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Post by Jelly on Jan 21, 2021 16:36:20 GMT -6
speaking of literature, is it a FFC that I was definitely like....33-34 years old when I finally had that magic epiphany that Clueless was based on Jane Austen's Emma?
and it was in the most embarrassing way possible.... it was towards the end of watching the movie Emma (the one with gwyn), and one of the lines was similar to one from Clueless and I was like "HA! that reminds me of Clueles----....wait a minute."
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Jan 21, 2021 16:36:34 GMT -6
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Jan 21, 2021 16:38:27 GMT -6
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Post by McBenny on Jan 21, 2021 16:38:27 GMT -6
OMG just thinking about Heathcliff begging Cathy not to leave him.
I cry.
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Jan 21, 2021 16:44:59 GMT -6
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jan 21, 2021 16:44:59 GMT -6
I think Romeo and Juliet is a poor choice to introduce young people to Shakespeare. Am I doing this right? Totally agree. But, I am a Shakespeare fan. Either one of his comedies or Othello, Macbeth or The Tempest would be a great intro. I do understand why kids relate to the teen love and screw the parents mentality in R and J.
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jan 21, 2021 16:48:46 GMT -6
You threadbare juggler, you eater of broken meats, you saucy lackey.
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Post by mothafuckinteatime on Jan 21, 2021 16:51:09 GMT -6
Penguins are the most majestic of flightless birds. Penguins and their enclosures smell like urine. Like, their water at zoos is just straight up piss. I have a cute pic of myself with a penguin my age though
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Jan 21, 2021 16:55:28 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 16:55:28 GMT -6
Penguins are the most majestic of flightless birds. Penguins and their enclosures smell like urine. Like, their water at zoos is just straight up piss. This was covered.
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Jan 21, 2021 16:59:09 GMT -6
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Post by rvasc on Jan 21, 2021 16:59:09 GMT -6
This is just my unprofessional opinion, but if you avoid things because they make you have feelings, that might be worth some exploration on your part.
I mean, I am also known for keeping a feeling chart on the fridge for family conversations so you know, take that with a jar of Morton’s.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:06:45 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:06:45 GMT -6
This is just my unprofessional opinion, but if you avoid things because they make you have feelings, that might be worth some exploration on your part. I mean, I am also known for keeping a feeling chart on the fridge for family conversations so you know, take that with a jar of Morton’s. Yeah, frankly no. It's taken me 38 years of forcing myself into situations that do nothing but make me miserable, uncomfortable, anxious, etc. Coming to the understanding of my own limits and preferences is the result of self exploration. Not an absence of it. I would like to feel on my own terms, in situations that bring me enjoyment. Strong emotional response is not positive for me. And I am well adjusted and mentally healthy enough now to honor that with in myself. It's lovely that you love art, truly, but I have to be honest I'm a little put off by this campaign as you called it. It's okay for people to experience it differently than you do. Emotions do not process the same for everyone. Choosing not to put oneself in a place that isn't mentally comfortable is a good thing. Trust and respect the boundaries they put in place for themselves, and focus on your own enjoyment.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:10:05 GMT -6
Post by Jelly on Jan 21, 2021 17:10:05 GMT -6
S/o pixar movies... Soul was basically not a kid's movie. I have really had a hard time trying to suss out out my what actual feelings are about the movie. It was way too deep and heavy to really be a kid's movie. We watched it for family movie night and my oldest kept being like "when is the sad part going to be done". It was a masterpiece in many ways and I suppose I should have prepared myself for what I knew was coming when we watched it... but still. agreed it was so well done, HOWEVER, it made me have way too many feelings for a kids movie and I'll probably never seek it out again and I don't see how a kid can really 'grasp' it like...at all.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:11:10 GMT -6
Post by Jelly on Jan 21, 2021 17:11:10 GMT -6
This is just my unprofessional opinion, but if you avoid things because they make you have feelings, that might be worth some exploration on your part. I mean, I am also known for keeping a feeling chart on the fridge for family conversations so you know, take that with a jar of Morton’s. it's more simplistic than that for me, I just have enough feelings in my REAL life, so if I'm going to read or watch something I want it to be escape from that lol
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Jan 21, 2021 17:12:40 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:12:40 GMT -6
This is just my unprofessional opinion, but if you avoid things because they make you have feelings, that might be worth some exploration on your part. I mean, I am also known for keeping a feeling chart on the fridge for family conversations so you know, take that with a jar of Morton’s. it's more simplistic than that for me, I just have enough feelings in my REAL life, so if I'm going to read or watch something I want it to be escape from that lol If I encounter something that evokes a strong emotional response, it's with me for a long time. Happy or otherwise. It can be overwhelming. I don't think I'm alone in that. Some of it I just fine boring. But it's not always positive to be pushed into emotional reaction. I won't watch Soul. Because I'm not in a place where I can take on additional emotions right now.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:12:54 GMT -6
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Post by rvasc on Jan 21, 2021 17:12:54 GMT -6
This is just my unprofessional opinion, but if you avoid things because they make you have feelings, that might be worth some exploration on your part. I mean, I am also known for keeping a feeling chart on the fridge for family conversations so you know, take that with a jar of Morton’s. Yeah, frankly no. It's taken me 38 years of forcing myself into situations that do nothing but make me miserable, uncomfortable, anxious, etc. Coming to the understanding of my own limits and preferences is the result of self exploration. Not an absence of it. I would like to feel on my own terms, in situations that bring me enjoyment. Strong emotional response is not positive for me. And I am well adjusted and mentally healthy enough now to honor that with in myself. It's lovely that you love art, truly, but I have to be honest I'm a little put off by this campaign as you called it. It's okay for people to experience it differently than you do. Emotions do not process the same for everyone. Choosing not to put oneself in a place that isn't mentally comfortable is a good thing. Trust and respect the boundaries they put in place for themselves, and focus on your own enjoyment. That’s not what I said, but ok.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:13:28 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:13:28 GMT -6
Yeah, frankly no. It's taken me 38 years of forcing myself into situations that do nothing but make me miserable, uncomfortable, anxious, etc. Coming to the understanding of my own limits and preferences is the result of self exploration. Not an absence of it. I would like to feel on my own terms, in situations that bring me enjoyment. Strong emotional response is not positive for me. And I am well adjusted and mentally healthy enough now to honor that with in myself. It's lovely that you love art, truly, but I have to be honest I'm a little put off by this campaign as you called it. It's okay for people to experience it differently than you do. Emotions do not process the same for everyone. Choosing not to put oneself in a place that isn't mentally comfortable is a good thing. Trust and respect the boundaries they put in place for themselves, and focus on your own enjoyment. That’s not what I said, but ok. Ok. What did you say then? Probably a bit more constructive that that response, esp when someone is being honest and open with you.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:18:33 GMT -6
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Post by rvasc on Jan 21, 2021 17:18:33 GMT -6
That’s not what I said, but ok. Ok. What did you say then? Probably a bit more constructive that that response, esp when someone is being honest and open with you. Well, it sounds like you have explored and made decisions that are healthy and good for you. So what I said doesn’t apply, because I said it was worth exploration. And I’m not on a campaign to make everyone love art, but I was really put off by the dismissal of art as an important expression, not just for individuals, but for the nation as a collective. People don’t have to love it, but dismissing it as unimportant, whether it’s your thing or not, which is what was happening at the beginning of the thread (not by any one person), just irritated me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 17:23:16 GMT -6
Ok. What did you say then? Probably a bit more constructive that that response, esp when someone is being honest and open with you. Well, it sounds like you have explored and made decisions that are healthy and good for you. So what I said doesn’t apply, because I said it was worth exploration. And I’m not on a campaign to make everyone love art, but I was really put off by the dismissal of art as an important expression, not just for individuals, but for the nation as a collective. People don’t have to love it, but dismissing it as unimportant, whether it’s your thing or not, which is what was happening at the beginning of the thread (not by any one person), just irritated me. Music counts as art too, though. Maybe the people who dislike poems and writing and painting and one woman slam poetry shows enjoy music. Or not. I'm a feeler and I know there's plenty of non feelers here.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:23:27 GMT -6
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jan 21, 2021 17:23:27 GMT -6
Art is subjective and every piece is not for everyone and it is okay to be dismissive of it as a personal experience. My favprite piece of art is 'View of Toledo'. I can and have stared at it for hours. Something about it just hits me. Other people walk by without a glance. And that's okay.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:23:59 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:23:59 GMT -6
Ok. What did you say then? Probably a bit more constructive that that response, esp when someone is being honest and open with you. Well, it sounds like you have explored and made decisions that are healthy and good for you. So what I said doesn’t apply, because I said it was worth exploration. And I’m not on a campaign to make everyone love art, but I was really put off by the dismissal of art as an important expression, not just for individuals, but for the nation as a collective. People don’t have to love it, but dismissing it as unimportant, whether it’s your thing or not, which is what was happening at the beginning of the thread (not by any one person), just irritated me. So yes, it's what you said. A broadcloth statement of "you need to examine why you don't want to be confronted with feelings" ignores the idea that perhaps people have. Which is what I said. I don't think I'm so unusual in that. It felt a bit condescending to assume someone doesn't know why it's not their thing. I didn't read the earlier statements to mean burn the museums and shutter the theater, rather just personal feelings, but I also wasn't paying that close attention. So I apologize if I missed it.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:26:29 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:26:29 GMT -6
Well, it sounds like you have explored and made decisions that are healthy and good for you. So what I said doesn’t apply, because I said it was worth exploration. And I’m not on a campaign to make everyone love art, but I was really put off by the dismissal of art as an important expression, not just for individuals, but for the nation as a collective. People don’t have to love it, but dismissing it as unimportant, whether it’s your thing or not, which is what was happening at the beginning of the thread (not by any one person), just irritated me. Music counts as art too, though. Maybe the people who dislike poems and writing and painting and one woman slam poetry shows enjoy music. Or not. I'm a feeler and I know there's plenty of non feelers here. I don't believe she ever said music didn't count as art? And I am fairly sure everyone here feels plenty. Ideally, on the terms that will best serve them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 17:30:23 GMT -6
Music counts as art too, though. Maybe the people who dislike poems and writing and painting and one woman slam poetry shows enjoy music. Or not. I'm a feeler and I know there's plenty of non feelers here. I don't believe she ever said music didn't count as art? And I am fairly sure everyone here feels plenty. Ideally, on the terms that will best serve them. There were people here today that said they enjoyed music for the music, not for the words. The discussion today was about poetry and painting style art and music wasn't discussed so I was pointing out those who live music still love art. Also we've had the feelers discussion here before, it wasn't an insult being slung. Some are super feelers and some are not. Those who aren't may just not enjoy art the same. Thats okay.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:31:42 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:31:42 GMT -6
I don't believe she ever said music didn't count as art? And I am fairly sure everyone here feels plenty. Ideally, on the terms that will best serve them. There were people here today that said they enjoyed music for the music, not for the words. The discussion today was about poetry and painting style art and music wasn't discussed so I was pointing out those who live music still love art. Also we've had the feelers discussion here before, it wasn't an insult being slung. Some are super feelers and some are not. Those who aren't may just not enjoy art the same. Thats okay. I think people who feel a lot are the ones who tend to have a harder time with emotional things like art. Or theater. Or music. Personally. My avoidance of humans emoting at me - through several forms of expression - is not because I am lacking in the feelings department. On any level. In looking at the conversation today, I would say that holds true for a lot of the people in it as well. They are not people I consider to be unemotional.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:33:45 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Jan 21, 2021 17:33:45 GMT -6
There were people here today that said they enjoyed music for the music, not for the words. The discussion today was about poetry and painting style art and music wasn't discussed so I was pointing out those who live music still love art. Also we've had the feelers discussion here before, it wasn't an insult being slung. Some are super feelers and some are not. Those who aren't may just not enjoy art the same. Thats okay. I think people who feel a lot are the ones who tend to have a harder time with emotional things like art. Or theater. Or music. Personally. My avoidance of humans emoting at me - through several forms of expression - is not because I am lacking in the feelings department. On any level. In looking at the conversation today, I would say that holds true for a lot of the people in it as well. They are not people I consider to be unemotional. Can I give this a standing ovation? Well, I am.
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jan 21, 2021 17:34:06 GMT -6
My bet is on Rainbow though. He's pretty scrappy. Bernie* has survived a lot. He had a funky eye infection, I overestimated how much food to give him when we are on vacation and he had a hurt fin when I let DS help me move him when I was cleaning his tank. *named after Bernie Kosar not Sanders to be clear
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Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:36:07 GMT -6
All of this is hilarious as I actually enjoy a lot of paintings. My favorite afternoon in the city was when my mom and I had a docent at the AI of Chi give a whole talk on Cassatt. I love her work.
However, I could totally understand someone taking one look and yawning. Domestic stuff speaks to me, and it's domain I can be in peacefully.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:37:31 GMT -6
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Post by wasabi on Jan 21, 2021 17:37:31 GMT -6
There were people here today that said they enjoyed music for the music, not for the words. The discussion today was about poetry and painting style art and music wasn't discussed so I was pointing out those who live music still love art. Also we've had the feelers discussion here before, it wasn't an insult being slung. Some are super feelers and some are not. Those who aren't may just not enjoy art the same. Thats okay. I think people who feel a lot are the ones who tend to have a harder time with emotional things like art. Or theater. Or music. Personally. My avoidance of humans emoting at me - through several forms of expression - is not because I am lacking in the feelings department. On any level. In looking at the conversation today, I would say that holds true for a lot of the people in it as well. They are not people I consider to be unemotional. I kinda missed the whole art discussion I guess. But yeah I find it very off to think that those who avoid outward emotions don’t feel them as deeply. I hate the whole “super feeler” thing in general though. It’s always very condescending.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 17:37:53 GMT -6
There were people here today that said they enjoyed music for the music, not for the words. The discussion today was about poetry and painting style art and music wasn't discussed so I was pointing out those who live music still love art. Also we've had the feelers discussion here before, it wasn't an insult being slung. Some are super feelers and some are not. Those who aren't may just not enjoy art the same. Thats okay. I think people who feel a lot are the ones who tend to have a harder time with emotional things like art. Or theater. Or music. Personally. My avoidance of humans emoting at me - through several forms of expression - is not because I am lacking in the feelings department. On any level. In looking at the conversation today, I would say that holds true for a lot of the people in it as well. They are not people I consider to be unemotional. I didn't say they were unemotional. You're misunderstanding. Feeler is just a term for those who are super emoters.
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Post by wasabi on Jan 21, 2021 17:38:45 GMT -6
I mean really. How obnoxious. Super feelers 😑
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jan 21, 2021 17:39:26 GMT -6
I think Romeo and Juliet is a poor choice to introduce young people to Shakespeare. Am I doing this right? I agree. I also think that the comedies are generally better than the tragedies. I wish we’d spent more time reading Much Ado About Nothing and less time reading King Lear. I loved Much Ado About Nothing. I can’t remember anything about it really but I remember enjoying it so much than fucking Beowulf. (No idea if that is spelled right).
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Jan 21, 2021 17:39:54 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:39:54 GMT -6
I think people who feel a lot are the ones who tend to have a harder time with emotional things like art. Or theater. Or music. Personally. My avoidance of humans emoting at me - through several forms of expression - is not because I am lacking in the feelings department. On any level. In looking at the conversation today, I would say that holds true for a lot of the people in it as well. They are not people I consider to be unemotional. I didn't say they were unemotional. You're misunderstanding. Feeler is just a term for those who are super emoters. No, I'm not misunderstanding. I'm disagreeing.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:40:41 GMT -6
Post by STP on Jan 21, 2021 17:40:41 GMT -6
I agree. I also think that the comedies are generally better than the tragedies. I wish we’d spent more time reading Much Ado About Nothing and less time reading King Lear. I loved Much Ado About Nothing. I can’t remember anything about it really but I remember enjoying it so much than fucking Beowulf. (No idea if that is spelled right). There's a new feminist translation that puts Beowulf into modern idioms and it's a hoot. You do not have to read it. But if you wanted to.
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