claudia
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Post by claudia on Jun 9, 2021 10:39:21 GMT -6
It’s getting messier with the name drama. The BBC says a palace source says the Queen wasn’t consulted on the name and Harry has now threatened legal action. One morning show, maybe Today show had someone on there that was saying how rude and disrespectful it was for them to name her Lilibet as that was a private nickname from her husband who hasn't been dead long.
I thought it was her dad who gave her that name? ArielMermaid People are acting like it is a super private, intimate name and ignoring the fact that when Philip died, the Spanish Royals addressed their condolences to Aunt Lilibet. I think it boils down to Harry and Meghan were able to have the birth they wanted with no leaks to the press til they announced it, and the salty British press and racist royal watchers are pissed so they're making a huge to do about the name.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 10:39:49 GMT -6
My MIL to this day will say that my DD is her namesake because we used a middle name that can be seen as a nickname for MIL's name. Nevermind not one person in life has called her that, but yeah.
We did not in fact think of her when we picked the middle name but whatever grandparents love that stuff.
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Post by claudia on Jun 9, 2021 10:43:19 GMT -6
I mean, it's perfectly fine for Will, Zara, Philip to all use Elizabeth in their daughter's names and for Eugenie and Zara to use Philip in their son's names, but suddenly it is massively disrespectful of Harry and Meghan.
If it were really as private of a nickname as they're trying to play it as, we wouldn't know about it.
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Post by fatpony on Jun 9, 2021 10:46:02 GMT -6
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Post by claudia on Jun 9, 2021 10:48:09 GMT -6
I think it is a battle of semantics where both sides are technically telling the truth. "We'd love to name the baby Lilibet after you." "Oh that sounds lovely." Not "Do we have your permission to name our daughter Lilibet?" "Permission granted."
Because you don't need permission to name your child whatever you want.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 10:56:21 GMT -6
One morning show, maybe Today show had someone on there that was saying how rude and disrespectful it was for them to name her Lilibet as that was a private nickname from her husband who hasn't been dead long.
I thought it was her dad who gave her that name? ArielMermaid People are acting like it is a super private, intimate name and ignoring the fact that when Philip died, the Spanish Royals addressed their condolences to Aunt Lilibet. I think it boils down to Harry and Meghan were able to have the birth they wanted with no leaks to the press til they announced it, and the salty British press and racist royal watchers are pissed so they're making a huge to do about the name. I think it is just that and the fact that it was Harry and Meghan. I feel like if it was Eugenie or Bea nothing would have been said even though they don't do the whole birth thing either.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 10:57:57 GMT -6
I mean, it's perfectly fine for Will, Zara, Philip to all use Elizabeth in their daughter's names and for Eugenie and Zara to use Philip in their son's names, but suddenly it is massively disrespectful of Harry and Meghan. If it were really as private of a nickname as they're trying to play it as, we wouldn't know about it. YEP
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Post by claudia on Jun 9, 2021 11:08:30 GMT -6
People are acting like it is a super private, intimate name and ignoring the fact that when Philip died, the Spanish Royals addressed their condolences to Aunt Lilibet. I think it boils down to Harry and Meghan were able to have the birth they wanted with no leaks to the press til they announced it, and the salty British press and racist royal watchers are pissed so they're making a huge to do about the name. I think it is just that and the fact that it was Harry and Meghan. I feel like if it was Eugenie or Bea nothing would have been said even though they don't do the whole birth thing either. If they hadn't used any part of the Queen's name "they are snubbing the Queen. All of the other grandchildren have included her name in their daughter's names. How disrespectful." If they had used Elizabeth "Look at them copying Charlotte's name almost completely. How disrespectful." They come up with a name that honors the Queen but is still their own "That's her private nickname. How disrespectful."
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 11:11:14 GMT -6
I think it is just that and the fact that it was Harry and Meghan. I feel like if it was Eugenie or Bea nothing would have been said even though they don't do the whole birth thing either. If they hadn't used any part of the Queen's name "they are snubbing the Queen. All of the other grandchildren have included her name in their daughter's names. How disrespectful." If they had used Elizabeth "Look at them copying Charlotte's name almost completely. How disrespectful." They come up with a name that honors the Queen but is still their own "That's her private nickname. How disrespectful." Exactly and even my H who visibly tunes out when I talk Royals said well they couldn't name her Diana imagine that poor girl's pressure. If he can get it how can the Brits not?
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jun 9, 2021 11:19:27 GMT -6
I’m glad both Will and Harry kept Diana a middle name. I think any royal offspring with Diana as a first name would be a huge target.
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Post by Bookshelves on Jun 9, 2021 11:29:04 GMT -6
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Post by Bookshelves on Jun 9, 2021 11:30:54 GMT -6
angelashly I can’t believe you went on an unplugged vacation and then they had the baby. That’s what we should really be upset about.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 11:33:00 GMT -6
angelashly I can’t believe you went on an unplugged vacation and then they had the baby. That’s what we should really be upset about. I KNOW!
The universe was all ok you want to shut out the world and your friends well
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 9, 2021 12:00:24 GMT -6
Theyre probably honestly just grasping at straws to find anything negative at all to write about H&M now that they've started their own life
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jun 9, 2021 12:34:00 GMT -6
Theyre probably honestly just grasping at straws to find anything negative at all to write about H&M now that they've started their own life Exactly this. The media just needs someone to shit on at all times and will make up anything to make them sound bad.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 9, 2021 13:00:46 GMT -6
Theyre probably honestly just grasping at straws to find anything negative at all to write about H&M now that they've started their own life Exactly this. The media just needs someone to shit on at all times and will make up anything to make them sound bad. Especially since they will only write bad about one couple
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Post by oreobitsy on Jun 9, 2021 13:00:48 GMT -6
What’s bonkers about the whole thing is that she’s not even going to be called Lilibet! They’re going to use Lili!
Stupid media.
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Post by tgrimes on Jun 9, 2021 14:33:09 GMT -6
I think it is just that and the fact that it was Harry and Meghan. I feel like if it was Eugenie or Bea nothing would have been said even though they don't do the whole birth thing either. If they hadn't used any part of the Queen's name "they are snubbing the Queen. All of the other grandchildren have included her name in their daughter's names. How disrespectful." If they had used Elizabeth "Look at them copying Charlotte's name almost completely. How disrespectful." They come up with a name that honors the Queen but is still their own "That's her private nickname. How disrespectful." ![](https://media1.tenor.com/images/42e725ecc7aa3d6122311d14a200711f/tenor.gif?itemid=16274011)
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Post by 4speedy on Jun 9, 2021 14:54:47 GMT -6
Maxima yesterday ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210609/df750191a90470a6583cc6490fa9a3d0.jpg) ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210609/7ca6d75bfec7b27b0bc3e0a46e626117.jpg) I hate this dress but I love it on her,if that makes any sense. I hate the dress but I bet I’ll love it on the bird.
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Post by elle on Jun 9, 2021 23:01:34 GMT -6
My 18 month old just said alligator (al-gadr) and I immediately thought of Archie and this thread. 😆
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Post by jaidit on Jun 10, 2021 6:00:47 GMT -6
Letizia today ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210610/3021ff1162e9f01d8e6c551b1ef00029.jpg)
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Post by emma on Jun 10, 2021 7:11:02 GMT -6
Oh I like Letizia’s dress today much more than yesterday’s
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Post by oreobitsy on Jun 10, 2021 7:15:23 GMT -6
I could see Kate wearing Letizia’s dress. I don’t like the hem but the green and pattern is great.
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Post by ouijabored on Jun 10, 2021 7:38:14 GMT -6
Re: the name drama
First of all, I feel bad for them having to deal with this right after having a new baby. Second, assuming it is true that Harry asked for her permission or blessing or whatever (which I assume is true considering he is now threatening to sue over it), how shitty is it that the Queen hasn't issued a statement denying the reports that she wasn't asked? Isn't this exactly the pattern of behavior that led the Sussexes to leave in the first place? "Unnamed sources" inside the palace leak or brief against them and then the family members who could presumably fix it for them don't bother.
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Post by tgrimes on Jun 10, 2021 7:42:04 GMT -6
I love Letizia's dress! That's a great color on her.
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Post by Taitai on Jun 10, 2021 7:50:02 GMT -6
Oh I like Letizia’s dress today much more than yesterday’s I love how she paired it with a purple bag too. Much better.
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Post by emma on Jun 10, 2021 7:57:23 GMT -6
Oh I like Letizia’s dress today much more than yesterday’s I love how she paired it with a purple bag too. Much better. i hadn't noticed the clutch but yes that's a perfect colour to go with the dress. I love that the dress, shoes and bag are all coordinated perfectly but not matching
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Post by angelashly on Jun 10, 2021 8:32:14 GMT -6
Re: the name drama First of all, I feel bad for them having to deal with this right after having a new baby. Second, assuming it is true that Harry asked for her permission or blessing or whatever (which I assume is true considering he is now threatening to sue over it), how shitty is it that the Queen hasn't issued a statement denying the reports that she wasn't asked? Isn't this exactly the pattern of behavior that led the Sussexes to leave in the first place? "Unnamed sources" inside the palace leak or brief against them and then the family members who could presumably fix it for them don't bother. Exactly which is why I love the name for Harry and Meghan if they feel that The Firm is not The Queen, but I also don't buy she has no say in anything.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 10, 2021 8:33:40 GMT -6
I read an article today about how the congrats on all the SM pages left of the Duke and Duchess titles. I didn't notice it at first but I am meh on it but at the same time you know the Palace did it to show that they are separate even though they are technically still the Duke and Duchess correct?
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Post by tgrimes on Jun 10, 2021 9:14:51 GMT -6
I hate this dress but I love it on her,if that makes any sense. I hate the dress but I bet I’ll love it on the bird. Ha ha ha. so true.
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