teraiin
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Post by teraiin on Oct 22, 2021 19:27:29 GMT -6
Whoops sorry I haven’t read this thread in awhile.
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mb3
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Post by mb3 on Oct 22, 2021 20:05:46 GMT -6
Brian Entin is reporting on Twitter that the police have confirmed they had cameras outside the house and in neighbors backyards. They also added more cameras once he disappeared. It’s sort of moot now that his remains have been found I guess, but what a mess that they were watching and still lost him. Wasn’t he already gone though?
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teraiin
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Post by teraiin on Oct 22, 2021 20:16:12 GMT -6
Brian Entin is reporting on Twitter that the police have confirmed they had cameras outside the house and in neighbors backyards. They also added more cameras once he disappeared. It’s sort of moot now that his remains have been found I guess, but what a mess that they were watching and still lost him. Wasn’t he already gone though? He’s saying they had cameras up BEFORE he was gone. Then they added more after he disappeared ETA: at least that’s what it sounded like he implied and what everyone assumed. I should disclaimer that I don’t use Twitter lol ETA 2:
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Oct 22, 2021 20:30:21 GMT -6
This is why I haven't been following much honestly. Not to mention all the POC missing no one hears about I am once again not trying to shame anyone's interest (here I am as well) but the hubaloo around this case is really weird. Everyone listen to the Fall Line and the Missing and Murdered podcasts. Those are some stories. I would really like to study why some stories stick and some don't. It's more than race but I know race can be a part of it. 🤷🏻♀️
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sudsy
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Post by sudsy on Oct 22, 2021 20:37:25 GMT -6
The mundane nature is the whole point - law enforcement still fails to recognize partner abuse as a level on the murder ladder. Instead of wild conspiracy theories, let’s realize how MUNDANE this is and recognize patterns to prevention. Including believing women when they report domestic violence. Clueing in when you pull a crying girl over and something is off with the man. This story happens every day. That’s the problem. A Bundy is one in a million. A Laundrie? Dime a dozen and that’s what we should be talking about. What makes me sad is that the cops were with her and essentially she was deemed the "crazy" one.... They could have saved her. I can’t even begin to describe how often this happens. Too. Fucking. Often. Police have zero training in domestic violence, which is super sad given the sheer number of calls made in one day alone. But I digress.
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Oct 22, 2021 20:44:35 GMT -6
What makes me sad is that the cops were with her and essentially she was deemed the "crazy" one.... They could have saved her. I can’t even begin to describe how often this happens. Too. Fucking. Often. Police have zero training in domestic violence, which is super sad given the sheer number of calls made in one day alone. But I digress. Don't forget if you mention bipolar or a mental illness they're like 🙄
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sudsy
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Post by sudsy on Oct 22, 2021 20:46:10 GMT -6
I can’t even begin to describe how often this happens. Too. Fucking. Often. Police have zero training in domestic violence, which is super sad given the sheer number of calls made in one day alone. But I digress. Don't forget if you mention bipolar or a mental illness they're like 🙄 Or that their solution sometimes is to “just get out of his way next time”. I won’t tell you how I know that.
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Post by lifesaverz on Oct 23, 2021 16:05:23 GMT -6
An autopsy done on BL's remains on Friday was inconclusive & unable to find a cause of death. Given that the remains were described as "bones", this makes sense. The remains have now been sent to an anthropologist for further investigation.
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sudsy
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Post by sudsy on Oct 23, 2021 16:46:04 GMT -6
An autopsy done on BL's remains on Friday was inconclusive & unable to find a cause of death. Given that the remains were described as "bones", this makes sense. The remains have now been sent to an anthropologist for further investigation. Maybe I’m just not very educated in human decomposition. Wouldn’t it take a lot to be left to only a skeleton with no additional tissue? It was only a month tops that he could have been dead. Water alone wouldn’t leave you a skeleton. Are they thinking he was eaten by animals?
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Post by GhoatMonket on Oct 23, 2021 17:13:56 GMT -6
An autopsy done on BL's remains on Friday was inconclusive & unable to find a cause of death. Given that the remains were described as "bones", this makes sense. The remains have now been sent to an anthropologist for further investigation. Maybe I’m just not very educated in human decomposition. Wouldn’t it take a lot to be left to only a skeleton with no additional tissue? It was only a month tops that he could have been dead. Water alone wouldn’t leave you a skeleton. Are they thinking he was eaten by animals? The temp of the water would be in favor of breeding bacteria for up to 6 weeks. Add in critters having a snack here and there, I can see there being a small enough amount to consider it skeletal. I would think if a gator at him that the bones wouldn't be all in one place? Or maybe they would. I've already done the Googling I am willing to do on this topic.
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hawkward
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Post by hawkward on Oct 23, 2021 17:19:09 GMT -6
An autopsy done on BL's remains on Friday was inconclusive & unable to find a cause of death. Given that the remains were described as "bones", this makes sense. The remains have now been sent to an anthropologist for further investigation. Maybe I’m just not very educated in human decomposition. Wouldn’t it take a lot to be left to only a skeleton with no additional tissue? It was only a month tops that he could have been dead. Water alone wouldn’t leave you a skeleton. Are they thinking he was eaten by animals? Based on my newly acquired Google MD, conditions were “favorable for fast decomposition of soft tissues.”
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Post by wildflower on Oct 23, 2021 17:21:52 GMT -6
Maybe I’m just not very educated in human decomposition. Wouldn’t it take a lot to be left to only a skeleton with no additional tissue? It was only a month tops that he could have been dead. Water alone wouldn’t leave you a skeleton. Are they thinking he was eaten by animals? Based on my newly acquired Google MD, conditions were “favorable for fast decomposition of soft tissues.” I know 0 about human decomposition. But his body was in a warm, wet, buggy area. Between all that and bacteria and birds of prey... I'm not surprised the remains are skeletal.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Oct 23, 2021 17:30:30 GMT -6
Maybe I’m just not very educated in human decomposition. Wouldn’t it take a lot to be left to only a skeleton with no additional tissue? It was only a month tops that he could have been dead. Water alone wouldn’t leave you a skeleton. Are they thinking he was eaten by animals? Based on my newly acquired Google MD, conditions were “favorable for fast decomposition of soft tissues.” Information we should all file for later. And at least it is on your search history and not ours. Except it basically is on mine. Friendly reminder- don't go into the PubMed study on this.
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Post by microworm on Oct 23, 2021 17:48:23 GMT -6
Based on my newly acquired Google MD, conditions were “favorable for fast decomposition of soft tissues.” Information we should all file for later. And at least it is on your search history and not ours. Except it basically is on mine. Friendly reminder- don't go into the PubMed study on this. I understand why it was skeletal but I'm wondering if it was intact. I would think if animals like birds, gators, and whatever type of carnivorous animal that lives in FL were the ones to eat his soft tissue, there would be arms or legs dragged off somewhere.
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Post by microworm on Oct 23, 2021 17:51:58 GMT -6
Speaking of PubMed. I wonder what I could get away with in terms of searches that seem normal. My life is bacteria, specifically problematic bacteria for the medical arena, but maybe it isnt a stretch for me to research bacterial human body decomposition?
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Post by microworm on Oct 23, 2021 17:55:15 GMT -6
Though I think IT would be more concerned with my SM usage than research about body decomp
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hawkward
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Post by hawkward on Oct 23, 2021 17:58:03 GMT -6
Information we should all file for later. And at least it is on your search history and not ours. Except it basically is on mine. Friendly reminder- don't go into the PubMed study on this. I understand why it was skeletal but I'm wondering if it was intact. I would think if animals like birds, gators, and whatever type of carnivorous animal that lives in FL were the ones to eat his soft tissue, there would be arms or legs dragged off somewhere. I’m trying to find if they’ve said anything about the condition of the bones because predatory marks are pretty obvious. I haven’t seen anything yet.
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cnf
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Post by cnf on Oct 23, 2021 18:43:45 GMT -6
Based on my newly acquired Google MD, conditions were “favorable for fast decomposition of soft tissues.” Information we should all file for later. And at least it is on your search history and not ours. Except it basically is on mine. Friendly reminder- don't go into the PubMed study on this. Well, now that you've said it twice, I kind of want to read the PubMed article...
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Leaf 🌱
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Post by Leaf 🌱 on Oct 23, 2021 20:18:22 GMT -6
Information we should all file for later. And at least it is on your search history and not ours. Except it basically is on mine. Friendly reminder- don't go into the PubMed study on this. I understand why it was skeletal but I'm wondering if it was intact. I would think if animals like birds, gators, and whatever type of carnivorous animal that lives in FL were the ones to eat his soft tissue, there would be arms or legs dragged off somewhere. If the area was flooded for a long period of time then it could be fish as well.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Oct 23, 2021 20:32:34 GMT -6
Information we should all file for later. And at least it is on your search history and not ours. Except it basically is on mine. Friendly reminder- don't go into the PubMed study on this. Well, now that you've said it twice, I kind of want to read the PubMed article... There's pictures. They are thumbnails, but scroll fast. Unless you're into that.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Oct 23, 2021 20:33:39 GMT -6
Well, now that you've said it twice, I kind of want to read the PubMed article... There's pictures. They are thumbnails, but scroll fast. Unless you're into that. It goes with the season, but no thank you.
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Post by microworm on Oct 23, 2021 20:37:26 GMT -6
I understand why it was skeletal but I'm wondering if it was intact. I would think if animals like birds, gators, and whatever type of carnivorous animal that lives in FL were the ones to eat his soft tissue, there would be arms or legs dragged off somewhere. If the area was flooded for a long period of time then it could be fish as well. Gross. Yea.
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cnf
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Post by cnf on Oct 23, 2021 21:07:42 GMT -6
Well, now that you've said it twice, I kind of want to read the PubMed article... There's pictures. They are thumbnails, but scroll fast. Unless you're into that. Mmm. Yeah. Probably gonna pass then.
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STP
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Post by STP on Oct 24, 2021 12:56:44 GMT -6
I highly recommend “Stiff” by Mary Roach if you’re interested in dead body stuff.
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sudsy
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Post by sudsy on Oct 24, 2021 14:10:01 GMT -6
I highly recommend “Stiff” by Mary Roach if you’re interested in dead body stuff. It’s one of my favorite books. Also I clearly did not retain very much information from it lol
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 24, 2021 14:37:40 GMT -6
I highly recommend “Stiff” by Mary Roach if you’re interested in dead body stuff. Love this book, but I was also the kid that volunteered at a coats for kids event at a medical school and when my dad picked me up couldn't stop talking about the cadaver lab they took us through after as a treat, and how I held a guy's leg and his liver. Was just like a pig in shit.
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Post by RunsforWineandCarbs on Oct 24, 2021 18:08:57 GMT -6
Vultures and other animals will eat the body.plus it was under water for weeks, so decomp was well in progress.
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Post by Skewball on Oct 25, 2021 10:54:56 GMT -6
If anyone follows Nicole Angemi on Instagram @mrs_angemi, I am sure she will talk about it. Maybe she has already. Most of her content is now in her "Gross Room" section and you have to pay for that. She regularly talks about current cases in the media.
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brux
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Post by brux on Oct 26, 2021 12:01:04 GMT -6
Josh Taylor, the public information officer for the department, told WINK that police began tracking the 23-year-old's movements soon after his fiancée, Gabby Petito, was reported missing.
Taylor said police had surveillance cameras set up around the Laundries' home, intent on keeping a close eye on Brian, who returned home on Sept. 1 from a road trip with Petito, alone.
However, that plan failed.
Investigators tasked with keeping tabs on Laundrie apparently saw him leave his parents' house in his grey Mustang on Sept 13. Two days later, when the car returned, they mistook Laundrie's mother for him. "They're kind of built similarly," Taylor said.
At a press conference on Sept. 16, officials told reporters they knew where Laundrie was, and that they were confident he was in his parents' home.
"That was certainly news to us that they had not seen him," Taylor said. "We thought that we [had] seen Brian initially come back into that home on that Wednesday. But, we now know that that wasn't true."
Taylor alleges that Roberta drove Brian's car back, and was wearing a baseball hat at the time.
"They had returned from the park with that Mustang," Taylor says. "So, who does that? Right? Like, if you think your son's missing since Tuesday, you're going to bring his car back to the home? So it didn't make sense that anyone would do that if he wasn't there. So the individual getting out with a baseball cap we thought was Brian."
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Post by CestLaVie on Oct 26, 2021 12:16:34 GMT -6
that's interesting. so his mom did intend to throw the police off his trail?
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