in my group therapy course - there is a tendency when a child (and even though she was an adult she was still his child) is struggling particularly with mental health to go too far on the spectrum of over parenting them. Basically going past “meeting them where they are” by giving proper support and just taking over and controlling. It’s a balancing act with helping people with mental health challenges to not force independence that they are not capable of in the moment but also not force dependence. I’m going to go on a limb and say that Jamie did not have good support for himself to know how to properly deal with the situation. Not to make excuses for him. But yeah I don’t think anyone in that situation knew what to do. I agree. Especially with someone who you know isn’t going to take care of themselves alone. She proved that wasn’t possible. Her dad may not be the person for her but she has proven since being “free” that she needs some guidance.
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Post by jaygee on Oct 26, 2023 11:39:31 GMT -6
I feel like JM and Andy are two eccentric middle aged besties who are just like - you know what, let’s be roommates.
I mean, I’ve definitely fantasized about buying a place with my bestie, ditching our Hs, and just raising kids and rescue dogs together. Just me? Lol.
Idk maybe they are a couple and if so, good for them. But it feels more like best friends with no income restrictions just living their best lives.
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Post by bazi on Oct 26, 2023 11:53:31 GMT -6
I believe that sometime between the beginning of the conservatorship and the end, her father became a controlling asshole. But she would have been dead without him. She was on the fast track to joining the 27 club. I think you’re probably right. And not to waste too much energy on this but since it’s a topic right now in my group therapy course - there is a tendency when a child (and even though she was an adult she was still his child) is struggling particularly with mental health to go too far on the spectrum of over parenting them. Basically going past “meeting them where they are” by giving proper support and just taking over and controlling. It’s a balancing act with helping people with mental health challenges to not force independence that they are not capable of in the moment but also not force dependence. I’m going to go on a limb and say that Jamie did not have good support for himself to know how to properly deal with the situation. Not to make excuses for him. But yeah I don’t think anyone in that situation knew what to do. She spends a lot of time on her relatives at the beginning, and you are right. Her dad had a monster for a father. I don’t think that excuses all of his actions. But he had a shitty childhood and a serious drinking problem.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 26, 2023 11:58:38 GMT -6
I believe that sometime between the beginning of the conservatorship and the end, her father became a controlling asshole. But she would have been dead without him. She was on the fast track to joining the 27 club. I think you’re probably right. And not to waste too much energy on this but since it’s a topic right now in my group therapy course - there is a tendency when a child (and even though she was an adult she was still his child) is struggling particularly with mental health to go too far on the spectrum of over parenting them. Basically going past “meeting them where they are” by giving proper support and just taking over and controlling. It’s a balancing act with helping people with mental health challenges to not force independence that they are not capable of in the moment but also not force dependence. I’m going to go on a limb and say that Jamie did not have good support for himself to know how to properly deal with the situation. Not to make excuses for him. But yeah I don’t think anyone in that situation knew what to do. People forget that during this time her dad was not in the picture. He dad was not like MLohan. He was not a stage dad. I'm not saying he was a good dad. I'm just saying he was not in LA or Cali. He was a contractor in Louisiana. People forget this and it is documented. Anyway Britney ends up firing everyone and making the paparazzi Sam her manager or something. She gets on drugs. People forget that she got hospitalized and lost custody before her dad or the cship. It was her mother, who I think with prior management who said cship. Probably the idea came up from management. Anyway, that's when Jamie comes into the picture. Jamie leaves his business and comes to LA. It was Lynn who knew all these people. It was Lynn who hung out in LA. Anyway they present the cship idea. Sounds good. He has no reason not to trust the people cause from his vantage point her career was going fine when these people were involved. Mind you Britney has millions missing at this time. Cship begins with Jamie and attorney has the heads. He rehires her prior team. The shit all begins. I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying he was a pawn and a puppet. He's gone now. She still not free. Also in all these years, Britney never asked to be let out of the cship. She never hired a lawyer. Remember she was in court telling the judge she never knew she could.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 26, 2023 12:00:20 GMT -6
I feel like JM and Andy are two eccentric middle aged besties who are just like - you know what, let’s be roommates. I mean, I’ve definitely fantasized about buying a place with my bestie, ditching our Hs, and just raising kids and rescue dogs together. Just me? Lol. Idk maybe they are a couple and if so, good for them. But it feels more like best friends with no income restrictions just living their best lives. Yeah, I'm a no. I don't want to live with a friend and raise their kids. Justin Beiber immediately no.
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Post by beatch on Oct 26, 2023 12:06:21 GMT -6
Britney and whoever wrote this book for sure left shit out. I’m going to read it but with the understanding that Britney doesn’t have the best recollection of things, has a mental illness that hasn’t been treated properly, and has never taken responsibility for things either. Not saying any of the people in her life are great but she also doesn’t get passes from me on things either And this is why I don’t like memoirs. They all are of course one sided and the person wants to put them in the best possible light. Oh I love memoirs. Celebrities have every right to get out their side and cash in. Millions, if not billions, have been made as a result of paparazzi coverage and articles about Britney. Why shouldn't she get a piece?
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Post by McBenny on Oct 26, 2023 12:20:35 GMT -6
I never thought these books were read by real people until this place.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 26, 2023 12:22:00 GMT -6
I'm not buying or reading this book.
1) most of what I'm hearing was already known and not new news.
2) she's not free and so I'm not convinced this was her idea. More money made for whoever.
3) a lot appears to be left out. Major big shit.
It's a no for me dawg.
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Post by claudia on Oct 26, 2023 12:23:15 GMT -6
I love memoirs. But I tend to view the skeptically and Britney's way more than most.
Leah Remini's I was the least skeptical about -probably in part because of my strong anti-Scientology bias - but also because she was so, so open about her flaws. "And I was a real bitch to her so XYZ happened," etc. She didn't try to sugar coat her own flaws at all, it seemed.
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Post by angelashly on Oct 26, 2023 12:24:21 GMT -6
And this is why I don’t like memoirs. They all are of course one sided and the person wants to put them in the best possible light. Oh I love memoirs. Celebrities have every right to get out their side and cash in. Millions, if not billions, have been made as a result of paparazzi coverage and articles about Britney. Why shouldn't she get a piece? I don’t think anyone is saying otherwise just that they should be taken as they are not necessarily gospel. I don’t read a ton of them but those that I do I appreciate when they call themselves out for things too. Plus I always laugh at the ones taken as gospel and those that are considered all lies when in reality they all are probably half true
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Post by angelashly on Oct 26, 2023 12:25:40 GMT -6
I love memoirs. But I tend to view the skeptically and Britney's way more than most. Leah Remini's I was the least skeptical about -probably in part because of my strong anti-Scientology bias - but also because she was so, so open about her flaws. "And I was a real bitch to her so XYZ happened," etc. She didn't try to sugar coat her own flaws at all, it seemed. I think this is why I liked Jessica Simpson’s. She told about her bad moves too
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Post by claudia on Oct 26, 2023 12:29:49 GMT -6
I love memoirs. But I tend to view the skeptically and Britney's way more than most. Leah Remini's I was the least skeptical about -probably in part because of my strong anti-Scientology bias - but also because she was so, so open about her flaws. "And I was a real bitch to her so XYZ happened," etc. She didn't try to sugar coat her own flaws at all, it seemed. I think this is why I liked Jessica Simpson’s. She told about her bad moves too Hers was another favorite. Very gossipy. The other part I don't like about most anymore is all the fun parts get posted ahead of time. So by the time you read the book, there isn't much "juice" left.
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Post by motherofdachshunds on Oct 26, 2023 12:29:57 GMT -6
I feel like JM and Andy are two eccentric middle aged besties who are just like - you know what, let’s be roommates. I mean, I’ve definitely fantasized about buying a place with my bestie, ditching our Hs, and just raising kids and rescue dogs together. Just me? Lol. Idk maybe they are a couple and if so, good for them. But it feels more like best friends with no income restrictions just living their best lives. I get it. We talk about our future Golden Girls house. While our kids are still living at home, the set up is a cul-de-sac where we each have our own houses but a community pool and clubhouse for parties, and a cottage for our moms to stay in when they visit.
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Post by icedcoffee on Oct 26, 2023 12:30:57 GMT -6
I'm not sure I've ever read a memoir. It's just not something that really interests me in general.
I don't mind seeing people talk about excerpts though, I like to stay in the loop
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Post by normadix on Oct 26, 2023 12:37:11 GMT -6
I think this is why I liked Jessica Simpson’s. She told about her bad moves too Hers was another favorite. Very gossipy. The other part I don't like about most anymore is all the fun parts get posted ahead of time. So by the time you read the book, there isn't much "juice" left. Yes! All the good bits get leaked and I lose interest. It’s almost better if they aren’t uber famous. No disrespect to Minka Kelly but no one was leaking excerpts from her book* so I went in almost blind and was pleasantly surprised. ETA that I saw, it may have been out there but not leaked on the BS or Prince Harry level
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Post by angelashly on Oct 26, 2023 12:39:35 GMT -6
Hers was another favorite. Very gossipy. The other part I don't like about most anymore is all the fun parts get posted ahead of time. So by the time you read the book, there isn't much "juice" left. Yes! All the good bits get leaked and I lose interest. It’s almost better if they aren’t uber famous. No disrespect to Minka Kelly but no one was leaking excerpts from her book so I went in almost blind and was pleasantly surprised. So many people tell me that about her book. I’ve never really cared for her but maybe I’ll give it a shot
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Post by normadix on Oct 26, 2023 12:41:28 GMT -6
Yes! All the good bits get leaked and I lose interest. It’s almost better if they aren’t uber famous. No disrespect to Minka Kelly but no one was leaking excerpts from her book so I went in almost blind and was pleasantly surprised. So many people tell me that about her book. I’ve never really cared for her but maybe I’ll give it a shot It was really good as far as memoirs go. I’m not a huge memoir person and maybeeee read 1-2 of them in a year but hers has been one of my favs ever.
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Post by normadix on Oct 26, 2023 12:46:38 GMT -6
One of my other favorite memoirs was Holly Madison’s Down the Rabbit Hole so I’m not sure how much weight my opinion should hold lol
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Post by motherofdachshunds on Oct 26, 2023 12:48:50 GMT -6
One of my other favorite memoirs was Holly Madison’s Down the Rabbit Hole so I’m not sure how much weight my opinion should hold lol That was a good one! I kinda hated myself for watching The Girls Next Door after reading it. So much ick going on in that house.
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Post by angelashly on Oct 26, 2023 12:57:13 GMT -6
So many people tell me that about her book. I’ve never really cared for her but maybe I’ll give it a shot It was really good as far as memoirs go. I’m not a huge memoir person and maybeeee read 1-2 of them in a year but hers has been one of my favs ever. Well as I mentioned recently Diary of a Video Vixen was a favorite of mine and got me back into reading for pleasure so…
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Post by McBenny on Oct 26, 2023 13:00:20 GMT -6
And this is why I don’t like memoirs. They all are of course one sided and the person wants to put them in the best possible light. Oh I love memoirs. Celebrities have every right to get out their side and cash in. Millions, if not billions, have been made as a result of paparazzi coverage and articles about Britney. Why shouldn't she get a piece? For me, I do not believe she is getting the money off of this as I do not believe her to be free. I don't care she get her piece, I just do not believe she is. Also to your point, I do not believe millions and billions were made from paparazzi coverage as during this time she was ALL OVER TOWN WITH THE OTHER IT GIRLS. Getting photos of them were not hard in the least. Remember they would wear no panties and get out of cars flashing cooch so yeah.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 26, 2023 13:01:04 GMT -6
Usually when celebrities sit down to do their memoirs many of them are very open book and raw and vulnerable in theirs. This is not that.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 26, 2023 13:04:31 GMT -6
I do not buy/read celebrity memoirs. I never have. I do not see that changing anytime soon. It could but not this one. So, nothing against Britney.
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Post by icedcoffee on Oct 26, 2023 13:05:15 GMT -6
It was really good as far as memoirs go. I’m not a huge memoir person and maybeeee read 1-2 of them in a year but hers has been one of my favs ever. Well as I mentioned recently Diary of a Video Vixen was a favorite of mine and got me back into reading for pleasure so… Oh I guess this would be a memoir wouldn't it? I take my previous post back then, I read this a long time ago and remember I LOVED it
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Post by angelashly on Oct 26, 2023 13:13:48 GMT -6
I do not buy/read celebrity memoirs. I never have. I do not see that changing anytime soon. It could but not this one. So, nothing against Britney. Library is how I do it
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