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Post by athn64 on Dec 9, 2022 15:53:41 GMT -6
They should have done this one instead
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Post by AmyG on Dec 9, 2022 16:13:48 GMT -6
I am in AZ and I don't hate Kirsten Sinema. This felt like a confession on this board, so I also posted it in the confessions thread. She isn't always my cup of tea and the obstruction-y antics are BS, but I really see how she accurately represents Arizona a lot of the time. oh she doesn't really represent me in Arizona very well.
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Post by blurnette989 on Dec 9, 2022 16:25:07 GMT -6
bitsandpieces but you saying she reps AZ well doesn't seem to square with the voters of AZ overall. Does this not jive with your perception of the voter populace?
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Post by bitsandpieces on Dec 9, 2022 16:34:11 GMT -6
bitsandpieces but you saying she reps AZ well doesn't seem to square with the voters of AZ overall. Does this not jive with your perception of the voter populace? Hard to say. The majority of my circle is democrats who are definitely frustrated by her. But I also hear and read local news and opinions of people who want someone who doesn't just toe a party line. I guess a better explanation is that AZ independents make up 1/3 of the state and seem to want a candidate that they are not finding in either party. Kirsten is far from a perfect example of how to do that, but I think an independent Senator makes sense for AZ, even if it doesn't align with all of my values.
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Post by bitsandpieces on Dec 9, 2022 16:35:38 GMT -6
I am in AZ and I don't hate Kirsten Sinema. This felt like a confession on this board, so I also posted it in the confessions thread. She isn't always my cup of tea and the obstruction-y antics are BS, but I really see how she accurately represents Arizona a lot of the time. oh she doesn't really represent me in Arizona very well. This is totally fair. I am not sorry I voted for her last round, but I don't know that I would again.
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Post by mrsweasley on Dec 9, 2022 17:28:03 GMT -6
bitsandpieces but you saying she reps AZ well doesn't seem to square with the voters of AZ overall. Does this not jive with your perception of the voter populace? Hard to say. The majority of my circle is democrats who are definitely frustrated by her. But I also hear and read local news and opinions of people who want someone who doesn't just toe a party line. I guess a better explanation is that AZ independents make up 1/3 of the state and seem to want a candidate that they are not finding in either party. Kirsten is far from a perfect example of how to do that, but I think an independent Senator makes sense for AZ, even if it doesn't align with all of my values. I am not an AZ voter but I can absolutely appreciate not just falling in line. I think a healthy discourse is good and necessary in the right environment to craft good laws and represent everyone. I think her obstructionist tactics don't often represent that though (also looking at you Manchin) because they hold up ANYTHING from being passed and feels performative. Especially when it benefits the right so much. I want to see Congress get shit done, 1 or 2 people being able to hold things hostage, especially frequently, doesn't feel like it represents voters. I felt the same when Mitch McConnell just sat on mountains of bills that passed the House. That's why Congress overall has such a low approval rating. ETA: and you're absolutely entitled to your feelings. I'm just explaining my own non-AZ view
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Post by AmyG on Dec 9, 2022 17:38:49 GMT -6
If you vote with the republicans you are not representing az democrats nor AZ independents. If you block legislation that the bulk of democrats and independents favor you are not serving them I also do not believe 1/3 of Arizonans are independents
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Post by bitsandpieces on Dec 9, 2022 20:49:16 GMT -6
If you vote with the republicans you are not representing az democrats nor AZ independents. If you block legislation that the bulk of democrats and independents favor you are not serving them I also do not believe 1/3 of Arizonans are independents I have always heard the statistic that AZ is 1/3 Dem, 1/3 Rep, and 1/3 Ind. I've never checked the voter registration personally though. Again, I like the idea of an independent Senator for AZ, but I agree that the obstructionist BS is a problem and has to stop. My main point was that I don't hate her for switching parties since I always viewed her as more independent anyways. Her actions and voting record show that she isn't really a Democrat, so I am not mad that she changed her affiliation to match. Feels more honest.
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Post by AmyG on Dec 9, 2022 22:19:10 GMT -6
If you vote with the republicans you are not representing az democrats nor AZ independents. If you block legislation that the bulk of democrats and independents favor you are not serving them I also do not believe 1/3 of Arizonans are independents I have always heard the statistic that AZ is 1/3 Dem, 1/3 Rep, and 1/3 Ind. I've never checked the voter registration personally though. Again, I like the idea of an independent Senator for AZ, but I agree that the obstructionist BS is a problem and has to stop. My main point was that I don't hate her for switching parties since I always viewed her as more independent anyways. Her actions and voting record show that she isn't really a Democrat, so I am not mad that she changed her affiliation to match. Feels more honest. a little more than a third republican and not independent, "other" which may include other parties besides independents Id guess. Shes a republican leaning independent imho.
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Post by byjove on Dec 9, 2022 22:21:44 GMT -6
Sounds like more than just NC has been having substations attacked.
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Post by sifl on Dec 9, 2022 22:44:11 GMT -6
Sounds like more than just NC has been having substations attacked. So definitely terrorism. Neat!
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Post by sifl on Dec 9, 2022 22:47:31 GMT -6
If you vote with the republicans you are not representing az democrats nor AZ independents. If you block legislation that the bulk of democrats and independents favor you are not serving them I also do not believe 1/3 of Arizonans are independents I have always heard the statistic that AZ is 1/3 Dem, 1/3 Rep, and 1/3 Ind. I've never checked the voter registration personally though. Again, I like the idea of an independent Senator for AZ, but I agree that the obstructionist BS is a problem and has to stop. My main point was that I don't hate her for switching parties since I always viewed her as more independent anyways. Her actions and voting record show that she isn't really a Democrat, so I am not mad that she changed her affiliation to match. Feels more honest. I’m technically an independent too (on the Antifa/commie side of things though, not the moderate side 😂), so I get the appeal of an independent representative. I wish Congress had more room for independents and less entrenchment of 2 opposing sides.
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Post by clucky on Dec 9, 2022 23:06:33 GMT -6
Omg 😸 He’s my new favorite! Do not be fooled. He is awful. And this photo has been around since at least 2013 with the old NE football coach’s face.
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Post by clucky on Dec 9, 2022 23:08:44 GMT -6
They should have done this one instead But then he couldn’t pander to the college football fans as they celebrate their newest coach with a photo throwback to 3 coaches prior.
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Post by mrsweasley on Dec 9, 2022 23:50:56 GMT -6
AOC critized Sinema and said it's "no Healthcare, just vibes" 🤣🤣ðŸ˜
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Post by sifl on Dec 10, 2022 2:39:03 GMT -6
Omg 😸 He’s my new favorite! Do not be fooled. He is awful. And this photo has been around since at least 2013 with the old NE football coach’s face. Oh no! I am always so surprised when cat people turn out to be awful. Lol.
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Post by cakewench on Dec 10, 2022 4:19:47 GMT -6
Mast of FL took to Twitter to blast Sheila Jackson Lee for having a flag in a trash can. Except that was not the case at all and Lee masterfully calls him out:
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Post by Sweetjane on Dec 10, 2022 6:09:34 GMT -6
If you vote with the republicans you are not representing az democrats nor AZ independents. If you block legislation that the bulk of democrats and independents favor you are not serving them I also do not believe 1/3 of Arizonans are independents I have always heard the statistic that AZ is 1/3 Dem, 1/3 Rep, and 1/3 Ind. I've never checked the voter registration personally though. Again, I like the idea of an independent Senator for AZ, but I agree that the obstructionist BS is a problem and has to stop. My main point was that I don't hate her for switching parties since I always viewed her as more independent anyways. Her actions and voting record show that she isn't really a Democrat, so I am not mad that she changed her affiliation to match. Feels more honest. Make no mistake, her announcement is performative and not to be confused with honest. She timed it perfectly after Warnock won the runoff. She's sending a message to the dems that they are not to get too comfortable with their Senate majority. It's total bullshit.
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Post by clucky on Dec 10, 2022 6:59:42 GMT -6
Do not be fooled. He is awful. And this photo has been around since at least 2013 with the old NE football coach’s face. Oh no! I am always so surprised when cat people turn out to be awful. Lol. If it makes you feel better, I think he is a fake cat person. This is the first time he has mentioned or shown a car, and it is photoshopped. But as a hypocrite style politician, who’s biggest win to date is renaming a local post office, it is t surprising. Anywho, a story of where this all started…for someone else. www.cornnation.com/2014/4/13/5610460/bo-pelini-a-love-story-of-coach-and-cat twitter.com/fauxpelini
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Post by jaygee on Dec 10, 2022 9:13:05 GMT -6
Mast of FL took to Twitter to blast Sheila Jackson Lee for having a flag in a trash can. Except that was not the case at all and Lee masterfully calls him out: My first thought reading her response is that now they will blame Congresswoman AOC. Lol.
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Post by trueblue on Dec 10, 2022 9:43:12 GMT -6
Sounds like more than just NC has been having substations attacked. So definitely terrorism. Neat! Thankfully 2 shootings in SC appear to just be geographically related - one involved people in a truck shooting into the woods near a substation, but not in the direction of the substation; the second was only reported by one news outlet, but given the general area I would not be surprised if it was only linked by proximity.
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Post by beaf12 on Dec 10, 2022 10:49:01 GMT -6
I agree on both counts. I think this whole seat is fucked to be honest. Is cloning Mark Kelly an option? He does have an identical twin 🤔.
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Post by jaygee on Dec 10, 2022 12:09:14 GMT -6
Is cloning Mark Kelly an option? He does have an identical twin 🤔. Oh my gosh - how did I forget that? Lol.
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Post by AmyG on Dec 10, 2022 12:59:21 GMT -6
Is cloning Mark Kelly an option? He does have an identical twin 🤔. Guess we gotta get his brother
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Post by richard on Dec 10, 2022 13:46:26 GMT -6
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Dec 10, 2022 13:55:20 GMT -6
He does have an identical twin 🤔. Oh my gosh - how did I forget that? Lol. didn’t they story he and his brother to determine the effects of space travel on the body?
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Post by mrsweasley on Dec 10, 2022 14:29:01 GMT -6
Oh my gosh - how did I forget that? Lol. didn’t they story he and his brother to determine the effects of space travel on the body? Yes! They studied the changes in DNA in space. His brother Scott went to space for a year and Mark was already retired and remained on Earth www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-s-twins-study-results-published-in-science
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Post by Ls2012 on Dec 10, 2022 15:23:25 GMT -6
That's a whole lot of shit people in one setting.
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Post by Ls2012 on Dec 10, 2022 15:24:25 GMT -6
This sounds like part of the setup to Avatar.
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Post by leahcar on Dec 10, 2022 18:08:58 GMT -6
That's a whole lot of shit people in one setting. That’s not dates everyone woman Pete Davidson with them, is it?!
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