normadix
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Post by normadix on Dec 1, 2022 15:21:21 GMT -6
I thought that was a show that Alex Jones hosted? Am I wrong? Yup. It's still on the air. And today Kanye made Alex J sound reasonable. The things he said on the show are horrific. Obviously not going to post what he said but it’s all over the internet. I really don’t understand what is going on with him.
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Post by willow on Dec 1, 2022 15:45:56 GMT -6
I don't know. I have other problematic artists on my music queue like Michael Jackson and a couple R Kelly songs, but I'm really hovering over the delete button for College Dropout and Late Registration. The public nature in which he's becoming an alt right super figure is alarming and disgusting.
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Post by willow on Dec 1, 2022 15:46:24 GMT -6
Like when you make A.Jones visibly uncomfortable, yeah.
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Post by downwarddog on Dec 1, 2022 15:52:20 GMT -6
Like when you make A.Jones visibly uncomfortable, yeah. He’s like, I cannot get sued again…
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Cher
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Post by Cher on Dec 1, 2022 16:30:53 GMT -6
I actually had a sit down with a Holocaust survivor last night. They were a friend of a friend’s parent, so my friend arranged it for us. They were a child and lost immediate family members at the hands of Nazis. Something I didn’t realize was after they were liberated by the Soviets, they weren’t accepted by the world. Many people still had a hateful view of Jews and the survivors faced blatant anti-Semiticism. So just like there are Holocaust survivors, there are people who grew up with extremely harmful views on the Jews, still alive today.
I actually wanted to ask if they thought it could happen again because there has been such a rise in division and hate. But, seeing this adorable old person, who still has horrible PTSD (won’t get too into it but their life is altered to this day), I couldn’t even look into their eyes and ask that because I knew it would be too much for them. What Kanye is doing is so so dangerous.
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Post by Bookshelves on Dec 1, 2022 17:01:13 GMT -6
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Post by Leaf 🌱 on Dec 1, 2022 17:01:45 GMT -6
I actually had a sit down with a Holocaust survivor last night. They were a friend of a friend’s parent, so my friend arranged it for us. They were a child and lost immediate family members at the hands of Nazis. Something I didn’t realize was after they were liberated by the Soviets, they weren’t accepted by the world. Many people still had a hateful view of Jews and the survivors faced blatant anti-Semiticism. So just like there are Holocaust survivors, there are people who grew up with extremely harmful views on the Jews, still alive today. I actually wanted to ask if they thought it could happen again because there has been such a rise in division and hate. But, seeing this adorable old person, who still has horrible PTSD (won’t get too into it but their life is altered to this day), I couldn’t even look into their eyes and ask that because I knew it would be too much for them. What Kanye is doing is so so dangerous. I work in this space and can confirm Survivors are extremely concerned which is why many are very open about their experiences - first person accounts have proven to be very powerful for sharing the lessons of the Holocaust and we have very few years left with our survivors. Holocaust denial is more prevalent than most people realize.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Dec 1, 2022 17:38:14 GMT -6
I just can't understand how people can deny a very real, terrible thing. Entire families were wiped out. How can you say otherwise? Kanye needs to go away
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Post by Cher on Dec 1, 2022 17:49:58 GMT -6
I actually had a sit down with a Holocaust survivor last night. They were a friend of a friend’s parent, so my friend arranged it for us. They were a child and lost immediate family members at the hands of Nazis. Something I didn’t realize was after they were liberated by the Soviets, they weren’t accepted by the world. Many people still had a hateful view of Jews and the survivors faced blatant anti-Semiticism. So just like there are Holocaust survivors, there are people who grew up with extremely harmful views on the Jews, still alive today. I actually wanted to ask if they thought it could happen again because there has been such a rise in division and hate. But, seeing this adorable old person, who still has horrible PTSD (won’t get too into it but their life is altered to this day), I couldn’t even look into their eyes and ask that because I knew it would be too much for them. What Kanye is doing is so so dangerous. I work in this space and can confirm Survivors are extremely concerned which is why many are very open about their experiences - first person accounts have proven to be very powerful for sharing the lessons of the Holocaust and we have very few years left with our survivors. Holocaust denial is more prevalent than most people realize. It’s interesting because the person said they never spoke about their experience until recently. What prompted them to is they saw a picture of themselves on a white supremacy sort of site as “proof” that the Holocaust didn’t happen. It was really powerful and it made me realize I need to have a convo with my oldest about it. He has such an affinity for history and, like you said, we don’t have a lot of time left with survivors.
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Post by Cher on Dec 1, 2022 17:52:05 GMT -6
November 18, 2022
Just because there is no on air drinking, doesn't mean this late night talk show host isn't going to get plastered while the camera is not on him. He will be even more wrecked because he will be drinking more in shorter amounts of time.
Andy Cohen/CNN New Year's Eve
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Post by angelashly on Dec 1, 2022 17:59:23 GMT -6
I just can't understand how people can deny a very real, terrible thing. Entire families were wiped out. How can you say otherwise? Kanye needs to go away The man said slavery was a choice
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Post by Eagles on Dec 1, 2022 18:06:15 GMT -6
I just can't understand how people can deny a very real, terrible thing. Entire families were wiped out. How can you say otherwise? Kanye needs to go away The man said slavery was a choice That part
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Post by angelashly on Dec 1, 2022 18:09:02 GMT -6
Kanye has been saying problematic damaging things for years. When he said the slavery comment it was all Kanye being Kanye and he has mental health issues.
I’m not downplaying anything he is saying now because it’s bad so very bad
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Post by Leaf 🌱 on Dec 1, 2022 18:09:34 GMT -6
I just can't understand how people can deny a very real, terrible thing. Entire families were wiped out. How can you say otherwise? Kanye needs to go away Holocaust denial was started by the Nazis and they had plans in place to destroy records and evidence. It’s part of the large antisemitic conspiracy that Jewish people are liars who made it all up and Nazis weren’t really that bad. It’s the same reason the KKK uses the “we just want to stick with our own kind” lie - it normalizes their presence in society, makes white supremacy palatable, and lets them work their way in to brainwash more people. This is why we have groups like Moms for Liberty 🤢 (I agree with you tho and understand that was likely a very rhetorical question. Just wanted to be clear tho!)
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Dec 1, 2022 18:39:47 GMT -6
I just can't understand how people can deny a very real, terrible thing. Entire families were wiped out. How can you say otherwise? Kanye needs to go away The man said slavery was a choice That's equally baffling to me.
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Post by Cher on Dec 1, 2022 18:42:35 GMT -6
Van explaining to Kanye why his words were so dangerous re: “slavery was a choice” was so bizarre. Because Van was so smart and it felt like Kanye got it. And then he went right back to his bullshit.
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Post by angelashly on Dec 1, 2022 18:43:09 GMT -6
Van explaining to Kanye why his words were so dangerous re: “slavery was a choice” was so bizarre. Because Van was so smart and it felt like Kanye got it. And then he went right back to his bullshit. Van was the best part of TMZ
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Post by Sweetjane on Dec 1, 2022 18:46:03 GMT -6
I love Ken Burns and everything he does.
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Post by Cher on Dec 1, 2022 18:58:17 GMT -6
Leaf 🌱 I don’t know what you do but I’m really impressed you work in this space. It was just my close group of girlfriends and we have been crying for the past week leading up to last night. Anything having to do with Nazis makes me feel physically sick. It’s heavy stuff.
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Post by Cher on Dec 1, 2022 19:53:47 GMT -6
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Post by Sweetjane on Dec 1, 2022 20:01:15 GMT -6
Brit Brit's house?
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Post by Bookshelves on Dec 1, 2022 20:29:22 GMT -6
I love Ken Burns and everything he does. Do you ever listen to the Smartless podcast? His episode is a little old, but I listened a couple weeks ago. It was really interesting!
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Post by Cher on Dec 1, 2022 20:37:20 GMT -6
February 28, 2018
It didn't take long for this former A list mostly television actress from an iconic role to hook up with this ex of a former A+ list mostly movie actress who is an Oscar winner/nominee. The ex provides a certain discreet service to actresses who want the sex without the boyfriend.
Jennifer Aniston/Gabrielle Aubrey/Halle Berry
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Post by bazi on Dec 1, 2022 20:42:47 GMT -6
Like when you make A.Jones visibly uncomfortable, yeah. When you’re too hateful for INFOWARS?!?! Who is left to give Kanye a platform to spew this vile shit? I guess Elon Musk.
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Post by icedcoffee on Dec 1, 2022 20:59:49 GMT -6
February 28, 2018 It didn't take long for this former A list mostly television actress from an iconic role to hook up with this ex of a former A+ list mostly movie actress who is an Oscar winner/nominee. The ex provides a certain discreet service to actresses who want the sex without the boyfriend. Jennifer Aniston/Gabrielle Aubrey/Halle Berry 👀
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Post by auburn on Dec 1, 2022 21:47:44 GMT -6
How did I recognize this immediately?
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Post by richard on Dec 1, 2022 22:16:30 GMT -6
Like when you make A.Jones visibly uncomfortable, yeah. When you’re too hateful for INFOWARS?!?! Who is left to give Kanye a platform to spew this vile shit? I guess Elon Musk. Kanye was just suspended from Twitter after posting swastikas and then posting texts from Elon telling him to stop posting swastikas. On the way out, he also tweeted that he caught Kim in bed with Chris Paul. A whole mess.
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Post by Taitai on Dec 2, 2022 2:16:18 GMT -6
February 28, 2018 It didn't take long for this former A list mostly television actress from an iconic role to hook up with this ex of a former A+ list mostly movie actress who is an Oscar winner/nominee. The ex provides a certain discreet service to actresses who want the sex without the boyfriend. Jennifer Aniston/Gabrielle Aubrey/Halle Berry I see nothing wrong with this.
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Post by Bookshelves on Dec 2, 2022 5:29:53 GMT -6
Taitai Same, although “Gabrielle” instead of “Gabriel” confused me momentarily. @enty, get a proofreader.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Dec 2, 2022 6:49:29 GMT -6
How did I recognize this immediately? My people
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