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Post by dc2london on Jul 12, 2017 6:49:24 GMT -6
I'm wondering if junior released them, because with such a scoop it's hard to keep claiming the Times is fake news and failing? Or he is just impulsive and dumb like dad. This is kind of where I'm at. He saw an opportunity to stick it to the Times |
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Post by oreobitsy on Jul 12, 2017 7:11:19 GMT -6
I'm wondering if junior released them, because with such a scoop it's hard to keep claiming the Times is fake news and failing? Or he is just impulsive and dumb like dad. This is kind of where I'm at. He saw an opportunity to stick it to the Times That logic is so bad. When I heard he released them trying to outscoop the Times, my first thought was, "Dang, the Times had it right about that story, they really do care about making sure the info they get is solid." How is it only Wednesday morning?!?! |
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Post by pianolove on Jul 12, 2017 7:40:51 GMT -6
I'm on a self imposed politics break and then I went on Twitter and forgot about al the accounts I follow. Saw this tweet, thought of you guys, and not surprisingly you're all over it!
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Post by catspajamas on Jul 12, 2017 7:53:34 GMT -6
I'm just... WTF is happening? Can you imagine, just imagine, if an email came out that Chelsea had been emailing with a random Russian about dirt on Trump and the email leaked? The GOP would have shut down the government demanding the entire Clinton clan go to jail. And now they're like "meh, whatevs" Relatedly? I really want a Pod Save America "Repeal and go fuck yourself" t shirt. +1 |
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Post by hangry on Jul 12, 2017 8:05:16 GMT -6
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Post by mb3 on Jul 12, 2017 9:16:36 GMT -6
Kushner was my original pick but not since the emails came out because like you said, it doesn't do anything for him. I'm not sure if it was said here or in an article I read but I'm now leaning towards Russians being the source as it further destabilizes things. This would make a lot of sense but the Times articles keep sourcing three advisers to the WH. Duh, I missed that. One suggestion my dad had was Eric Trump could be a source as he could be making a power play. I'm not sure I believe that though. Of course one could always argue that the Russians ARE advising the White House 😉 |
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Post by shadesofgold on Jul 12, 2017 9:27:51 GMT -6
I'm on a self imposed politics break and then I went on Twitter and forgot about al the accounts I follow. Saw this tweet, thought of you guys, and not surprisingly you're all over it! Looks like his team of babysitters lawyers took too long on their coffee run this morning... |
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Post by pianolove on Jul 12, 2017 9:52:11 GMT -6
You mean you've never seen The Godfather?? Please to watch immediately! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 10:21:02 GMT -6
So I read an article today that said that the WH theory on the very first article is that it was leaked after Manafort's testimony to Congress. I re-read the article (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html) and it refers to "confidential government documents" that were read to the NYT.
So my new theoretical timeline is:
- Kushner's lawyers "discover" emails and they amend his form
- Manafort testifies to Congress
- First article: Congressional leak based off of Manafort
- Group huddle on AF1 with "adoption" defense meanwhile Kasowitz is prepping a "Dem set-up" defense; both release
- Kushner gets off plane and calls his own lawyers - who already had a plan in place in case it leaks
- Second article: Kushner team tells NYT that there was an email and points everyone in direction of Jr
- Third article: Kushner team provides email, another hit to Jr
The main reason I think it was Kushner is that they're the ones with the A-team defense lawyers. I don't see anyone in the WH acting with such coordination/precision/execution. They're a goddamn mess.
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Post by hangry on Jul 12, 2017 10:21:49 GMT -6
You mean you've never seen The Godfather?? Please to watch immediately! What I should have said was, I hadn't heard of DJTjr as Fredo before here. But it has been a while, I should add The Godfather to my rewatch list! What I laughed at was that they basically said the whole damn family is a bunch of Fredo's, which made sense and made me laugh/cry. |
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Post by shadesofgold on Jul 12, 2017 10:35:09 GMT -6
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Post by pesto on Jul 12, 2017 10:41:04 GMT -6
Not that it matters all too much, but I thought it was interesting that guy who was writing those viral tweets about working on that story for a year and having jr just tweet it out actually had zero to do with the story.
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Post by shadesofgold on Jul 12, 2017 11:00:50 GMT -6
Not that it matters all too much, but I thought it was interesting that guy who was writing those viral tweets about working on that story for a year and having jr just tweet it out actually had zero to do with the story. He said as much when it became clear people misunderstood. I mean, the bylines should speak for themselves. I don't blame him for people lazily retweeting without having their reporters straight. Eta: there is no monopoly on investigating potential collusion with Russia ie the biggest, most meandering political story in decades. |
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Post by pianolove on Jul 12, 2017 11:52:39 GMT -6
You mean you've never seen The Godfather?? Please to watch immediately! What I should have said was, I hadn't heard of DJTjr as Fredo before here. But it has been a while, I should add The Godfather to my rewatch list! What I laughed at was that they basically said the whole damn family is a bunch of Fredo's, which made sense and made me laugh/cry. Ohh I see lol, yeah it's definitely worth a rewatch  Yeah the article had me laugh/crying too, like is this really our country right now? |
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Post by dc2london on Jul 12, 2017 13:27:01 GMT -6
My mum said that since he's the Fredo of the Cheeto family we should just call him Frito.
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Post by byjove on Jul 12, 2017 13:39:05 GMT -6
My mum said that since he's the Fredo of the Cheeto family we should just call him Frito. I was trying to search for a Frito gif or meme and the results got really weird fast given the context (and there was one with Putin wanting black fried chicken), so I am deciding against that. Although I was tempted by the Bill Murray you get a Frito pie, but I don't even want to know what a Frito pie would insinuate in this context.  |
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Post by byjove on Jul 13, 2017 9:44:52 GMT -6
Sen Feinstein wants Trump Jr to testify in front of the SJC next week and subpoenas are possible if he refuses. Is this new?
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Post by pesto on Jul 13, 2017 9:51:29 GMT -6
Sen Feinstein wants Trump Jr to testify in front of the SJC next week and subpoenas are possible if he refuses. Is this new? They've been saying they want him to testify, but I think this morning Grassley wrote the official letter to junior. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 9:54:26 GMT -6
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Post by pesto on Jul 13, 2017 10:06:09 GMT -6
I'm excited for Graham to question jr if that hearing happens. Yesterday at Wray's confirmation hearing he was pissed about those emails.
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Post by cara on Jul 13, 2017 10:27:45 GMT -6
Does anyone think under oath means anything to the Trump family? Nope. They will lie until they're forced to tell some semblance of the truth. |
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Post by ktg on Jul 13, 2017 10:28:25 GMT -6
Does anyone think under oath means anything to the Trump family?  |
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Post by dc2london on Jul 13, 2017 12:37:15 GMT -6
I'm excited for Graham to question jr if that hearing happens. Yesterday at Wray's confirmation hearing he was pissed about those emails. And he was taking heat on twitter earlier for asking about that instead of HILLARY'S EMAILS |
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Post by dc2london on Jul 13, 2017 12:37:26 GMT -6
this is interesting.
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Post by oreobitsy on Jul 13, 2017 12:47:32 GMT -6
That Bush letter is so quaint, like looking back at a simpler time when politicians had to worry about doing the right thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 12:56:45 GMT -6
Does anyone think under oath means anything to the Trump family? Uh no. I think it's more that people hope that he does lie and then gets caught later. And by "people," I mean me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 13:03:52 GMT -6
This is an interesting question. The email doesn't have her name anywhere. You think Jared just remembered her name out of thin air if it was really just a 10-minute meeting that he barely knew about? Seems to indicate there are other records out there of this encounter.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 13, 2017 13:16:14 GMT -6
This is an interesting question. The email doesn't have her name anywhere. You think Jared just remembered her name out of thin air if it was really just a 10-minute meeting that he barely knew about? Seems to indicate there are other records out there of this encounter. I have read her name approximately 3 billion times in the last 24 hours and I still don't know how to spell or pronounce it. |
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Post by byjove on Jul 13, 2017 13:47:39 GMT -6
This is an interesting question. The email doesn't have her name anywhere. You think Jared just remembered her name out of thin air if it was really just a 10-minute meeting that he barely knew about? Seems to indicate there are other records out there of this encounter. I have read her name approximately 3 billion times in the last 24 hours and I still don't know how to spell or pronounce it. It sounds like she should be a figure skater. I am pretending an Olympic announcer says it when I read it. |
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Post by pesto on Jul 13, 2017 15:40:26 GMT -6
This is an interesting question. The email doesn't have her name anywhere. You think Jared just remembered her name out of thin air if it was really just a 10-minute meeting that he barely knew about? Seems to indicate there are other records out there of this encounter. Woah. Good point. I really doubt the conversation completely stopped with that meeting. |
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