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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:05:33 GMT -6
When 45 tried to sic DOJ on the election results, he only relented when he was threatened with mass resignations (I'm still surprised that worked, TBH)
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:06:17 GMT -6
I saw earlier someone say that it was an actual committee session and not just a hearing so they could vote on things like subpoenas. Yes, and then Cheney hinted that they could vote on criminal referrals so get your popcorn
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:08:50 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Oct 13, 2022 12:09:02 GMT -6
They're doing a good job of giving us new information while reminding us of stuff we already knew to really catalyze how evil this all was eta catalyze isn't the right word. Crystalize? Synthesize? Meh. Emphasize? (I continually find myself looking for exactly the word I mean these days. I chalk it up to pandemic brain/fatigue.)
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:09:36 GMT -6
I caught that brief pause Ms Murphy put between "Pat" and "Cippoloni" in service of the innocent caption transcribers. No more Patsy Baloneys lol
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:10:22 GMT -6
Probably the first time in history "the P word" comes up in an official congressional business meeting
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Post by iruntodrink on Oct 13, 2022 12:11:58 GMT -6
I saw earlier someone say that it was an actual committee session and not just a hearing so they could vote on things like subpoenas.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:12:03 GMT -6
Texts to Lindell in December that the rioters knew that 45 was going to "call on them to march to the capitol" on J6 but that they would all pretend it was spontaneous
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Post by elle on Oct 13, 2022 12:12:06 GMT -6
I saw earlier someone say that it was an actual committee session and not just a hearing so they could vote on things like subpoenas. Yep, that was said right at the beginning of the hearing during opening remarks. This was me in that moment:
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:12:21 GMT -6
It's my boyfriend's turn!
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:14:05 GMT -6
Schiff reminding us that there were hoards of rioters who hung around outside the official "rally" area on J6 bc they didn't want to go through the magnetometers (presumably because they were armed). He says that a lot of the Secret Service communications from that day have been erased but they have obtained new information that they didn't previously have.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:15:02 GMT -6
Secret Service knew the crowd was going to get violent. FBI and local law enforcement, as well as Capitol Police, had intelligence that rioters had plans to attack the Capitol and "occupy federal buildings"
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:18:17 GMT -6
Law enforcement knew that the rioters would be armed and intended to perpetrate violence. The Deputy SecDef reacted to the intel by saying, "The greatest threat is a direct assault on the Capitol."
Rioters posted on social media things like, "Armed and ready, Mr President" and to march into the congressional chambers and "make sure they know who to fear."
A CI recorded audio of a pr.ou.d boy detailing plans to march, heavily armed, into the capital and violently overthrow the government. They posted all about it on social media. CI's implored USSS to take the threats seriously.
Social media posts forecasting a violent takeover of the Capitol in the first days of January coincided with an increase in violent hashtags trending on social media.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:19:38 GMT -6
On January 5 Secret Service was so concerned that they added ballistic vests and helmets to the list of prohibited items at the Ellipse. One agent wrote on the morning of J6 "Watching the crazies" and "this is the calm before the storm"
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:23:07 GMT -6
Robert Engel specifically told Tony Ornato (Meadows staffer) that Secret Service KNEW there were 25,000+ people watching the rally but not going through security, and that they had pepper spray, plastic riot shields, firearms. A man in a tree with a pistol on his hip. Another stopped at 14th street carrying an assault rifle.
Secret Service knew as early as the evening of January 5 that the crowd would go from the Ellipse to the Capitol. They already knew people had been arrested in possession of firearms and ammunition.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:24:46 GMT -6
oh shiiiiiiiit I am pretty sure we didn't know that before.
Jason Miller sent a text to Meadows "got the base FIRED UP" and linked to the donald dot win page saying very gruesome violent things.
Miller claims in deposition that he wasn't aware of the violent rhetoric and that if he had seen it he would have flagged it for Secret Service.
Except Secret Service knew, so team 45 had to know.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:25:22 GMT -6
gall.ows don't require elec.tricity
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:26:50 GMT -6
Secret Service was warned on Deceember 30 that there was an uptick in posts on Par.ler threatening violence against Pence if he did not stop the transition of power. Called him a "dead man walking" and threats to "storm the Capitol if he doesn't do the right thing"
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Post by iruntodrink on Oct 13, 2022 12:27:11 GMT -6
Jesus, people are fucking crazy. This is why I'm so hesitant for Their Leader to actually go to jail.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:27:31 GMT -6
Arrogant asshole kept the doors open to the Oval so he could hear his minions yelling from blocks away IN JANUARY
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:27:53 GMT -6
Jesus, people are fucking crazy. This is why I'm so hesitant for Their Leader to actually go to jail. he will never see the inside of a jail
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:29:08 GMT -6
Brief recess
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:33:28 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:34:47 GMT -6
Open carry is completely illegal in the District so they should have had people out there detaining all of these guys that they KNEW planned to get violent and could SEE were armed, illegally.
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Post by LaRo422 on Oct 13, 2022 12:44:58 GMT -6
I know we're all on the same page, but almost 2 years later, and I still look back on that day in total shock. I know people that defend that mess are completely full of shit, but this was a full blown assault on our country. I can't believe I watched it live. The whole thing is just wild, and the fact that more people don't watch the hearings or are up in arms about it is completely shocking to me.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:45:08 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:47:13 GMT -6
Aguilar: attendees were told on donald dot win to bring "180 rounds minimumum" for your first gun and "at least 50 rounds" for your backup gun
It is pure luck that this wasn't an absolute bloodbath
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2022 12:48:36 GMT -6
Amazing. The crowd cheers for law enforcement right before bear spraying them.
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Post by iruntodrink on Oct 13, 2022 12:49:28 GMT -6
Aguilar: attendees were told on donald dot win to bring "180 rounds minimumum" for your first gun and "at least 50 rounds" for your backup gun It is pure luck that this wasn't an absolute bloodbath still shocked.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 13, 2022 12:49:40 GMT -6
I'm here but cant liveblog I seriously think 1/6 has scrambled my brain. I still get the heart in my throat feeling at images. and the background stuff doesnt help because it could have been stopped and people KEPT QUIET.
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