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Post by junch817 on Apr 28, 2023 14:23:02 GMT -6
I’m so confused - I thought Lauren used her extra vote last week? When Heidi said she was using Lauren’s vote, Lauren asked if that was both votes or just one, and she was told just one, but then didn’t she still vote? So why did she again have an extra vote this tribal council? And don’t even get me started on it that she gave it to Jamie so it was “secret and safe” and then Jamie gets to use it? I’m so done with these twists. There’s just no strategy involved when there are so many moving parts - it ends up being so much more about luck than strategy and it’s just not very fun to watch. I would rather be confused about who is lying, which is one of the key components of this game, than confused about advantages and powers. I'm confused too because I thought she used her extra vote last week. And then Kane said something like "only thing worse than being voted off with your idol in your sock is being voted off with someone else's idol in your sock". Did that mean he had someone's idol- Whose? DH & I were saying we despise when they all get up and whisper and we wish they voted on the walk in. So that way they could discuss ANYTHING juicy they wanted with Jeff openly without fear of the vote turning. It was Jamie’s idol…. They quickly showed her sitting down next to him on the beach when she passed it over to him. It was super easy to miss. That’s why she whisper asked him about if she should use it during TC, and he said he didn’t think so but he would absolutely give it to her if she ultimately decided she was at risk and wanted it to play. She gave it to him to hold in case someone used the knowledge is power power at tribal (which I don’t even think exists this season) this way they can’t gain the power if the person they believe has the idol no longer has the idol. They did this last season too and everyone was swapping everything before tribal and it was a mess HOWEVER WITH ALL THAT SAID, Jamie’s idol is a fake idol and doesn’t have any power in the first place. The whole thing is ridiculous. Like I said, I don’t want to be confused as a viewer, I want to be entertained and feel like I know more than the contestants, and I honestly don’t feel like I do! I’m just as confused as them and that sucks from an entertainment standpoint.
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Post by jinkies on Apr 29, 2023 7:53:18 GMT -6
junch817 where are you watching Australian episodes? I've heard a lot about how good they are, and would like to watch if I can. I don't understand vpns though so I'm hoping there might be an easier way.
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Post by junch817 on Apr 29, 2023 17:19:46 GMT -6
junch817 where are you watching Australian episodes? I've heard a lot about how good they are, and would like to watch if I can. I don't understand vpns though so I'm hoping there might be an easier way. I’m not using a vpn so it could work for you - I use the website videobrother.net. It’s under archieves, survivor Australia. It’s important to note though that, unfortunately, I have to get through half a dozen miniature R rated pop ups as soon as I select an episode, but once I close them up and (also have to) hit play a handful of times (for some reason it won’t work immediately), it works without issue when I expand to full screen. I watch it on my TV on using the “hidden” feature of the internet web browser, so that my kids don’t accidentally see anything if they would ever open up the internet browser on the fire stick (which they don’t because they have no reason to), and I only watch when they are in another room, completely occupied, or gone all together just in case something were to pop up lol It’s sort of a pain in the butt, but it keeps me from paying for a vpn and once I get the episode up and running, the quality is pretty great and there’s no other issues
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Post by spicysalmonroll on May 4, 2023 8:32:18 GMT -6
That was a predictable boring vote. Still laughing though that Jamie doesn't know about the idol being fake. I think they should have given the other people their letters from home at camp. The fact that they were all doing that challenge on their bellies and I would have flipped over so fast in order to dig my feet in and scoot my butt. I knew Carson had that puzzle, another one he practiced!
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Post by imapenguin on May 8, 2023 15:01:04 GMT -6
That was a predictable boring vote. Still laughing though that Jamie doesn't know about the idol being fake. I think they should have given the other people their letters from home at camp. The fact that they were all doing that challenge on their bellies and I would have flipped over so fast in order to dig my feet in and scoot my butt. I knew Carson had that puzzle, another one he practiced! Jessica from Millenials va Gen X said they weren’t allowed to move off of their fronts when she did that challenge. She even said Carolyn on her side wasn’t allowed when they did it.
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Post by spicysalmonroll on May 9, 2023 6:02:50 GMT -6
That was a predictable boring vote. Still laughing though that Jamie doesn't know about the idol being fake. I think they should have given the other people their letters from home at camp. The fact that they were all doing that challenge on their bellies and I would have flipped over so fast in order to dig my feet in and scoot my butt. I knew Carson had that puzzle, another one he practiced! Jessica from Millenials va Gen X said they weren’t allowed to move off of their fronts when she did that challenge. She even said Carolyn on her side wasn’t allowed when they did it. ah I was thinking it might be a rule since nobody did it
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Post by spicysalmonroll on May 11, 2023 6:50:40 GMT -6
Is it just me, I don't understand why they keep saying we have the numbers. They have 3 and Jamie, Lauren, Heidi makes 3- they are tied in numbers.
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Post by imapenguin on May 11, 2023 6:55:16 GMT -6
Is it just me, I don't understand why they keep saying we have the numbers. They have 3 and Jamie, Lauren, Heidi makes 3- they are tied in numbers. Yeah, and Heidi still has an idol. I don’t get it either and I think we’ll lose one of them next week.
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Post by GameNight on May 11, 2023 7:28:54 GMT -6
I think they're caught up in the belief that Ratu and Soka were sticking with original tribal alliances and didn't want to work with one another, so they seem to think the three of them outnumber what's left of Ratu or Soka, separately. I don't know why they think that when Ratu and Soka have been openly working together for weeks. I agree that they're going to get one of the Tika three out as soon as they can.
I don't think we've ever been down to two episodes left and I don't have anyone I'm strongly rooting for. I like Carolyn and think she's playing a much better game than anyone is giving her credit for/realizing, but I would be fine with any of the remaining players being in the final three or winning. Except for maybe Jaime, I don't think she's done as much (but she seems to be having so much fun which is fun to watch).
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on May 11, 2023 9:22:45 GMT -6
Carolyn slayed me last night and I am rooting for her to win. She continues to show how savvy she is, despite her poker face of crazy antics.
Her conversation with Danny about the vote (he thinks he has the majority to vote out Carson):
Danny: "We're voting for Jamie." Carolyn: "Is that the real plan or the fake plan?"
Later, at tribal council:
Jeff: "Are you annoyed?" Carolyn: "Absolutely." Jeff: "You get some sleep, Carolyn, who knows how you'll see things." She gives Jeff a death glare. Jeff: "Are you mad at me now?" Carolyn: "Yes." I am bummed that she used her idol and didn't need to play it after all, although it was worth it to see the looks on others' faces. And I loved how she literally waited until Jeff started to speak, reading the room, and played it. It also does signal to the jury - both with playing it and the fact that NO ONE knew she had it, not even Yam Yam, that she is a player to be reckoned with and not simply comedy relief.
That water challenge continues to give me the creeps. I doubt I'd last more than 30 seconds, let alone an hour or more.
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Post by junch817 on May 11, 2023 14:20:34 GMT -6
I love that the only two guys left in the game are a super young,self proclaimed nerd and yam yam who is unabashedly himself with a fantastic sense of humor, and that neither of them are what you would consider physical threats.
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Post by armpants on May 11, 2023 20:29:29 GMT -6
At the beginning of the season I would never think I'd like Carolyn as much as I do now.
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Post by sunseeker on May 11, 2023 22:11:39 GMT -6
At the beginning of the season I would never think I'd like Carolyn as much as I do now. Truer words have never been spoken.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on May 18, 2023 7:59:17 GMT -6
While Yam Yam may regret leading with his heart vs head, I am so glad that Carolyn stayed. I loved how in about five seconds at TC, she sized up what was being contemplated, that Yam Yam was on the fence, and with her eyes alone, helped sway him to keep her. If Carolyn makes it to F3, she's my pick to win. I'd be fine with any of the Tika 3 winning as they went from being the losing tribe to the little trio that could. Scratching my head at Heidi playing the idol that should have taken her to F4. The paranoia is real, I suppose. There's a Jaime on this show?
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Post by spicysalmonroll on May 18, 2023 9:21:00 GMT -6
I'm super happy to see Carolyn stay, even though I think it was stupid game play. But maybe it'll be a good argument for YamYam at final 3 to be able to say she's a threat but I was loyal to her.
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Post by budders on May 24, 2023 21:35:04 GMT -6
In general, that finale was so lovely. This season had such great players and characters and overall it was so positive and such fun television. I liked the after-finale interview better than usual too, it felt more like the reunion used to.
I'm very happy with Yam Yam winning, though I think Carolyn would have had a decent shot if she had talked more about her strategy. Her birdcage idol story and how she knew Danny was lying to her the night she played her idol would have gone a long way I think, though probably still no match for Yam Yam. I love the friendship with her and Yam Yam in particular and how they were supporting and building each other up during final questioning. I was glad Heidi didn't win, only because she put herself into fire and I hate that it has become such an important factor in some seasons (even though her record was super impressive).
My favorite part of the entire episode though was Carson using gestures to coach Carolyn through her strategy talk like an overbearing stage mom.
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Post by jinkies on May 25, 2023 6:11:25 GMT -6
I was happy with the winner. Carolyn did not seem to articulate her game very well, in part because I'm not sure that even she realized how insightful she was throughout the game.
Yam Yam was socially very strategic and played an amazing game in his own right.
I agree that Carson coaching Carolyn was adorable. I also loved Carolyn and Yam Yam reacting to Carson telling everyone he was working for NASA.
Heidi played a great game strategically but she just did not play a good enough social game to win.
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Post by imapenguin on May 25, 2023 7:41:54 GMT -6
I was so worried Heidi would win after putting herself into fire but I don’t think her final tribal pitch was quite as compelling as Yam Yam’s. He really understood what he had done to get himself to the end and was able to get the jury to see how he was doing everything without doing anything.
I agree that if Carolyn had been able to articulate her game better she could have beat him still. If only she had said she knew her emotional outbursts would have them underestimating her and that was the reason she chose not to suppress them! In the end I’m not totally sure she was aware of that or even doing it purposefully. It’s cool that she’s totally and completely herself without apology, but it’s not enough to win survivor in this era.
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Post by spicysalmonroll on May 25, 2023 12:16:41 GMT -6
I was also really happy with the players in the end and the outcome. YamYam: "What is your impression of me? You loooove me!" lol I mean come on, how can you not love him! Weird that only Carson and Frannie seemed to ask questions, was that agreed upon beforehand that they would be the collective voices or did the others just really have nothing to add? It seems kind of sad to not have everyone at the reunion, like talking about injured man/ what's his name planting the fake idol and he's not even there for that conversation.
It annoys me every time that Jeff keeps saying "apply, apply, apply!" because I read an article like 2 years ago that said only 1 person from each season is chosen from applicants anymore and the rest are specifically scouted and approached by producers based on their background, social media, sob story, connections, etc.
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Post by junch817 on May 25, 2023 18:58:30 GMT -6
I was literally tearing up when Yam Yam was helping Carson with fire. And the hand over hand part? I was a goner. I’m sure a part of him knew it would help as a connection for a jury vote, but I truly believe 99% of that was Yam Yam having so much respect for Carson and wanting to help him out. You could just see how sad and defeated Carson was, knowing he was probably going home, and to see Yam Yam take the time to sit behind him and hold his hands while trying to get it started - my Lord, I just loved them both so much in that moment.
Strategy wise and game play, this was not a very impressive season, but no one can deny that this season was full of good hearted, genuine and kind people.
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Post by junch817 on May 25, 2023 19:00:15 GMT -6
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Post by junch817 on May 25, 2023 19:03:23 GMT -6
And here’s the video to go along with it ❤️❤️
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Post by junch817 on May 25, 2023 19:05:50 GMT -6
Sia also rewarded $15K to Lauren and said she really felt her struggle with her and her kids
ETA Carson also received $15k ❤️
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Post by imapenguin on May 25, 2023 19:29:39 GMT -6
It annoys me every time that Jeff keeps saying "apply, apply, apply!" because I read an article like 2 years ago that said only 1 person from each season is chosen from applicants anymore and the rest are specifically scouted and approached by producers based on their background, social media, sob story, connections, etc. I was under the impression that this was true at the end of the…old era, I guess. But in the new era they’ve leaned back in to casting fans again.
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Post by jinkies on May 26, 2023 6:55:44 GMT -6
Sia also rewarded $15K to Lauren and said she really felt her struggle with her and her kids ETA Carson also received $15k ❤️ Poor Heidi. Finished second and everyone is still "we loved everyone in the top 5! Wait... not so fast Heidi"
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Post by spicysalmonroll on May 26, 2023 6:58:14 GMT -6
It annoys me every time that Jeff keeps saying "apply, apply, apply!" because I read an article like 2 years ago that said only 1 person from each season is chosen from applicants anymore and the rest are specifically scouted and approached by producers based on their background, social media, sob story, connections, etc. I was under the impression that this was true at the end of the…old era, I guess. But in the new era they’ve leaned back in to casting fans again. ah good I hope so
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Post by armpants on May 27, 2023 10:24:34 GMT -6
I was happy with the outcome. And this was the second season in 3 years I randomly picked the winner in the first episode 😂
Yam Yam really did have a great social game and was able to continue to charm during the final trial.
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Post by dingdongbitch on Jun 5, 2023 18:29:20 GMT -6
Honestly this was the first time ever that the player I found most annoying at the beginning became my favorite player by the end. Carolyn just seemed to have a spidey sense about things, she must be able to read people really well!
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