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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 9:46:32 GMT -6
angelashly , I was shocked to read it was about a 35% dip in viewership. Yes!
I think it is a mixture between Chris not being on and people being mad about that and I think the producers wanted Katie to be a fan favorite and made that their thing like Fetch, but if they actually paid attention to Bachelor Nation she was not a fan favorite.
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Post by tarheelmom on Jun 9, 2021 9:56:52 GMT -6
Did we know he's from Raleigh? I mean I knew he went to Wake Forest but I don't remember Raleigh. I realize this isn't the part to focus on but my husband went to college there and we went to PNC a lot and for some reason it has me 👀 The show seemed to focus more on him living in NYC, but the local news was all about the Raleigh native being the bachelor.
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Post by pitchslap on Jun 9, 2021 9:57:18 GMT -6
Did we know he's from Raleigh? I mean I knew he went to Wake Forest but I don't remember Raleigh. I realize this isn't the part to focus on but my husband went to college there and we went to PNC a lot and for some reason it has me 👀 Yes he talked about it on his season. He claims NY mostly though Huh... I wonder what I was doing during that time
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 9:58:10 GMT -6
Yes he talked about it on his season. He claims NY mostly though Huh... I wonder what I was doing during that time I am surprised I remember. I feel like I read my book through half his episodes.
Probably more like through 80% of his episodes.
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Post by pitchslap on Jun 9, 2021 9:58:19 GMT -6
Did we know he's from Raleigh? I mean I knew he went to Wake Forest but I don't remember Raleigh. I realize this isn't the part to focus on but my husband went to college there and we went to PNC a lot and for some reason it has me 👀 The show seemed to focus more on him living in NYC, but the local news was all about the Raleigh native being the bachelor. I live far away now and our focus was on Michelle since she's local to me.
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Post by auburn on Jun 9, 2021 10:23:05 GMT -6
I read last night that Chris Harrison got $50 million dollars. DAMN.
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Post by pitchslap on Jun 9, 2021 10:32:17 GMT -6
I read last night that Chris Harrison got $50 million dollars. DAMN. Holy crap. The things he must know!!
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 11:02:13 GMT -6
I read last night that Chris Harrison got $50 million dollars. DAMN. Holy crap. The things he must know!! I brought it up in the blinds, but Chris has been there from the start and knows everything.
He was there with the whole Corrine sexual assault investigation He was there when Diggy's group was talking about a known racist in the house during Rachel's season (I guarantee it wasn't the first time either) He knows the " casting" secrets He knows so much that would blow up the series and it is really ABC's bread and butter, but they need to replace Fleiss and go back to the original
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Post by mischief on Jun 9, 2021 11:11:56 GMT -6
angelashly , I was shocked to read it was about a 35% dip in viewership. Yes!
I think it is a mixture between Chris not being on and people being mad about that and I think the producers wanted Katie to be a fan favorite and made that their thing like Fetch, but if they actually paid attention to Bachelor Nation she was not a fan favorite.
Is she terrible? I thought she was funny. But I am a sucker for dirty innuendos and puns. While also knowing that reality personas aren't always genuine.
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Post by abbandkaa on Jun 9, 2021 11:12:15 GMT -6
WHOA that reduction in viewership can't just be that Chris isn't the host. No waaaaaaaaaaay. I mean people aren't excited about Katie, and BN is problematic. It can't all be a reflection of him not hosting - that wasn't a surprise. I did notice that of the comments of support after the news dropped that Chris was out, none were from non-POC. I haven't looked again today, but as of last night, none. angelashly, when you talk about Diggy, all I picture is Rev Run's son, haha
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 11:12:38 GMT -6
mischief, Bachelor In Paradise that will air right after Katie's season is amazing summer program and Michelle's season after this I feel will be good because Michelle is amazing All this to say don't give up if this season isn't great.
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Post by mischief on Jun 9, 2021 11:13:07 GMT -6
Although I might turn it into a drinking game and do shots every time I hear the words "sex-positive" in each episode.
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Post by mischief on Jun 9, 2021 11:15:50 GMT -6
mischief, Bachelor In Paradise that will air right after Katie's season is amazing summer program and Michelle's season after this I feel will be good because Michelle is amazing All this to say don't give up if this season isn't great. Oh I have watched much worse for less for much longer Lol. I am not completely in the dark about the Bachelor powerhouse, I've skimmed the gossip. But I've never actually committed to watching a season. Bit I am here for it. But is Katie awful? 😬
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 11:19:18 GMT -6
Yes!
I think it is a mixture between Chris not being on and people being mad about that and I think the producers wanted Katie to be a fan favorite and made that their thing like Fetch, but if they actually paid attention to Bachelor Nation she was not a fan favorite.
Is she terrible? I thought she was funny. But I am a sucker for dirty innuendos and puns. While also knowing that reality personas aren't always genuine. I don't know that she is horrible and she at least has a personality, but the last season was all about mean girls and how Katie called them out, but she was originally one. People who like her said that she wasn't, but she was until she supposedly found out why the girl they were mean girling first was leaving. I find it suspicious that she was the one to go up there and talk to her after being mean, but I think at that point she was already in the sights of the producers to be Bachelorette due to people liking her "free spirit" at first and had her clean up her act.
She also said something along the lines that the girls who were mean girls and were getting hate on SM were receiving Karma but it was mostly the Black women getting the most heat and actual factual death threats and racist comments. Again her fans said that she wasn't saying death threats and racisim was ok or karma which I get, but it is those types of things people let go that I can't.
Whew I guess I like her less than I thought
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 11:20:15 GMT -6
mischief, to really answer your question I don't think she is terrible, I will be watching, and I hope she grows on me more and I am wrong about her.
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Post by mischief on Jun 9, 2021 11:27:21 GMT -6
mischief, to really answer your question I don't think she is terrible, I will be watching, and I hope she grows on me more and I am wrong about her. That's absolutely fair. Well hopefully she doesn't turn out to be a genuine piece of shit because that would be disappointing and I know it's happened before.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 11:30:36 GMT -6
mischief , to really answer your question I don't think she is terrible, I will be watching, and I hope she grows on me more and I am wrong about her. That's absolutely fair. Well hopefully she doesn't turn out to be a genuine piece of shit because that would be disappointing and I know it's happened before. She has been very supportive of Chris Harrison being fired and all the women, especially all of the BIPOC so she gained some points with me on that.
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Post by auburn on Jun 9, 2021 13:53:20 GMT -6
Katie seems like a lot of fun based on her social media.
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Post by jaidit on Jun 9, 2021 14:28:16 GMT -6
Peeks in - ive watched almost every season of this show ever 😬
I wasn’t prepared to like Katie, but I was surprised in a good way with her premiere. She seems a lot quicker to say what she wants, she swears, she immediately says who she likes, etc. Some past contestants sounded so rehearsed that it didn’t feel remotely authentic. I like tayisha and kaitlyn annoys me but I’m glad to have other hosts besides Chris.
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Post by jaidit on Jun 9, 2021 14:29:18 GMT -6
I was also laughing at the casting choice of the emotional virgin? Like what the hell but I’m curious to see how that plays out.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jun 9, 2021 15:00:06 GMT -6
Apparently Katie's ratings were the lowest bachelor premiere ever Did Bachelor Nation really stop watching because Chris isn't on there? Oh wow, this really surprises me. Actually, though, I swear there has been way less promotion for this season than previous seasons. It doesn't seem like there was nearly the same level of marketing put in to this one.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jun 9, 2021 15:00:50 GMT -6
Something I thought yall might be curious about. A month or so ago, the producers asked Michelle what she wants to make her life easier before going on the show. She said "well, it's hard to prepare all my meals with teaching and everything" (thinking she'd get like a hello fresh subscription) but she got a private chef prepare 3 meals a day along with a few snacks and desserts since and will til she goes. I know she got a few more perks but I can't remember them now. This is so awesome!
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Post by thatgolfb on Jun 9, 2021 15:01:55 GMT -6
Yes!
I think it is a mixture between Chris not being on and people being mad about that and I think the producers wanted Katie to be a fan favorite and made that their thing like Fetch, but if they actually paid attention to Bachelor Nation she was not a fan favorite.
Is she terrible? I thought she was funny. But I am a sucker for dirty innuendos and puns. While also knowing that reality personas aren't always genuine. I like Katie. But I can't tell if that's a UO here or not.
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Post by mischief on Jun 9, 2021 16:37:50 GMT -6
Is she terrible? I thought she was funny. But I am a sucker for dirty innuendos and puns. While also knowing that reality personas aren't always genuine. I like Katie. But I can't tell if that's a UO here or not. I'm going all in. Basted on what I've seen. I'm weak for a good pun. I also like that she swears lol, because I swear....a lot
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Post by tarheelmom on Jun 9, 2021 22:13:35 GMT -6
That's absolutely fair. Well hopefully she doesn't turn out to be a genuine piece of shit because that would be disappointing and I know it's happened before. She has been very supportive of Chris Harrison being fired and all the women, especially all of the BIPOC so she gained some points with me on that. angelashly , tarheelmom , pitchslap , auburn , mischief , abbandkaa , So I feel like she was awesome at first...then one contestant was super emotional, hyper needy and she was the first to jump all over her for not respecting the other girls. Then said girl said she was leaving and Katie did an about face, wait, what you’re leaving? We totally support you! After she had sh*t talked her to the other girls and convinced them to consolidate against her. She was the mean girl ringleader and then suddenly the defender against the mean girls. It just never sat well with me.....
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Post by catmom88 on Jun 10, 2021 6:46:21 GMT -6
pitchslap,That is awesome! I want a private chef.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 10, 2021 6:47:29 GMT -6
Apparently Katie's ratings were the lowest bachelor premiere ever Did Bachelor Nation really stop watching because Chris isn't on there? Oh wow, this really surprises me. Actually, though, I swear there has been way less promotion for this season than previous seasons. It doesn't seem like there was nearly the same level of marketing put in to this one. It has been said she has been very outspoken when it comes to Chris Harrison and the franchise. I am honestly surprised that her season filmed, but I think that she was public enough with the outrage that people would have known why she was "fired"
I was surprised she got a decent edit this first episode because I thought for sure they will make her look bad the whole season.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 10, 2021 6:49:17 GMT -6
She has been very supportive of Chris Harrison being fired and all the women, especially all of the BIPOC so she gained some points with me on that. angelashly , tarheelmom , pitchslap , auburn , mischief , abbandkaa , So I feel like she was awesome at first...then one contestant was super emotional, hyper needy and she was the first to jump all over her for not respecting the other girls. Then said girl said she was leaving and Katie did an about face, wait, what you’re leaving? We totally support you! After she had sh*t talked her to the other girls and convinced them to consolidate against her. She was the mean girl ringleader and then suddenly the defender against the mean girls. It just never sat well with me..... This is me and my thoughts. Her behavior after with her support of BIPOC past contestants and such has earned her some points from me and I hope that it is genuine, but I still think she is a mean girl when it suits her needs.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 14, 2021 14:28:05 GMT -6
Are we ready for group dates?
Who do you think will get the first one on one? I wonder if Greg will and I hope it won't be one of those things like Abigail last season where they hit it off good at first and then fizzle out.
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Post by sunnysideup on Jun 14, 2021 15:14:10 GMT -6
I’m going to have to turn in my bachelor/bachelorette card. I didn’t realize the season premiere was last week. I’m already behind 😬🤦🏼♀️
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