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Post by angelashly on Aug 3, 2021 7:02:17 GMT -6
He’s an ACTor and it’s coming in handy. He’s being childish and now, so too, is she. Sure, she could have acknowledged what he said in a more meaningful way. But she has tried to make him understand her and he’s shutting her down. It’s manipulative! I can see them having a life of this. Her trying to please him and him gaslighting her. Not cool, Greg-o. She’s getting dumped by all the guys I had thought would be in the final 2-3!! Damn. I’d wanna go home, too, but y’all signed up for this, soooo see it thru. This was my interpretation too. It feels very emotionally manipulative on his part. I feel like he never intended to make it this far so he chose a dramatic exit that is, of course, not his fault. It really does feel like he’s putting on a show and is not actually pissed. See I took it as: 1. Actor 2. Clearly the favorite of the family and probably never been not fawned all over 3. Manipulation
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Post by angelashly on Aug 3, 2021 7:27:17 GMT -6
Also how much did we love Blake's sister and her so this is the one now
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Post by angelashly on Aug 3, 2021 7:32:27 GMT -6
Also actor or not Katie does not have the maturity to deal with love. He did pour his heart out to her (real or fake) and she said I love to look at you. Their communication was sooooooo bad.
I respect her for not wanting to say she is in love, but she could say she is falling for him she could say something other than I love looking at you and then telling him he was giving up on them.
The rest he was terrible for because she doesn't OWE you anything, but she is clearly feeling something.
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Post by abbandkaa on Aug 3, 2021 8:05:39 GMT -6
Blake's sister was a riot - say it like it is, sister!! We've all been thinking it! angelashly , I hear what you're saying about Katie being all "I love to look at you" that was AWKWARD AF but I do have to wonder about editing there, like did she really say that just as he told her she has a piece of his heart? It seems so disconnected from the discussion and they've seemingly been really very connected up to this point, not just physically into one another. At this point I wonder if Katie knows what (who) she wants beyond wanting to be wanted.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 3, 2021 8:20:50 GMT -6
Blake's sister was a riot - say it like it is, sister!! We've all been thinking it! angelashly , I hear what you're saying about Katie being all "I love to look at you" that was AWKWARD AF but I do have to wonder about editing there, like did she really say that just as he told her she has a piece of his heart? It seems so disconnected from the discussion and they've seemingly been really very connected up to this point, not just physically into one another. At this point I wonder if Katie knows what (who) she wants beyond wanting to be wanted.This is it for me. I don't think she does. All of the men are so different. Look how she was with Andrew as soon as she told him no and he came back to get that closure she wanted him to stay. She loves the attention and girl there is nothing wrong with that. Take this new found confidence and Bachelor nation fame and find you someone who loves you and you don't have to change for.
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Post by klong11 on Aug 3, 2021 8:30:11 GMT -6
Katie previously told Greg she was falling for him. She just didn't say falling in LOVE.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 3, 2021 8:32:07 GMT -6
Katie previously told Greg she was falling for him. She just didn't say falling in LOVE. So it would have been easy for her to say it again, but again she DOESN'T HAVE TO just don't pretend you don't know why he is upset.
Also I do hope it was editing because any time someone else said it this season she at least kissed them.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 3, 2021 8:32:48 GMT -6
Hell I would have taken thank you for opening up to me like that.
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Post by klong11 on Aug 3, 2021 8:35:59 GMT -6
Katie previously told Greg she was falling for him. She just didn't say falling in LOVE. So it would have been easy for her to say it again, but again she DOESN'T HAVE TO just don't pretend you don't know why he is upset.
Also I do hope it was editing because any time someone else said it this season she at least kissed them.
No, she didn't HAVE to do anything. I just meant that he was acting like he had no clue how she felt and that she wasn't giving him enough, but she had previously told him that, so I couldn't tell where he was coming from. I feel like she's been very open and honest with her feelings towards him. Even all the other guys saw him as a "front runner". He was coming from left-field with everything last night and it just seemed like he was trying to get an out.
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Post by abbandkaa on Aug 3, 2021 9:25:52 GMT -6
klong11 I don't know that I think he was looking for an out. I think he got into his own head and couldn't see a way out. Like he talked himself into a dither and there was nothing she could have done or said in the conversation AFTER that would have dissuaded him from his position. Do I think he played it up, yes. But his emotions were probably heightened having just seen his family and still also being very deep in his grief.
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Post by fb on Aug 3, 2021 10:19:02 GMT -6
That was so much last night. Uncomfortable to watch. Clearly he wanted her to just end the show and be with him but WOOOOOOF. I honestly think he was going to be the F1 until he did that. And the manipulation of "I said you filled a HOLE in my HEART" was just tew much. Lordt.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 3, 2021 10:24:12 GMT -6
So it would have been easy for her to say it again, but again she DOESN'T HAVE TO just don't pretend you don't know why he is upset.
Also I do hope it was editing because any time someone else said it this season she at least kissed them.
No, she didn't HAVE to do anything. I just meant that he was acting like he had no clue how she felt and that she wasn't giving him enough, but she had previously told him that, so I couldn't tell where he was coming from. I feel like she's been very open and honest with her feelings towards him. Even all the other guys saw him as a "front runner". He was coming from left-field with everything last night and it just seemed like he was trying to get an out. I guess for me is she has said it once so when someone who even his family say he has never been this way before pours his heart out to you maybe say it again ::shrugs::
Again I don't think he wanted a way out but I do think he was all over the place and then in her room it turned to manipulation. She sat there and told him that she said that if he left she was done because she wanted him at the end and yet she is saying you get a rose. I get where he was coming from, but I think they won't work in the long run if he needs that much reassurance all the time
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Post by pitchslap on Aug 3, 2021 13:47:04 GMT -6
I wonder if Greg heard about/saw how Katie ran after Andrew to try to get him to come back and wanted that too.
Or he is *really* trying to become the Bachelor. "Oh poor me, my heart is so broken... I want love..."
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Post by jubilantsquirrel on Aug 3, 2021 14:04:41 GMT -6
I think Greg's spiral started when he saw her with Blake. And then just escalated when he told her how he was felt about her and she said "I like looking at you". Once that happened there was no coming back, despite Katie all but saying you're the one.
I also don't see how she can move forward with Blake or Justin after this. Imagine being engaged to her and watching this episode where she says she's done and wants to go home after Greg leaves. I wouldn't feel secure in my relationship at all.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 3, 2021 14:06:30 GMT -6
I think Greg's spiral started when he saw her with Blake. And then just escalated when he told her how he was felt about her and she said "I like looking at you". Once that happened there was no coming back, despite Katie all but saying you're the one. I also don't see how she can move forward with Blake or Justin after this. Imagine being engaged to her and watching this episode where she says she's done and wants to go home after Greg leaves. I wouldn't feel secure in my relationship at all. Wellllllll Rachel and what’s her husband’s name did. If I was him after watching her beg Peter to pick her and love her etc. I would have left
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Post by lostinfaith225 on Aug 3, 2021 14:55:41 GMT -6
I think Greg's spiral started when he saw her with Blake. And then just escalated when he told her how he was felt about her and she said "I like looking at you". Once that happened there was no coming back, despite Katie all but saying you're the one. I also don't see how she can move forward with Blake or Justin after this. Imagine being engaged to her and watching this episode where she says she's done and wants to go home after Greg leaves. I wouldn't feel secure in my relationship at all. I had wondered if production edited out some of the conversation before she said I like looking at you. It seemed so odd for her. She just seemed deer in headlights in the conversation.
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Post by jubilantsquirrel on Aug 3, 2021 15:01:12 GMT -6
I think Greg's spiral started when he saw her with Blake. And then just escalated when he told her how he was felt about her and she said "I like looking at you". Once that happened there was no coming back, despite Katie all but saying you're the one. I also don't see how she can move forward with Blake or Justin after this. Imagine being engaged to her and watching this episode where she says she's done and wants to go home after Greg leaves. I wouldn't feel secure in my relationship at all. I had wondered if production edited out some of the conversation before she said I like looking at you. It seemed so odd for her. She just seemed deer in headlights in the conversation. It definitely was an out of character response from her.
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Post by abbandkaa on Aug 4, 2021 6:44:49 GMT -6
What is this? Is the papaya supposed to represent some pu**y power thing? Maybe the BN promo of "an ending never seen before" is just Katie walking away from it all, empowered as an independent woman who don't need no man. http://instagram.com/p/CSI5m5aLjcX
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Post by angelashly on Aug 4, 2021 7:21:46 GMT -6
What is this? Is the papaya supposed to represent some pu**y power thing? Maybe the BN promo of "an ending never seen before" is just Katie walking away from it all, empowered as an independent woman who don't need no man. http://instagr.am/p/CSI5m5aLjcX I am ::::THIS CLOSE:::::: to finding the spoilers.
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Post by abbandkaa on Aug 4, 2021 8:22:52 GMT -6
angelashly - If she picks Blake or Justin after this, how will they ever know they were her actual choice with all of her racing after departing guys and literally saying she wants to leave because Greg left?!! OOUF. I said this morning about Katie that she (and no one else, for that matter) should never have to BEG a person - your person - to hear you out. You can be mad or disappointed in someone, but you don't get to do what Greg did to her. She was literally on her knees begging him. Don't be a Greg, man. Damn.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 4, 2021 8:27:05 GMT -6
angelashly - If she picks Blake or Justin after this, how will they ever know they were her actual choice with all of her racing after departing guys and literally saying she wants to leave because Greg left?!! OOUF. I said this morning about Katie that she (and no one else, for that matter) should never have to BEG a person - your person - to hear you out. You can be mad or disappointed in someone, but you don't get to do what Greg did to her. She was literally on her knees begging him. Don't be a Greg, man. Damn. She has to just leave right. I don’t even feel like watching next week If it is just 2 hours of her crying about everyone leaving but of course I will
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Post by abbandkaa on Aug 4, 2021 8:31:15 GMT -6
angelashly my girlfriend said she's rooting for Justin. LOL I was like "who?" he is so milquetoast, the best thing about him are his facial expressions, but an actual match for Katie? Nah. I don't see it.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 4, 2021 9:55:28 GMT -6
angelashly my girlfriend said she's rooting for Justin. LOL I was like "who?" he is so milquetoast, the best thing about him are his facial expressions, but an actual match for Katie? Nah. I don't see it. At this point between him and Blake I am with your friend
There has to be more not shown with Justin for him to make it this far right????????????????????????????????????
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Post by abbandkaa on Aug 4, 2021 13:53:53 GMT -6
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Post by mrsweasley on Aug 5, 2021 14:30:54 GMT -6
I think there was some weird editing going on this episode. All the promos with Katie walking away saying she wanted to go home had a slightly different phrase than what was said in the actual episode.
Don't get me wrong, Greg had some manipulating bullshit going on too, but I don't think we got the whole picture. I hate that ABC does this
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Post by abbandkaa on Aug 5, 2021 18:31:40 GMT -6
[mention]mrsweasley [/mention] I don’t think it’s ABC it’s more like BN behind the editing.
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Post by sunnysideup on Aug 6, 2021 7:52:40 GMT -6
What is this? Is the papaya supposed to represent some pu**y power thing? Maybe the BN promo of "an ending never seen before" is just Katie walking away from it all, empowered as an independent woman who don't need no man. http://instagr.am/p/CSI5m5aLjcX Best comment was she let her “MAN-GO” 🤣 I’m so confused by the papaya pics.
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Post by sunnysideup on Aug 6, 2021 8:07:40 GMT -6
I went to the studio website in the credits and it showed other pics from the shoot that have her holding one white flower behind her back. I’m reading to much into it but I feel like it’s a play on the red roses 🌹 and maybe people are right about the woman empowerment thing and she doesn’t pick anyone.
Still think the papaya is weird.
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Post by jubilantsquirrel on Aug 6, 2021 11:38:39 GMT -6
There's a comment on that post from the photographer who said the papaya doesn't mean anything. She was at the grocery store the day before the shoot and saw papayas and decided to pick one up. I guess she likes to incorporate fruit in her shoots sometimes? Idk. Still weird.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 6, 2021 12:57:53 GMT -6
There's a comment on that post from the photographer who said the papaya doesn't mean anything. She was at the grocery store the day before the shoot and saw papayas and decided to pick one up. I guess she likes to incorporate fruit in her shoots sometimes? Idk. Still weird.
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