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Post by jkjacq on Feb 24, 2021 7:53:39 GMT -6
All I can say wrt to Neera and Deb is they confirmed Betsy fucking devos and if that doesn’t show the biases I don’t know what dies
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:06:38 GMT -6
Haaland, day 2
I’m sewing masks while I watch, so if no one else is posting, I will do my usual C- work in here.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:14:26 GMT -6
Kelly up 1st for his 1st round.
Feedback issue.
Asking consent to add AZ tribal leaders support of this nom.
Asking about drought and Lake Mead.
Haaland: Understands from living in that areas how important water and conservation of water is. Water recycling is great. Consensus based solutions are important in all matters. Emphasizes working together.
Kelly: Existing and future NA water settlements.
Haaland: Not going to commit to anything on Indigenous lands and how they manage water resources (basically).
Kelly moving to mining.
Haaland: sacredness of Grand Canyon and keeping mining safe is important.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:20:00 GMT -6
Risch: keystone pipeline
Haaland: feels confident in president and his decision. She respects his decision. He discussed these points during his election talks. He wants to balance environment and
Risch: fillibuster. Please answer
Haaland. Supporting potus
Risch is going to keep asking the same question.
Haaland if this is your bone, you could say yes, because I support his choice.
R but I want your thoughts on this matter. My bone. My minutes.
Haaland trying to emphasize her not being potus.
R LOST JOBS. KEYSTONE PIPELINE! Why can’t we shut all other pipelines. RUSSIANS. Bipartisan. Sanctions. Construction. Administration not listening. You listen? You help? You interstate? You Russia?
Haaland: pause on new leases. Existing valid leases moving forward. I can’t break down all permits that have been signed.
R: no new?
H: it is a pause. I don’t have specifics.
R RUSSIAN PIPELINE though. Why we no stop Russia using their land in this way, but we stop on our land.
R wants more time. Fucker
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:21:06 GMT -6
Risch: we wear states, here in this room, struggle with DC pushing us when we move on our own. Hopes she will work locally and not from million miles away in DC.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:21:48 GMT -6
Risch: keystone pipeline Haaland: feels confident in president and his decision. She respects his decision. He discussed these points during his election talks. He wants to balance environment and Risch: fillibuster. Please answer Haaland. Supporting potus Risch is going to keep asking the same question. Haaland if this is your bone, you could say yes, because I support his choice. R but I want your thoughts on this matter. My bone. My minutes. Haaland trying to emphasize her not being potus. R LOST JOBS. KEYSTONE PIPELINE! Why can’t we shut all other pipelines. RUSSIANS. Bipartisan. Sanctions. Construction. Administration not listening. You listen? You help? You interstate? You Russia? Haaland: pause on new leases. Existing valid leases moving forward. I can’t break down all permits that have been signed. R: no new? H: it is a pause. I don’t have specifics. R RUSSIAN PIPELINE though. Why we no stop Russia using their land in this way, but we stop on our land. R wants more time. Fucker He wants to know why we haven't banned another country from...governing their own country?
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 24, 2021 9:23:56 GMT -6
Risch: we wear states, here in this room, struggle with DC pushing us when we move on our own. Hopes she will work locally and not from million miles away in DC. Fucking bridge troll One of the richest men in congress and never has time for his constituency I hope he falls in a manure pond
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:25:02 GMT -6
Manchin points out that something like 53% of land leases and 70%+ offshore leases sit unused.
Explain to me like I'm fucking 5 why we need more leases. And why a pause is going to kill jobs. Y'all aren't even using what you have. By a lot.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:26:38 GMT -6
Manchin on methane. Why don’t we use methane? Why we no sell? Why no product line? Why no permits that keep us from methane-ing all the things and not turning to pollution. 75B cuft methane.
Haaland: billions could also go to our schools. We can care for climate and use what we can to benefit tax payers.
Manchin: no flare mathane. We need o&G to lease on and off shore, why they no produce on unused land. Why and what intentions. Very large number of unused. No one stopping anyone. Only pause by potus for them to review. Will cos with permits be allowed for new permits on leases? Or can they keep going on existing?
Haaland: I’m not at the dept yet. My understanding is permits are moving through. Some are different and how reward. She agrees with a review being good idea.
Manchin: oh, we are bringing them in here. Fairness for improving environment. Methane pipelines okay by me for environment.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:27:00 GMT -6
Risch: keystone pipeline Haaland: feels confident in president and his decision. She respects his decision. He discussed these points during his election talks. He wants to balance environment and Risch: fillibuster. Please answer Haaland. Supporting potus Risch is going to keep asking the same question. Haaland if this is your bone, you could say yes, because I support his choice. R but I want your thoughts on this matter. My bone. My minutes. Haaland trying to emphasize her not being potus. R LOST JOBS. KEYSTONE PIPELINE! Why can’t we shut all other pipelines. RUSSIANS. Bipartisan. Sanctions. Construction. Administration not listening. You listen? You help? You interstate? You Russia? Haaland: pause on new leases. Existing valid leases moving forward. I can’t break down all permits that have been signed. R: no new? H: it is a pause. I don’t have specifics. R RUSSIAN PIPELINE though. Why we no stop Russia using their land in this way, but we stop on our land. R wants more time. Fucker He wants to know why we haven't banned another country from...governing their own country? My elementary understanding is yes.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:27:26 GMT -6
He wants to know why we haven't banned another country from...governing their own country? My elementary understanding is yes. That's some big white man energy right there.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:29:32 GMT -6
BANBANBANBANBANBANBANBANBAN*
*it's not a ban
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:32:14 GMT -6
Barrasso notes Haaland once wanted to make up for oil revenue loss used for public education by legalizing and taxing weed.
He's really worked up about Mary Jane.
The gentleman doth protest too much!
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:32:32 GMT -6
Barrasso: chart of Haaland quotes from may 2019 and dec 2020. If potus asks your opinion, will you give my opinion? You would have principle role. Would you do my bidding?
Haaland: congressperson =\= secretary of interior. Want to look at striking that balance of environment and fossil fuel priorities. Sometimes it may seem tricky, but it can be done if we are working to protect our environment/land it will in turn protect jobs for those generations too. Jobs of future isn’t as obscure to workers as you are making it seem.
B: you campaigned as congress, you would legalize weed. Weed tax should replace g&o?
H: we need to diversify
B: are you saying weed is better than oil. Attacking her now on saying she only wants to recommend to turn to taxing and making DRUGS legal. OPIODS!
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:32:48 GMT -6
OOOO now he is likening weed to the opioid crisis.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:34:43 GMT -6
Mike Lee is now trying to mansplain repatriation of native artifacts to Deb.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:37:17 GMT -6
Lee is "concerned" about expanding national monuments (big huge important critical pressing issue). Presumably because then states couldn't blow them up for resources.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:38:42 GMT -6
Fucking Lee’s turn.
National monuments. So many in Utah. We are being picked on. 1950 Congress vs Jackson hole. Why Wyoming and Alaska no have to national monument anymore from potus proclamations? Overacting potuses. Now we are talking sports - ping pong. How can we limit a state being picked on to not allow us to do as we will in our arbitrary lines that designate our states.
Haaland: I understand, but not in a way you can, because I’m not you. Tribal nations care too. I respect your position and it is EVERYONE in the area not just you Mike.
Lee: some people I know don’t get listened to - he says without awareness to the Indigenous woman.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:40:02 GMT -6
Haaland to Lee: the pause isn’t a full stop. Simply a pause by the actual definition of the word.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:41:25 GMT -6
Lee seems like the guy who is looking over the gal chugging a beer waiting for the leases to unpause. You’re saying there is a chance, so like, today tomorrow, next week/month/year/decade. TELL ME WHEN UNPAUSE
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:47:22 GMT -6
Cantwell: marijuana isn’t a Seattle issue. Revenue is okay with it. Respecting voters and putting to good use.
C: will you money find the protection and investments to the national parks. She also stated the oldest national monument.
Haaland: yes, I will (which she stated yesterday too)
C: payment in leu of taxes is critical. How can we expand? Can you look at increasing support for federal protected lands.
H: committed to PILT and will look at strengthening.
More about how to look at financially support.
Wants to now make mention to how important it is to the Indigenous people all over this nation Haaland’s nomination is. They have all been stewards of honoring this land forever.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:50:52 GMT -6
Daines: how do you get resources without digging into all the land?
Haaland: this job isn’t one district is one state. Future independence. Earth provides and has for forever. Stop being stingy for yourself and actually act on and not just say you concerned for your grandchildren.
Daines is now being a duck and doesn’t believe what she says. Something about no trapping on federal lands. Will you do same on public lands.
H: What are you talking about? I won’t arbitrarily make rules.
D: did you research before you stated no on federal lands. More duck shit.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:51:24 GMT -6
Oh, he is only concerned about trapping for safe release and collaring. Sure Chad.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:51:37 GMT -6
Daines wants to talk about guns guns guns and western heritage
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:53:43 GMT -6
Daines "we loooooooove science in the GOP"
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Post by cakewench on Feb 24, 2021 9:55:19 GMT -6
Daines "we loooooooove science in the GOP"
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Post by ktg on Feb 24, 2021 9:55:33 GMT -6
The GOP pivot saying the word "science" like a magical spell is really something.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 9:55:58 GMT -6
D now discussing semiautomatic weapons and hunting.
Haaland: I’m a Pueblo woman. We only kill game to survive and why I’m here. No need to excess.
Me: he is being absurd.
He is now mad she has supported others in his state about wildlife protection acts. Wants to discuss grazing. Why you no mention grazing?
H: I understand how important. You said I hadn’t mentioned it before, that is because I have a basic understanding how important it is.
D: 30 by 30 has no details. (His time is up)
H: Biden has embraced this. It is for land and water. Not just public lands. Private lands and Indian lands all need to work together.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 24, 2021 9:58:02 GMT -6
Hirono reminding everyone what the DOI is actually supposed to do. I love this.
DOI is not there to serve oil companies. By their own charter they are there to preserve and protect.
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Post by clucky on Feb 24, 2021 10:02:40 GMT -6
Hirono: opposite aisle keep attacking your positions, but we do same. They are hypocrites. They have giant conflicts of interest, even have to wear billboards - or carry cards. You are being attacked for things they won’t even consider. Not your job to make sure fossil fuel jobs are kept as per. You need to lead to protect for generations, which you understand more than anyone asking questions ever could. We know about climate change and it is so bad. What motivates you?
Haaland: Going to share Cantwell story. Her friend has radio powered by sun. Navajo code talkers used word for our mother to start the code. We want to protect this country and everything it can offer. SHE CARES IN HER BEING.
I will give zero justice to this story. Hopefully it will be posted.
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