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Post by icedcoffee on Jul 30, 2021 16:11:43 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Jul 30, 2021 16:14:20 GMT -6
I understand this can be a sensitive topic so I'm not trying to hurtful by asking details, but who is at fault for these situations? Are the adoption agencies the ones taking advantage of the birth parents? And people like Angelina knowing what's happening but still doing it anyway? It’s complicated, but kind of a little bit all around with some blame on some countries too. There is a body of laws (Hague Convention) that governs international adoptions. It’s supposed to be the checks and balances to avoid child trafficking. But not all countries are accredited under Hague. I can’t speak to the countries where Angelina’s children are from. I believe Vietnam is Hague compliant but don’t quote me on that. Regardless of the laws, there is just a lot of corruption in the system. Money is involved, so…you know… The common problematic scenario that I have read about is that many of these orphanages exist to serve multiple needs. So they have children that are truly without guardians. Here we would have those children in non familial foster care, they are in orphanage in many other places. But they also serve families where they can’t afford to or physically take care of their children and that may be long term or just short term. So again here we would have those children in familial or non familial foster care but there would be a path to reunification. What happens is an organization can make an arrangement with a parent/guardian to temporarily care for a child and then go ahead and proceed with an international adoption for the same child. Either under coercion of the guardian or flat out deceit. And it seems like wealthier adopters tend to provide a bigger incentive for orphanage leaders to do this sort of thing. Who knows what these celebrities are promising them - I’ll fund a new facility and your operating budget for the next 5 years - that can make a desperate person who is trying to keep a roof and food over hundreds of kids heads do bad things. Also there could be pressure from a celeb type (or really any adopter) to match with the “right” child - meaning no health issues or disabilities and younger or a certain gender. Anyways, that’s one example but there are lots of other issues. Savior complex, no connection or intention of maintaining culture, etc. I’m not against international adoption - I don’t want to come off like that. But it’s problematic. But so is domestic adoption and so is foster care. It’s just hard when a celebrity does it because they make it look “easy” and inspire others to go the same route. And maybe they did it corruptly and maybe they get away with it because $$.
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Post by icedcoffee on Jul 30, 2021 16:41:27 GMT -6
Thank you jaygee! That was very informative
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Post by Cher on Jul 30, 2021 17:52:29 GMT -6
July 19, 2021
This A- list mostly movie actress is calling in favors and spending tons of money to try and get award season buzz well in advance of award season. The thing is, her movie sucks and she might not even make the top 15 or so finalists for the biggest award.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 30, 2021 17:52:33 GMT -6
I understand this can be a sensitive topic so I'm not trying to hurtful by asking details, but who is at fault for these situations? Are the adoption agencies the ones taking advantage of the birth parents? And people like Angelina knowing what's happening but still doing it anyway? There’s a lot problems with international adoptions. It’s why many countries Americans adopt from have increased their restrictions. There’s little to no oversight in foreign adoptions. Lots of abuse, death, and exploitation to name a few. One IG famous couple tried to adopt a kid, and were told the child couldn’t be on social media for a year. They canceled the adoption because they didn’t realize this organization wouldn’t let them post the pics of kid for it’s first year in the US. It can be all the above. Communities “encouraged” to give up children, kidnapping, etc for the money. (With all these DNA companies, families are now finding their child wasn’t orphaned, but taken) Organizations can be predatory, and the families these children go to can be complicit/look the other way depending on how desperate they are to have the child. Someone with Angelina’s connections to the UN, and UNICEF, you’d think she know the best companies to adopt from, and would have the ability to choose the most upstanding one. She was filming (Tomb Raider I believe) and saw her oldest, and just wanted him. (If I remember correctly) We can't discuss international adoption without mentioning that piece of work, Myka Stauffer who intentionally chose a baby with a disability for blog content. When the child who she moved to the US became too difficult she very much legally found the kid a new home. People have FB posts to find transfer custody of kids they brought to the US which can lead to trafficking and abuse as the new family does not have to be screened.
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Post by Cher on Jul 30, 2021 18:32:22 GMT -6
Topless Britney IG is back.
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Post by brux on Jul 30, 2021 18:33:33 GMT -6
You can’t convince me that Britney doesn’t have control of her own IG.
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Post by brux on Jul 30, 2021 18:34:42 GMT -6
Is she…delayed?…mentally?
She’s very immature.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 30, 2021 18:39:04 GMT -6
Is topless Brit the same day? This is so bizarre and repetitive.
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Post by jaygee on Jul 30, 2021 18:49:33 GMT -6
There’s a lot problems with international adoptions. It’s why many countries Americans adopt from have increased their restrictions. There’s little to no oversight in foreign adoptions. Lots of abuse, death, and exploitation to name a few. One IG famous couple tried to adopt a kid, and were told the child couldn’t be on social media for a year. They canceled the adoption because they didn’t realize this organization wouldn’t let them post the pics of kid for it’s first year in the US. It can be all the above. Communities “encouraged” to give up children, kidnapping, etc for the money. (With all these DNA companies, families are now finding their child wasn’t orphaned, but taken) Organizations can be predatory, and the families these children go to can be complicit/look the other way depending on how desperate they are to have the child. Someone with Angelina’s connections to the UN, and UNICEF, you’d think she know the best companies to adopt from, and would have the ability to choose the most upstanding one. She was filming (Tomb Raider I believe) and saw her oldest, and just wanted him. (If I remember correctly) We can't discuss international adoption without mentioning that piece of work, Myka Stauffer who intentionally chose a baby with a disability for blog content. When the child who she moved to the US became too difficult she very much legally found the kid a new home. People have FB posts to find transfer custody of kids they brought to the US which can lead to trafficking and abuse as the new family does not have to be screened. Oh that case made my blood boil. She used that kid as a prop.
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Post by jaygee on Jul 30, 2021 18:53:24 GMT -6
Her hair is so bad. I know that’s mean but what is happening?
Also, her IG looks like an old lady stumbling around the internet. What is with the avocado toast picture. It’s like social media from 10 years ago.
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Post by jaygee on Jul 30, 2021 18:57:12 GMT -6
Oh my god. That painting video. What is happening?
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Post by miawallace on Jul 30, 2021 19:12:02 GMT -6
Whoever edited the video from The Ring, Is editing Britney’s video posts.
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Post by jaygee on Jul 30, 2021 19:37:07 GMT -6
Whoever edited the video from The Ring, Is editing Britney’s video posts. Do you think if we watch it too much we will be lured into a cult?
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Post by Cheshie6 on Jul 30, 2021 19:37:55 GMT -6
Is she…delayed?…mentally? She’s very immature. People want stars to be who they were when they first became famous. She started young. I feel like a lot of stars seem to get stunted especially with super stardom.
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Post by brux on Jul 30, 2021 19:46:27 GMT -6
Whoever edited the video from The Ring, Is editing Britney’s video posts. Do you think if we watch it too much we will be lured into a cult? would join willingly.
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Post by brux on Jul 30, 2021 19:47:10 GMT -6
Bieber is a dick to his wife and Britney is a Martian on IG.
Same childhood life, same adult life.
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Post by SweetPotato on Jul 30, 2021 19:47:39 GMT -6
Whoever edited the video from The Ring, Is editing Britney’s video posts. Do you think if we watch it too much we will be lured into a cult? I think it’s too late for us
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Post by icedcoffee on Jul 30, 2021 19:50:26 GMT -6
You can’t convince me that Britney doesn’t have control of her own IG. Yeah I'm coming around to this. Its...a lot
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Post by icedcoffee on Jul 30, 2021 19:51:04 GMT -6
Whoever edited the video from The Ring, Is editing Britney’s video posts. Omg i said last night it reminded me of the ring 🤣🤣
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Post by miawallace on Jul 30, 2021 19:52:42 GMT -6
Whoever edited the video from The Ring, Is editing Britney’s video posts. Do you think if we watch it too much we will be lured into a cult? Or die in 7 days.
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Post by Cher on Jul 30, 2021 20:11:35 GMT -6
I feel like since it’s all from the same clip makes it shady AF.
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Post by laurie on Jul 30, 2021 20:22:01 GMT -6
I feel like since it’s all from the same clip makes it shady AF. I agree. It feels like someone is doing her dirty.
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Post by icedcoffee on Jul 30, 2021 20:50:24 GMT -6
I feel like since it’s all from the same clip makes it shady AF. Aaand now I can circle back to this again. I just wanna know what's going on!
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Post by blurnette989 on Jul 31, 2021 3:53:02 GMT -6
I read an article when Luca came out about how the animators were pissed that their movies that they spent years working on were released for free while a Marvel movie and Cruella were premium movies. It is interesting the ones they choose to release as premium. Pixar films vs Disney studios is the deciding factor i think.
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Post by Cher on Jul 31, 2021 6:44:44 GMT -6
July 19, 2021
This makeup company had a good run and everyone was fooled into thinking they were amazing. The problem is they treated their employees like crap and couldn't afford to pay anyone a decent wage because they promised so much money to the reality family.
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Post by Bubly on Jul 31, 2021 8:03:11 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Jul 31, 2021 8:50:58 GMT -6
Per our earlier conversation this made me chuckle.
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Post by hardlyluck on Jul 31, 2021 14:56:30 GMT -6
I keep accidentally wandering into the Love is Blind thread. Apparently I have trained my brain to only scan looking for the word “blind” when I’m on this board 😬😂
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Post by thatgolfb on Jul 31, 2021 15:13:57 GMT -6
I read an article when Luca came out about how the animators were pissed that their movies that they spent years working on were released for free while a Marvel movie and Cruella were premium movies. It is interesting the ones they choose to release as premium. I had wondered about this when Luca came out!
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