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Post by jkjacq on May 21, 2020 19:39:14 GMT -6
So Harris is a great VP pick so they can lock down a state they have no chance of losing? There’s more to it than that. Biden has multiple strong women candidates to choose from. A great problem to have, but a tough one to make a decision on. Well we had a young dynamic field of presidential candidates a year and a half ago and we still ended up with a middle road old white guy. I’d rather have Kamala than Amy
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Post by mathlete on May 21, 2020 22:04:44 GMT -6
Not sure if it was accurate, but I saw Duckworth was being interviewed by his camp.
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Post by athn64 on May 21, 2020 23:21:22 GMT -6
Not sure if it was accurate, but I saw Duckworth was being interviewed by his camp. I love Tammy but I don't want him to take her from us! She's doing such a great job in the Senate.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 23:38:18 GMT -6
That’s my opinion and I strongly believe choosing a white woman really takes for granted votes of nonwhite Democrats. I agree with you. A Biden/Klobuchar ticket makes me want to lie face down on the floor. 😑😩😒 Also I feel like Karen has lost all meaning. I see it thrown around by every side to mean different things. I feel bad for anyone really named Karen.
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Post by jaygee on May 21, 2020 23:54:20 GMT -6
I’ve already decided in my mind that it will be Klobuchar.
Any word on if he’s vetting Senator Cortez Masto? That’s the other very strategic pick to me.
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Post by orangebird2020 on May 22, 2020 0:18:01 GMT -6
Oh. Whew. They are "officially" vetting Kamala and Gretchen too. and the AZ woman. whose name I just forgot. Lujean? The New Mexico Governor is Michelle Lujan Grisham. I think I have seen headlines mentioning her as a possible VP.
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Post by jkjacq on May 22, 2020 5:33:22 GMT -6
and the AZ woman. whose name I just forgot. Lujean? The New Mexico Governor is Michelle Lujan Grisham. I think I have seen headlines mentioning her as a possible VP. Thank you!!! I totally blanked on her name For the record I watched an interview with her the other night and she was asked about the vp spot and she laughed it off. But I think she’d be a interesting choice.
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Post by KnightRyder on May 22, 2020 5:55:26 GMT -6
I see why Klobuchar is a safe choice who might nab some moderate/undecided votes. But with several good choices who are women of color, I will be upset if he doesn’t choose one of them. He’s been clear that he sees himself as a transition president. So if the VP will effectively run as the incumbent in 4 years and the party puts up a white woman as VP, are we saying “Yeah we want to hear from women of color as leaders, just not now, not for 4 years, probably 8, maybe even 12 (Biden presidency + 2 terms of VP as president).
I don’t know. I’m cynical and tired of being disappointed. And I clearly don’t possess the optimism to work on a campaign!
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Post by cakewench on May 22, 2020 6:16:12 GMT -6
That’s my opinion and I strongly believe choosing a white woman really takes for granted votes of nonwhite Democrats. I agree with you. A Biden/Klobuchar ticket makes me want to lie face down on the floor. 😑😩😒 Also I feel like Karen has lost all meaning. I see it thrown around by every side to mean different things. I feel bad for anyone really named Karen. My bff is named Karen. She's like the exact opposite of "a Karen"... I should ask her if it bothers her lol
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Post by blurnette989 on May 22, 2020 10:22:23 GMT -6
I agree with you. A Biden/Klobuchar ticket makes me want to lie face down on the floor. 😑😩😒 Also I feel like Karen has lost all meaning. I see it thrown around by every side to mean different things. I feel bad for anyone really named Karen. My bff is named Karen. She's like the exact opposite of "a Karen"... I should ask her if it bothers her lol Probs not of she isn't a Karen 😝
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Post by Ls2012 on May 22, 2020 10:57:44 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on May 22, 2020 12:15:45 GMT -6
I’m taking this advice, honestly. I’m seeing a general “meh” from Black twitter, but if Black people are offended I support that too. I will follow the consensus on this one.
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Post by jaygee on May 22, 2020 12:20:23 GMT -6
I thought this was an interesting viewpoint. Also, y’all know I’m extremely nervous about a Senator Harris VP pick and there is a tweet in this thread that hits on some of my concern.
Here’s the specific tweet of you don’t want to wade through the whole thing;
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Post by dc2london on May 22, 2020 12:28:31 GMT -6
I found this thread really valuable
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Post by blurnette989 on May 22, 2020 13:14:43 GMT -6
I found this thread really valuable This thread also reminds me to remind you all to double check your implicit bias. Take a few tests- figure out your weak spots- i.e. my implicit bias favors men belong in leadership and science roles despite being good at math/science and fucking leadership myself as a #badassbitch. Take a test! Check it out. Learn how to recognize your boss so you can do better and be better- implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html
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Post by Ls2012 on May 22, 2020 13:33:38 GMT -6
I thought this was an interesting viewpoint. Also, y’all know I’m extremely nervous about a Senator Harris VP pick and there is a tweet in this thread that hits on some of my concern. Here’s the specific tweet of you don’t want to wade through the whole thing; This is exactly what I'm thinking. We deserved to have a better choice. We deserved someone who wasn't going to step in their own sh*t and make it easy for 45 and cult to mock. I'm used to Joe's feet in his mouth. It's not enough to mean well. He needs to do better. I'm frustrated all over again that this is our candidate when we had, in my mind, much better choices.
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Post by elle on May 22, 2020 13:48:10 GMT -6
Yep. Still hate everything about this election.
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Post by sctiger on May 22, 2020 20:59:29 GMT -6
Can someone help me? I'm in a debate (I know 🙄) with some asshole conservatives about mail in voting. I know it's secure but apparently there were some South Carolina ballots found in Maryland and they are all saying that this means mail isn't a secure way to vote.
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Post by AmyG on May 22, 2020 21:44:31 GMT -6
Can someone help me? I'm in a debate (I know 🙄) with some asshole conservatives about mail in voting. I know it's secure but apparently there were some South Carolina ballots found in Maryland and they are all saying that this means mail isn't a secure way to vote. If you trust the post office to mail you your voter id, driver's license etc to you and get it to the right person. then you have to trust the post office to mail your ballot to and fro.
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Post by AmyG on May 22, 2020 21:52:26 GMT -6
Arizona has allowed anyone who wants to vote from home since 2007 And the Republicans have done little complaining about it once they got used to the idea. President isn't complaining about AZ Secretary of State sending vote from home applications to every registered AZ that isn't already on the vote from home list. So guess he's not worried about AZ, but he should be.
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Post by blurnette989 on May 22, 2020 23:53:57 GMT -6
sctiger millions of US military members have voted by mail for decades as they are often stationed away from their home states. State department too, but I find the military line pulls more sway with conservatives.
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Post by KnightRyder on May 23, 2020 4:40:41 GMT -6
sctiger millions of US military members have voted by mail for decades as they are often stationed away from their home states. State department too, but I find the military line pulls more sway with conservatives. And the president himself does it! I’m late, but I have some data if you’re still at it. I did this same throwdown last week. I never engage on FB, but this particular argument really gets to me, and I tell myself even if what I post isn’t changing the mind of the person I’m writing to, there may be some other readers who are enlightened Mail is the most common method of voter fraud (24% of cases, so still not even 1/4 of all cases), but it happened just happened 491 times from 2000-2012: votingrights.news21.com/interactive/election-fraud-database/ More stats from MIT (Admin Issues and Suggested Reading parts especially) electionlab.mit.edu/research/voting-mail-and-absentee-voting/Gov’t reports: www.eac.gov/research-and-data/studies-and-reportsAbove link shows that from 2012-2018, only between 0.9 and 1.4% of returned mailed ballots were not able to be counted. GA (I know, I know) WV and KY are appointing special task forces to manage mail in voting and monitor for fraud. In CA and a few other states you can track your ballot online. More good info here: www.npr.org/2020/05/15/856189149/it-s-partly-on-me-gop-official-says-fraud-warnings-hamper-vote-by-mail-pushLastly, conservatives would probably reject this source but there’s good info, links here: www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/weird-partisan-math-vote-by-mail/amp
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Post by sctiger on May 23, 2020 5:36:32 GMT -6
Thank you! They are stuck on the fact that ballots were found in Maryland that were meant for SC. I used a lot of the arguments brought up here but facts don't convince these people. I got a lot of "I be voting in person, that's the way it's meant to be, everyone can get out and vote, etc." They were so upset that the voting info can from the Vote Blue website that they refused to see that it was nonpartisan and that Republican websites had the same info on mail in ballots.
This was on the education advocacy group I'm in. After last night I decided that I'm going to unfollow the page and stop checking it so often and not engage in the posts. It gets me too worked up to think about how many SC teachers there out there falling for misinformation, believing lies, and continuing to vote for politicians who don't advocate for education. I am not going to let those idiots ruin another evening by allowing myself to get upset over their stupidity.
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Post by cakewench on May 24, 2020 16:59:53 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on May 25, 2020 12:13:46 GMT -6
Interesting point:
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Post by AmyG on May 26, 2020 13:13:13 GMT -6
You know how you can get a photo printed on fabric? Biden should get a mask with his face from nose down printed on it, in real life size. Make it into a custom fit mask. Then he can wear a mask and look like himself and thumb his nose (not really, keep hands off face!) At anyone who says he looks like a mobster or whatever. Like show how you can wear a mask and be socially responsible and also not look scary or standoffish, [insert all other words used to make biden seem wrong when he wears a mask]
We also need some publicity, ads on tv, spotify, all social media with nfl stars, body builders, hunky guys and toss in biden etc to show real men wear masks. Show women and men of commerce, stars, religious leaders, toss in biden that real leaders wear masks.
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Post by starbuck on May 26, 2020 13:15:45 GMT -6
You know how you can get a photo printed on fabric? Biden should get a mask with his face from nose down printed on it, in real life size. Make it into a custom fit mask. Then he can wear a mask and look like himself and thumb his nose (not really, keep hands off face!) At anyone who says he looks like a mobster or whatever. Like show how you can wear a mask and be socially responsible and also not look scary or standoffish, [insert all other words used to make biden seem wrong when he wears a mask] We also need some publicity, ads on tv, spotify, all social media with nfl stars, body builders, hunky guys and toss in biden etc to show real men wear masks. Show women and men of commerce, stars, religious leaders, toss in biden that real leaders wear masks. I'd like him to do that but like with a really ginormous handlebar mustache on it.
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Post by blurnette989 on May 26, 2020 14:06:51 GMT -6
You know how you can get a photo printed on fabric? Biden should get a mask with his face from nose down printed on it, in real life size. Make it into a custom fit mask. Then he can wear a mask and look like himself and thumb his nose (not really, keep hands off face!) At anyone who says he looks like a mobster or whatever. Like show how you can wear a mask and be socially responsible and also not look scary or standoffish, [insert all other words used to make biden seem wrong when he wears a mask] We also need some publicity, ads on tv, spotify, all social media with nfl stars, body builders, hunky guys and toss in biden etc to show real men wear masks. Show women and men of commerce, stars, religious leaders, toss in biden that real leaders wear masks. I'd like him to do that but like with a really ginormous handlebar mustache on it. This but every public appearance is a different 'stache.
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Post by dc2london on May 26, 2020 17:29:48 GMT -6
Can someone help me? I'm in a debate (I know 🙄) with some asshole conservatives about mail in voting. I know it's secure but apparently there were some South Carolina ballots found in Maryland and they are all saying that this means mail isn't a secure way to vote. I believe these are called absentee ballots? Lol do they have any idea how many military people live temporarily in Maryland? Fucking Fox News.
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Post by AmyG on May 26, 2020 19:04:40 GMT -6
You know how you can get a photo printed on fabric? Biden should get a mask with his face from nose down printed on it, in real life size. Make it into a custom fit mask. Then he can wear a mask and look like himself and thumb his nose (not really, keep hands off face!) At anyone who says he looks like a mobster or whatever. Like show how you can wear a mask and be socially responsible and also not look scary or standoffish, [insert all other words used to make biden seem wrong when he wears a mask] We also need some publicity, ads on tv, spotify, all social media with nfl stars, body builders, hunky guys and toss in biden etc to show real men wear masks. Show women and men of commerce, stars, religious leaders, toss in biden that real leaders wear masks. I'd like him to do that but like with a really ginormous handlebar mustache on it. but of course! Like some of them for serious events, no smiles, just straight face. non serious things, go with diff things, like different facial hair, mustache, smiling big teeth. color coordinate with his suits or tie. I could see that being a statement piece.
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