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Post by STP on Mar 1, 2023 17:26:53 GMT -6
Charles is going to get in trouble on the apolitical requirement. He legit thinks he's part of running the country.
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Post by Eagles on Mar 1, 2023 17:33:11 GMT -6
By taking away Frogmore, Charles is ensuring that H&M have nowhere to stay with royal protection, and potentially removing any UK residence for Harry which could mean taking him out of his Councillor of State role. I mean, he can afford to buy a place in the UK if that's what he wants. Royal protection issue notwithstanding, which is a valid concern. I could be wrong, but I don't think private citizens can have armed security in the UK. Also, the RPOs are privy to intelligence. So there could be credible threats that the Sussexes would have no clue about. That would be a deal breaker if I were Meghan, being a high profile target.
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 1, 2023 17:41:18 GMT -6
I'm always amazed at how you all can keep all the properties and houses and who lives where straight I didnt even know there was a place named Royal Lodge 🤣 I only know what it is called because of the articles about offering him Frogmore. I also learned he pays rent of 250/week, about 400K annually in maintenance and taxes, has spent like 7 million on renovations and it has 30 rooms. I legit never gave it any thought before this, other than to think it's funny that he and Fergie still live together. That's part of the point that I was making above. KC3 has brought all of this into the spotlight by "punishing" Harry and Meghan. It backfires more than it stirs up the anti-Meghan base. People aren't going to become more anti-Harry and Meghan over this. They may just become more anti-monarchy over it though and that won't be good for KC3 and Camilla. I totally didn't even realize they still live together! Whoa
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 1, 2023 17:41:40 GMT -6
I dont really know where I thought Fergie and Andrew lived actually lol
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Post by angelashly on Mar 1, 2023 17:42:24 GMT -6
I mean, he can afford to buy a place in the UK if that's what he wants. Royal protection issue notwithstanding, which is a valid concern. I could be wrong, but I don't think private citizens can have armed security in the UK. Also, the RPOs are privy to intelligence. So there could be credible threats that the Sussexes would have no clue about. That would be a deal breaker if I were Meghan, being a high profile target. You are correct
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Post by STP on Mar 1, 2023 17:46:28 GMT -6
I mean, he can afford to buy a place in the UK if that's what he wants. Royal protection issue notwithstanding, which is a valid concern. I could be wrong, but I don't think private citizens can have armed security in the UK. Also, the RPOs are privy to intelligence. So there could be credible threats that the Sussexes would have no clue about. That would be a deal breaker if I were Meghan, being a high profile target. Right. But he could buy a studio condo and call that his residence if that’s the issue. They don’t have to go there and stay. I’m not saying they should have to do that. Eta just to say Charles can’t really keep him out if he’s hell bent.
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Post by STP on Mar 1, 2023 17:48:36 GMT -6
I only know what it is called because of the articles about offering him Frogmore. I also learned he pays rent of 250/week, about 400K annually in maintenance and taxes, has spent like 7 million on renovations and it has 30 rooms. I legit never gave it any thought before this, other than to think it's funny that he and Fergie still live together. That's part of the point that I was making above. KC3 has brought all of this into the spotlight by "punishing" Harry and Meghan. It backfires more than it stirs up the anti-Meghan base. People aren't going to become more anti-Harry and Meghan over this. They may just become more anti-monarchy over it though and that won't be good for KC3 and Camilla. I totally didn't even realize they still live together! Whoa They “divorced” to keep Mummy happy. But they didn’t split.
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Post by beepers on Mar 1, 2023 18:18:22 GMT -6
STP yes I think Andrew will throw the biggest hissy fit. But privately. Publicly he won’t because he knows Chaz pulls all the strings. Unless Andrew inherited $$$$$$ from some private Liz money or something. In which case he could try and burn it down but I think Charles has so much dirt on him and everything with the payout etc etc etc and Andy clearly knows now that if you cross Charles you are seriously on your own.
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Post by Eagles on Mar 1, 2023 18:47:53 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but I don't think private citizens can have armed security in the UK. Also, the RPOs are privy to intelligence. So there could be credible threats that the Sussexes would have no clue about. That would be a deal breaker if I were Meghan, being a high profile target. Right. But he could buy a studio condo and call that his residence if that’s the issue. They don’t have to go there and stay. I’m not saying they should have to do that. Eta just to say Charles can’t really keep him out if he’s hell bent. Oh, definitely. I think at this point he maybe realizes he's not getting the apology he wants...like, booting your son and his family out of their only UK residence is one way to napalm a bridge.
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Post by pitchslap on Mar 1, 2023 18:51:09 GMT -6
I totally didn't even realize they still live together! Whoa They “divorced” to keep Mummy happy. But they didn’t split. Wasn't it more Philip? I thought he HAAAAATED Fergie. Well keep mummy happy by way of Philip's happiness.
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Post by STP on Mar 1, 2023 19:21:28 GMT -6
They “divorced” to keep Mummy happy. But they didn’t split. Wasn't it more Philip? I thought he HAAAAATED Fergie. Well keep mummy happy by way of Philip's happiness. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
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Post by 4speedy on Mar 1, 2023 21:07:08 GMT -6
Let’s be real no one from the family will confirm anything anyway. So unless we see moving trucks which I doubt will happen we will always be wondering Sussexes have confirmed now. I wish the statement had read “we can confirm the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been asked to return their home that had been gifted to them by QEII”
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Post by 4speedy on Mar 1, 2023 21:11:28 GMT -6
Do we know the frog more thing for sure? It’s been reported that eviction stuff has started but no one from the family has said anything of course I wonder if it’s an actual eviction in the way Americans use the word, meaning legally removed. Or if the Brits just use the word to mean “asked to leave.” I want to know what level of hostility we are working with here. Evictions seems to imply to my American ears that they were asked to leave but refused so now it is progressing to a legal settlement. In which case, good for them, they need to work that 3M bucks into the deal.
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Post by 4speedy on Mar 1, 2023 21:15:07 GMT -6
I Hope they are smart and have some property in their name in the UK. I hope so too but I really really think Harry was naive enough to think this wouldn’t happen Dude couldn’t even buy IKEA furniture by himself. Unless it was left to him by his mother, I sincerely doubt he could handle a real estate transaction on his own. Maybe one of his aunts will let him rent their basement.
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Post by 4speedy on Mar 1, 2023 21:19:54 GMT -6
Wow Chuck really holds a grudge huh. This is a huge middle finger. Harold better get on that next book because there’s absolutely zero chance these relationships will mend. I actually think this has Williams fingerprints all over it. I think he masterminded the whole thing and Charles doesn’t have a spine. Easier to piss of the son who lives 6000 miles away than the one living down the road.
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Post by 4speedy on Mar 1, 2023 21:26:51 GMT -6
I'm always amazed at how you all can keep all the properties and houses and who lives where straight I didnt even know there was a place named Royal Lodge 🤣 I only know what it is called because of the articles about offering him Frogmore. I also learned he pays rent of 250/week, about 400K annually in maintenance and taxes, has spent like 7 million on renovations and it has 30 rooms. I legit never gave it any thought before this, other than to think it's funny that he and Fergie still live together. That's part of the point that I was making above. KC3 has brought all of this into the spotlight by "punishing" Harry and Meghan. It backfires more than it stirs up the anti-Meghan base. People aren't going to become more anti-Harry and Meghan over this. They may just become more anti-monarchy over it though and that won't be good for KC3 and Camilla. I don’t know if we can definitely say they live “together” in a 30 room home. They could go for weeks without seeing each other.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 2, 2023 7:07:10 GMT -6
Wow Chuck really holds a grudge huh. This is a huge middle finger. Harold better get on that next book because there’s absolutely zero chance these relationships will mend. I actually think this has Williams fingerprints all over it. I think he masterminded the whole thing and Charles doesn’t have a spine. Easier to piss of the son who lives 6000 miles away than the one living down the road. I think you are giving Charles too much credit.
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Post by 4speedy on Mar 2, 2023 9:21:13 GMT -6
I actually think this has Williams fingerprints all over it. I think he masterminded the whole thing and Charles doesn’t have a spine. Easier to piss of the son who lives 6000 miles away than the one living down the road. I think you are giving Charles too much credit. I think William went to his dad and said he wanted Royal Lodge. And oh, whatever would they do about Andrew. Well Frogmore is empty so let’s just move home there. I’m sure he was twisting his mustache with a fiendish laugh the whole time because he knew he would be screwing his brother over as a side effect of his perfectly logical plan to move Andrew. Charles was only too happy to oblige since he would be pissing Andrew off, as well.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 2, 2023 9:23:42 GMT -6
I think you are giving Charles too much credit. I think William went to his dad and said he wanted Royal Lodge. And oh, whatever would they do about Andrew. Well Frogmore is empty so let’s just move home there. I’m sure he was twisting his mustache with a fiendish laugh the whole time because he knew he would be screwing his brother over as a side effect of his perfectly logical plan to move Andrew. Charles was only too happy to oblige since he would be pissing Andrew off, as well. But frogmore isn’t empty. Charles knew what he was doing I have no doubt.
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Post by STP on Mar 2, 2023 9:37:46 GMT -6
I think William went to his dad and said he wanted Royal Lodge. And oh, whatever would they do about Andrew. Well Frogmore is empty so let’s just move home there. I’m sure he was twisting his mustache with a fiendish laugh the whole time because he knew he would be screwing his brother over as a side effect of his perfectly logical plan to move Andrew. Charles was only too happy to oblige since he would be pissing Andrew off, as well. But frogmore isn’t empty. Charles knew what he was doing I have no doubt. Well, they aren't staying there so it's "empty." But all the above mentioned stuff.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 2, 2023 10:30:17 GMT -6
But frogmore isn’t empty. Charles knew what he was doing I have no doubt. Well, they aren't staying there so it's "empty." But all the above mentioned stuff. But it’s theirs and they have it furnished and have let other members of the family stay there as have they a few time so it hasn’t been sitting empty for the last 3 years is all I’m saying. But yes it is clearly a second home so it isn’t like they are homeless now
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Post by sifl on Mar 2, 2023 11:35:13 GMT -6
I think you are giving Charles too much credit. I think William went to his dad and said he wanted Royal Lodge. And oh, whatever would they do about Andrew. Well Frogmore is empty so let’s just move home there. I’m sure he was twisting his mustache with a fiendish laugh the whole time because he knew he would be screwing his brother over as a side effect of his perfectly logical plan to move Andrew. Charles was only too happy to oblige since he would be pissing Andrew off, as well. This is an excellent visual, thank you.
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