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Aug 14, 2023 10:15:17 GMT -6
Post by jewels on Aug 14, 2023 10:15:17 GMT -6
I think Jared could have played the not saving Reilly better than he did. Instead of telling her Hisam wasn't targeting her, which no one would believe, he should have told her he couldn't risk being put up himself if he saved her after she had Hisam's name in her mouth and admitted as much to him (Hisam). I don't watch the feeds, but I think Cirie is going to have her hands full with him. I agree with this. I think he could have handled that better with Reilly. I'm assuming Reilly will be hanging in a sequester somewhere due to the long season plus the ousting of Luke. I'm guessing there will be a battle back. I don't think there will be a battle back, unless it starts after the first boot. Julie told Nicole that Jared was Cirie's son
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Aug 14, 2023 10:18:43 GMT -6
Post by willow on Aug 14, 2023 10:18:43 GMT -6
I agree with this. I think he could have handled that better with Reilly. I'm assuming Reilly will be hanging in a sequester somewhere due to the long season plus the ousting of Luke. I'm guessing there will be a battle back. I don't think there will be a battle back, unless it starts after the first boot. Julie told Nicole that Jared was Cirie's son Who is Nicole? Do you mean Kirsten? I didn't expect Kirsten to be part of it anyway. I just wonder if they will save the next 3 or so HGs for one. Maybe not since they already stacked the house a bunch anyway. Maybe they will just eliminate a double eviction night instead.
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Aug 14, 2023 11:07:09 GMT -6
Post by spicysalmonroll on Aug 14, 2023 11:07:09 GMT -6
First, that nether gorgon was annoying me. I could barely fucking hear/understand what he was saying! I had to turn the captions on. 👵 same! especially is Matt can't really hear, I absolutely couldn't hear shit that was being said/ the clues
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Aug 14, 2023 11:23:46 GMT -6
Post by MelanieCarmichael on Aug 14, 2023 11:23:46 GMT -6
I think Jared could have played the not saving Reilly better than he did. Instead of telling her Hisam wasn't targeting her, which no one would believe, he should have told her he couldn't risk being put up himself if he saved her after she had Hisam's name in her mouth and admitted as much to him (Hisam). I don't watch the feeds, but I think Cirie is going to have her hands full with him. I agree with this. I think he could have handled that better with Reilly. I'm assuming Reilly will be hanging in a sequester somewhere due to the long season plus the ousting of Luke. I'm guessing there will be a battle back. I have been wondering about this. Especially with a longer season. Apologies if I missed this upthread, but any sense of whether Jared/Cirie will be the sole twist this season as far as contestant connections?
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Aug 14, 2023 11:38:14 GMT -6
Post by willow on Aug 14, 2023 11:38:14 GMT -6
First, that nether gorgon was annoying me. I could barely fucking hear/understand what he was saying! I had to turn the captions on. 👵 same! especially is Matt can't really hear, I absolutely couldn't hear shit that was being said/ the clues They have been abysmal at supporting Matt's disability. He has to rely on his hearing aids or other contestants during the competitions. I don't see why they couldn't have an interpreter if he needs ASL, at least for live shows and competitions.
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Aug 14, 2023 11:47:17 GMT -6
Post by willow on Aug 14, 2023 11:47:17 GMT -6
I agree with this. I think he could have handled that better with Reilly. I'm assuming Reilly will be hanging in a sequester somewhere due to the long season plus the ousting of Luke. I'm guessing there will be a battle back. I have been wondering about this. Especially with a longer season. Apologies if I missed this upthread, but any sense of whether Jared/Cirie will be the sole twist this season as far as contestant connections? I don't think anyone else knows each other, or at least not that the feeds have seen. I also feel like production would have clued us in on that as well. Although Cory and Luke are from two suburbs in FL that are pretty close to each other...but the Ft Lauderdale metro is massive of course. I am kinda rooting for the Professors, though honestly I don't really dislike anyone yet so I don't mind the "young" group either. I'm laughing that the ages of the "old" alliance outside of Cirie and Felicia are 30, 32, 37, 45, and 45. Cirie is 53 and Felicia is 63. I looked it up and actually going by age, Cameron "should" be grouped with the olds because hes 34, and Mecole is the lone 30 year old with the olds.
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Aug 14, 2023 11:59:38 GMT -6
Post by MelanieCarmichael on Aug 14, 2023 11:59:38 GMT -6
I'm rooting for the Professors, too, even if I am dying a little inside that the "olds" include those in their 30s/40s.
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Aug 14, 2023 12:16:09 GMT -6
Post by jewels on Aug 14, 2023 12:16:09 GMT -6
I don't think there will be a battle back, unless it starts after the first boot. Julie told Nicole that Jared was Cirie's son Who is Nicole? Do you mean Kirsten? I didn't expect Kirsten to be part of it anyway. I just wonder if they will save the next 3 or so HGs for one. Maybe not since they already stacked the house a bunch anyway. Maybe they will just eliminate a double eviction night instead. Yes. No idea why I typed nicole. I don't even think there is a nicole this season lol I was hoping there would be a battleback so I hope you're right!
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Aug 14, 2023 12:29:17 GMT -6
Post by spicysalmonroll on Aug 14, 2023 12:29:17 GMT -6
I think it's stupid as hell that Bowie is lying about being 45 saying she's 34. First of all she doesn't look 34 and second of all she could have used her age to relate even more to the "olds".
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Aug 14, 2023 13:27:55 GMT -6
Post by MelanieCarmichael on Aug 14, 2023 13:27:55 GMT -6
Who is Nicole? Do you mean Kirsten? I didn't expect Kirsten to be part of it anyway. I just wonder if they will save the next 3 or so HGs for one. Maybe not since they already stacked the house a bunch anyway. Maybe they will just eliminate a double eviction night instead. Yes. No idea why I typed nicole. I don't even think there is a nicole this season lol I was hoping there would be a battleback so I hope you're right! There is a Mecole. I wouldn't mind a battle back either.
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Aug 14, 2023 14:04:09 GMT -6
Post by willow on Aug 14, 2023 14:04:09 GMT -6
I did a bit more digging and apparently Matt does not know ASL. He only lip reads and uses his hearing aids. I guess on the feeds, he said with hearing aids he can hear almost nothing out of one ear like 15%, and the other ear he hears about 50% of what a hearing person would. So he has to really rely on the other HGs for being called to the diary room and stuff in the competitions. There could be better ways for CBS to help him for sure.
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Post by junch817 on Aug 14, 2023 14:13:18 GMT -6
Veto ceremony happened and noms are the same. Apparently Hisam said something about Reilly being his target and asked everyone to vote her out.
ETA Shortly after feeds returned Hisam has already apologized to Reilly for what he said and being so harsh. Says he didn’t mean for it to come out the way it did.
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Post by junch817 on Aug 14, 2023 14:30:19 GMT -6
I did a bit more digging and apparently Matt does not know ASL. He only lip reads and uses his hearing aids. I guess on the feeds, he said with hearing aids he can hear almost nothing out of one ear like 15%, and the other ear he hears about 50% of what a hearing person would. So he has to really rely on the other HGs for being called to the diary room and stuff in the competitions. There could be better ways for CBS to help him for sure. I’m nervous for the veto comp show. Usually we know why feeds would be down for such an extended period of time (about 19 hours), but we don’t. There have been a couple of things said about Matt though; people said they really felt bad for Matt; that Hisam would/could never put Matt up after that competition.
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Post by budders on Aug 14, 2023 22:11:45 GMT -6
Can in throw my $.02 in as a casual watcher? I get all the other updates from here lol. First, that nether gorgon was annoying me. I could barely fucking hear/understand what he was saying! I had to turn the captions on. 👵 I underestimated Hisam. I thought he was going to play as some airhead, ditzy guy (in the same way you'd describe a ditzy girl as a "blonde" I guess), but I really like how he has played his HOH so far. I'm not a Survivor watcher, so I'm not familiar with Cirie's gameplay, but I'm not like overly impressed with her? It's still so so early in the game so i reserve the right to change my opinion later. 🙃 Also, I feel like I would not be surprised if she inadvertently blew her own secret. I feel like she is much too outwardly invested in Jared for someone who's "not" working with him. Like when he showed up on the screen from the Nether, I heard her excitement louder than anyone else. She pushed her way towards the front of everyone lol. She blew kisses to him when he said goodbye. I mean I get it! But to me, if the other houseguests are paying attention, I think they'll see that there is a connection there. And LOL at "Foster Fields." (referring to that Twitter caption about Izzy) Cirie is doing a lot more strategizing/relationship building on the feeds and is in with almost everyone in the house even if they are not aligned. Honestly, the show and the feeds so far barely align with each other. Izzy is ALL over the feeds but is practically erased from the show. Also, this cast is REALLY oblivious. Jared or Izzy will (and almost have) blow this secret way before Cirie does.
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Post by budders on Aug 14, 2023 22:14:00 GMT -6
First, that nether gorgon was annoying me. I could barely fucking hear/understand what he was saying! I had to turn the captions on. 👵 same! especially is Matt can't really hear, I absolutely couldn't hear shit that was being said/ the clues I think they must have only done the weird voice in post and the contestants heard normal directions because none of them seemed remotely confused.
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Post by budders on Aug 14, 2023 22:19:45 GMT -6
I did a bit more digging and apparently Matt does not know ASL. He only lip reads and uses his hearing aids. I guess on the feeds, he said with hearing aids he can hear almost nothing out of one ear like 15%, and the other ear he hears about 50% of what a hearing person would. So he has to really rely on the other HGs for being called to the diary room and stuff in the competitions. There could be better ways for CBS to help him for sure. I’m nervous for the veto comp show. Usually we know why feeds would be down for such an extended period of time (about 19 hours), but we don’t. There have been a couple of things said about Matt though; people said they really felt bad for Matt; that Hisam would/could never put Matt up after that competition. On RHAP, Taran theorized that something happened with Matt misunderstanding or not being able to participate effectively because they didn’t accommodate for him properly in the veto challenge. He thinks they kept feeds down in order to try to cover up (or at least not draw attention to) immediate conversation about it on the feeds.
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Aug 15, 2023 6:20:44 GMT -6
Post by willow on Aug 15, 2023 6:20:44 GMT -6
same! especially is Matt can't really hear, I absolutely couldn't hear shit that was being said/ the clues I think they must have only done the weird voice in post and the contestants heard normal directions because none of them seemed remotely confused. That is what I theorized too. There is no way that Matt could have understood such a disembodied voice with no lips to read and not look completely lost, much less anyone else.
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Post by junch817 on Aug 15, 2023 14:58:16 GMT -6
Hisam’s HOHitis is A LOT. HGs have been discussing not only flipping all the votes to keep Reilly (which is what Cirie has wanted all along), but no one telling Hisam so as the HOH, he is completely blindsided.
Hisam is messy and blunt and it is HIGHLY entertaining.
He told Reilly she’s his target and he wants her out, but you know, sometimes they bring people back and he would love to work with her 💀💀💀
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Post by junch817 on Aug 15, 2023 16:16:56 GMT -6
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Post by junch817 on Aug 15, 2023 16:20:22 GMT -6
IMO, Meme is not wrong. They all vote to save Reilly, Reilly is STILL going to be aligned with her original group, and now Hisam is no longer a number on your side because everyone blindsided him. He can’t play for HOH, and if the Reilly side of the house wins HOH, which they have a good shot of doing, they aren’t going to come for Red or Felicia or Cory or Bowie…. they aren’t huge threats. They can’t come for Cameron because he will be gone. They won’t nominate Hisam because of his odds at winning veto. They will come for Cirie, Izzy or Jared.
Good TV does not equal good game, and I think this is the case for the professor side of the house.
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Post by junch817 on Aug 15, 2023 16:36:29 GMT -6
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Post by junch817 on Aug 16, 2023 11:01:58 GMT -6
I’m reading things about this week’s veto competition being an audio competition 😳🤬🙄 Like, WTAF?
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Post by junch817 on Aug 16, 2023 11:32:30 GMT -6
Ok here’s an article about all of the accommodations BB has been making, including everything done for the veto comp this week. I just can’t wrap my head around why they would choose to make a competition audio based when they have someone like Matt in the house. There are an obscene number of past competitions they could use, as well as creating something new that ISNT audio based. I don’t get it. It seems like CBS is preemptively putting this article out there because they know they are going to get a lot of shit about it. I don’t know…. maybe preemptively decide not to have this sort of competition in the first place? ew.com/tv/big-brother-deaf-contestant-matt-klotz/
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Aug 16, 2023 11:46:29 GMT -6
Post by willow on Aug 16, 2023 11:46:29 GMT -6
junch817 I'm glad they are doing those other accommodations for him but I agree about the competition. I get that the competitions are planned far in advance and there was no way of knowing whether Matt was going to compete, but why even plan one at all? So many other options that could have been used instead.
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Aug 16, 2023 19:55:59 GMT -6
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Post by imapenguin on Aug 16, 2023 19:55:59 GMT -6
Oh man. It’s immediately clear why this went so badly for Matt.
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Aug 16, 2023 20:00:48 GMT -6
Post by budders on Aug 16, 2023 20:00:48 GMT -6
I think that article is definitely in response to all of the speculation from the feeds to try to get ahead of things.
After seeing the edited episode version of what happened, it seemed like Matt didn't really understand the references, but I feel like something else must have happened for the reactions that the other houseguests had with what happened to him. I wonder if he initially had trouble hearing the clues and that plus the confusion with the meaning of the terms during the competition really slowed him down. They also mentioned in that article potential feedback with the hearing aids, I wonder if any of that was happening.
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Aug 16, 2023 20:03:28 GMT -6
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Post by imapenguin on Aug 16, 2023 20:03:28 GMT -6
I think that article is definitely in response to all of the speculation from the feeds to try to get ahead of things. After seeing the edited episode version of what happened, it seemed like Matt didn't really understand the references, but I feel like something else must have happened for the reactions that the other houseguests had with what happened to him. I wonder if he initially had trouble hearing the clues and that plus the confusion with the meaning of the terms during the competition really slowed him down. They also mentioned in that article potential feedback with the hearing aids, I wonder if any of that was happening. I hope the exit interview this week will be able to clear up what happened here.
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Aug 16, 2023 20:06:21 GMT -6
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Post by imapenguin on Aug 16, 2023 20:06:21 GMT -6
Only showing the top 3 times is pretty suspicious.
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Aug 16, 2023 20:09:50 GMT -6
Post by budders on Aug 16, 2023 20:09:50 GMT -6
Only showing the top 3 times is pretty suspicious. Agreed! It's very BB Can style.
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Post by junch817 on Aug 16, 2023 21:31:35 GMT -6
Only showing the top 3 times is pretty suspicious. VERY! BBCAN does this, but not US. Also, from the minimal pieces of info discussed by the HGs before feeds would get cut, they guessed that the comp only took about 5 hours ….. sooooo why were the feeds down for 19 hours straight? Also very suspicious- what were the HGs discussing that they didn’t want feed watchers to hear?
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