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Post by Uncaripswife on Sept 9, 2021 12:52:51 GMT -6
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Sept 9, 2021 13:37:39 GMT -6
Lol they had this on the kids place radio this morning and DD got really serious saying she had to look for the zebras! 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 14:02:23 GMT -6
I hope the news alert about Biden mandating vaccines for all federal workers holds true and more states, corporations, and businesses small to large take the same approach. Clearly we are not getting where we need to be with voluntary compliance. I have done my part, plus extra credit, for the group project. I am done and need to return to my regularly scheduled life. What I read isn’t just federal workers. It’s across the board if you have more than 100 employees ans if you don’t comply it’s a 14,000 fine each time from OSHA
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Post by willow on Sept 9, 2021 14:35:20 GMT -6
I hope the news alert about Biden mandating vaccines for all federal workers holds true and more states, corporations, and businesses small to large take the same approach. Clearly we are not getting where we need to be with voluntary compliance. I have done my part, plus extra credit, for the group project. I am done and need to return to my regularly scheduled life. What I read isn’t just federal workers. It’s across the board if you have more than 100 employees ans if you don’t comply it’s a 14,000 fine each time from OSHA I look forward to seeing the shit hit the fan with all the anti-vaxxers that this will likely affect.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 14:37:36 GMT -6
What I read isn’t just federal workers. It’s across the board if you have more than 100 employees ans if you don’t comply it’s a 14,000 fine each time from OSHA I look forward to seeing the shit hit the fan with all the anti-vaxxers that this will likely affect. I’m excited but terrified. I’m a risk adverse people pleaser so It’s hard not to think of the repercussions that could happen.
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Post by willow on Sept 9, 2021 14:43:55 GMT -6
I look forward to seeing the shit hit the fan with all the anti-vaxxers that this will likely affect. I’m excited but terrified. I’m a risk adverse people pleaser so It’s hard not to think of the repercussions that could happen. It means fatpony and my employer would be part of the required group and I am very pleased to think of my one unvaxxed coworker being forced to get it. I get what you're saying though. It certainly could get ugly in some places. I think I have passed the point of caring though.
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Post by richard on Sept 9, 2021 14:44:29 GMT -6
Ooh yes. Bring it.
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Post by athn64 on Sept 9, 2021 14:45:11 GMT -6
I’m excited but terrified. I’m a risk adverse people pleaser so It’s hard not to think of the repercussions that could happen. It means fatpony and my employer would be part of the required group and I am very pleased to think of my one unvaxxed coworker being forced to get it. I get what you're saying though. It certainly could get ugly in some places. I think I have passed the point of caring though. Its vax or testing, though right? So they could just test weekly. Of course, my mom has a colleague who is crying discrimination because she doesn't want to test or vax.
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Post by richard on Sept 9, 2021 14:45:30 GMT -6
I think that mandate is vaccines OR weekly testing. I have my doubts about the implementation of the weekly testing. But might as well try!
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Post by dc2london on Sept 9, 2021 14:50:03 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Sept 9, 2021 14:51:41 GMT -6
I’m excited but terrified. I’m a risk adverse people pleaser so It’s hard not to think of the repercussions that could happen. It means fatpony and my employer would be part of the required group and I am very pleased to think of my one unvaxxed coworker being forced to get it. I get what you're saying though. It certainly could get ugly in some places. I think I have passed the point of caring though. The part that gives me pause is that the venn diagram between people who adamantly refuse the vaccine and people who think it's appropriate to intimidate others with deadly force or threats thereof is a circle
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Post by willow on Sept 9, 2021 14:55:54 GMT -6
It means fatpony and my employer would be part of the required group and I am very pleased to think of my one unvaxxed coworker being forced to get it. I get what you're saying though. It certainly could get ugly in some places. I think I have passed the point of caring though. Its vax or testing, though right? So they could just test weekly. Of course, my mom has a colleague who is crying discrimination because she doesn't want to test or vax. I think for private businesses, yes. What is unclear to me is whether the government employees bit is only federal or if all government employees have to get vaxxed and don’t get the testing option.
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Post by willow on Sept 9, 2021 14:56:27 GMT -6
It means fatpony and my employer would be part of the required group and I am very pleased to think of my one unvaxxed coworker being forced to get it. I get what you're saying though. It certainly could get ugly in some places. I think I have passed the point of caring though. The part that gives me pause is that the venn diagram between people who adamantly refuse the vaccine and people who think it's appropriate to intimidate others with deadly force or threats thereof is a circle Yeah I would hope the administration is already on the lookout and is aware of potential violence from this — crossing my fingers anyway.
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Post by richard on Sept 9, 2021 14:59:56 GMT -6
Its vax or testing, though right? So they could just test weekly. Of course, my mom has a colleague who is crying discrimination because she doesn't want to test or vax. I think for private businesses, yes. What is unclear to me is whether the government employees bit is only federal or if all government employees have to get vaxxed and don’t get the testing option. I think he can only do federal. This is what I read: "Biden announced back in July that federal employees must be vaccinated or tested weekly. But that mandate has now been widened, with Biden signing an executive order to require all federal branch executive workers to be vaccinated, as well as contractors who may work for the federal government through another employer." www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-federal-workers
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:04:33 GMT -6
Biden’s live. 175M Americans are vax’d. 80M aren’t and everyone is pissed off they are ruining things.
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:06:06 GMT -6
Delta spread like wildfire; this now a pandemic of the unvax’d despite every opportunity to get vax’d. Certain Elected officials are making it worse. Unacceptable.
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:08:37 GMT -6
Can’t allow the actions of 25% of Americans to ruin it for the rest.
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:11:01 GMT -6
1. Increase vax rates. FDA has approved removing that argument. Not about freedoms or personal choice. It’s about protecting those you love and work with. 100+ employee employers need to vax or show negative test 1x/week. Shade to Fox News who requires vax.
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:13:27 GMT -6
All hospitals, home health care workers need to be vax’d.
2. EO to require all federal employees and contractors be vax’d
Paid time off to be vaccinated mandatory.
Should affect 2/3rds of all workers;
appeals to large venue operators to require vax or negative tests to gain entry.
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Post by jkjacq on Sept 9, 2021 15:13:52 GMT -6
"and even Fox News"
SNORT
that was a wee shady Joe
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:16:37 GMT -6
Family and primary care docs need to reach out to their unvax’d patients.
2. Protect vax’d ppl - understands anger and anxiety about break through. 1 confirmed case /5k per day. Boosters will be req’d but CDC and FDA will decide details. We will have enough for everyone
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:18:56 GMT -6
3. Schools. He’s a grandpa. He gets it. 12+ need to be vax’d ; they get lots of vaccines. 11 & under: at home everyone around kids should be vax’d. That protects kids. No shortcuts for safety but he will support with full resources to get approval as safe and quickly as possible.
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Post by dc2london on Sept 9, 2021 15:19:14 GMT -6
Oh yeah POTUS doesn't have control over state government employees. And I'm sure they know nutters will flip out but I'm not sure there's much they can do on the federal level.
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:20:21 GMT -6
Schools: masks, distance, ventilation dummies. Teachers should be fully vax’d. All head start employees need to be vax’d. All governors should require vax for all school personnel.
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:21:32 GMT -6
Bad governors: bullies. If they won’t help President will step around them through dept of Ed. Withheld pay will be covered by feds
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:24:14 GMT -6
Testing & masks:
Testing needs to be more available. Defense production act for rapid tests. Amazon/Walmart/Kroger will sell at cost for next 3 months starting next week
Expand free testing at 10k pharmacies across country.
Masks: TSA will double fines on travels who refuse to mask & show respect. The anger on tv is ugly and wrong
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:25:28 GMT -6
5. Economy. We can’t let unvax’d ruin it. Disaster loan programs to be expanded, up to $2m eta loan. Small business help
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Post by mirabelle on Sept 9, 2021 15:25:46 GMT -6
Getting v comfortable with how uncomfortable JB and society is making it to remain unvaccinated. Looking forward to seeing this all roll out.
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Post by trueblue on Sept 9, 2021 15:28:28 GMT -6
6. Surge response teams: in 18 states. Military health teams will be doubled and increasing meds recommended by REAL doctors. Monoclonal antibodies shipment rates will go up 50%
Recognizes disparities with black and brown communities.
Global fight: donated 140m vaccines so far. More than anyone else. We are shipping 500m Pfizer to lower income countries. More coming later this month.
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Post by elle on Sept 9, 2021 16:08:26 GMT -6
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