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Post by blurnette989 on Jan 23, 2020 8:22:44 GMT -6
Hugs @darlene. Don't let that butt get you down. You will rock that presentation because you are fantastic.
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Post by cakewench on Jan 23, 2020 8:38:52 GMT -6
Good luck with your presentation today, @darlene! You will kick ass! As the spouse of a super Republican Catholic, I feel your pain. Don't let him get you down today - channel your inner Schiff and lay them all to waste
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 23, 2020 8:40:07 GMT -6
good luck today @darlene, You are gonna rock your presentation.
Print out that poem about how there was no one left to stand for me (first they came) and put it on the refrigerator, a copy in his coat, a copy on the bathroom mirror. Maybe he'll get the point.
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Post by blurnette989 on Jan 23, 2020 9:07:18 GMT -6
I also don't know how you guys who have spouses with very different political ideas do it, whether it's apathy or polar opposites I couldn't do it. I might be too intense for my own good.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jan 23, 2020 9:10:57 GMT -6
Good luck, Darlene.
Sorry about your h.
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Post by cnf on Jan 23, 2020 9:15:22 GMT -6
My H and I similar. I'm very liberal and he grew up in a very Fox news, Rush Limbaugh loving household. He participated in the Young Republicans in high school and volunteered on some campaign in that time. Since we've gotten together he's gotten off Fox News and come around a significant amount. He's definitely a squarely middle of the spectrum independent moderate at this point. That said, I don't know if I can ever get him to vote dem because it's so freaking ingrained in him and it makes me angry. We used to be able to talk politics, including our differences, in a very civil manner. We even enjoy discussing our differences in stances. Then Trump won, we had an all out screaming match at some point only a few months into his presidency, and haven't really spoken politics since, which I hate. I know he doesn't like Trump, but I still can't even bring myself to discuss politics with him anymore. Not until that Orange fuck is out of office.
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Post by cnf on Jan 23, 2020 9:22:43 GMT -6
OH FUN. They just moved the Doomsday clock today. We're now 100 seconds from midnight.
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Post by elle on Jan 23, 2020 9:26:37 GMT -6
OH FUN. They just moved the Doomsday clock today. We're now 100 seconds from midnight. That was not something I needed to read first thing this morning.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 23, 2020 9:26:55 GMT -6
I also don't know how you guys who have spouses with very different political ideas do it, whether it's apathy or polar opposites I couldn't do it. I might be too intense for my own good. I regularly county my blessings for having a spouse and family who largely agree with me on politics. I'm more progressive than the rest of my family, but we agree on the most important issues. H's family....less so.
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Post by LaRo422 on Jan 23, 2020 9:39:34 GMT -6
As the spouse of a super Republican Catholic, I feel your pain. Don't let him get you down today - channel your inner Schiff and lay them all to waste Oh, hi, are we married to the same person? He is a lapsed catholic and I don’t know if I’d say he’s super republican, but he’s definitely conservative. My dad is the same (used to be catholic though. Converted to baptist). It’s frustrating. They’re some of the nicest men I know. They both go out of their way to help others and have major respect for women. They just do like a lot of people do and excuse 45’s behavior and basically say, better him than a Dem. We occasionally talk politics (mostly with my husband) and he is, at least, open to listening. I’m hoping this is what makes the change. I used to be a republican :shudder: and it took going to college, and oddly enough, joining a message board. Interacting with people out of my normal social circle really changed things for me, so I hope it does the same for him.
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Post by bugglesbee on Jan 23, 2020 10:55:38 GMT -6
cnf H and I are the same down to the screaming match post election. He is not a fan of trump, but will play devil’s advocate sometimes and it’s incredibly frustrating. I don’t bring up politics with him anymore because it truly strains our marriage.
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Post by roloma on Jan 23, 2020 11:06:32 GMT -6
Guys, my husband is a full on Bernie Bro. It's just as bad, I think.
At first I thought he was just your run of the mill Bernie supporter but nope, turns out he is an actual bro. We do not talk politics.
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 23, 2020 11:12:35 GMT -6
Guys, my husband is a full on Bernie Bro. It's just as bad, I think. At first I thought he was just your run of the mill Bernie supporter but nope, turns out he is an actual bro. We do not talk politics. You have my sorries.
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Post by elle on Jan 23, 2020 11:17:57 GMT -6
Guys, my husband is a full on Bernie Bro. It's just as bad, I think. At first I thought he was just your run of the mill Bernie supporter but nope, turns out he is an actual bro. We do not talk politics. Ugh. You have my sympathy. I consider myself truly fortunate because I started dating a Republican, got engaged to a moderate and married a progressive (my influence on H, lol).
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Post by roloma on Jan 23, 2020 11:21:50 GMT -6
Guys, my husband is a full on Bernie Bro. It's just as bad, I think. At first I thought he was just your run of the mill Bernie supporter but nope, turns out he is an actual bro. We do not talk politics. Ugh. You have my sympathy. I consider myself truly fortunate because I started dating a Republican, got engaged to a moderate and married a progressive (my influence on H, lol). I don't know what the fuck happened...it was a total shock to realize it. He definitely wasn't like this in 2016 (although he saw Hillary as a problematic candidate, he didn't complain and voted for her) and really wasn't like this even a year ago. His one saving grace is that I know he will vote for the dem even if it isn't Bernie, so I guess he isn't quite as bad as the Bernie or Bust Bros.
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Post by elle on Jan 23, 2020 11:24:08 GMT -6
Ugh. You have my sympathy. I consider myself truly fortunate because I started dating a Republican, got engaged to a moderate and married a progressive (my influence on H, lol). I don't know what the fuck happened...it was a total shock to realize it. He definitely wasn't like this in 2016 (although he saw Hillary as a problematic candidate, he didn't complain and voted for her) and really wasn't like this even a year ago. His one saving grace is that I know he will vote for the dem even if it isn't Bernie, so I guess he isn't quite as bad as the Bernie or Bust Bros. That's good at least. I'm just so tired of people who are willing to let the world burn if they don't get their way.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 23, 2020 11:28:42 GMT -6
Guys, my husband is a full on Bernie Bro. It's just as bad, I think. At first I thought he was just your run of the mill Bernie supporter but nope, turns out he is an actual bro. We do not talk politics. Ugh. You have my sympathy. I consider myself truly fortunate because I started dating a Republican, got engaged to a moderate and married a progressive (my influence on H, lol). I converted my college boyfriend Sorrynotsorry
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 23, 2020 11:31:47 GMT -6
Ugh. You have my sympathy. I consider myself truly fortunate because I started dating a Republican, got engaged to a moderate and married a progressive (my influence on H, lol). I converted my college boyfriend Sorrynotsorry I converted XSO. His entire family is die hard gop.
He's now not. Which makes for uncomfortable screaming matches between him and his father.
they are welcome also notsorry
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Post by cakewench on Jan 23, 2020 12:08:50 GMT -6
Jim Lehrer died:
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Post by blurnette989 on Jan 23, 2020 12:24:29 GMT -6
I'm very lucky. On Our first date MH wooed me with how upset he was about strip mining in the Appalachian mountains and his protest endeavours against it.
We were meant to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 12:58:27 GMT -6
I also don't know how you guys who have spouses with very different political ideas do it, whether it's apathy or polar opposites I couldn't do it. I might be too intense for my own good. Trust me. It's fucking hard. We met when I was in my early twenties, and I didn't care about politics and didn't follow it much at all. When he and I met, we never talked about politics or "which side we were on". I became passionate about social issues and politics only within the past ten years or so, and he slowly showed his leanings over the years. I love him, but damn it's hard to live with someone who doesn't have the same convictions as me. Also, I love you.
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Post by taconight on Jan 23, 2020 13:01:11 GMT -6
I feel pretty lucky in the spouse department. My H was active duty military from Texas when we met. Definitely Republican, but leaned moderate. Years later, he is as disgusted with the GOP as me, and votes Dem. His family is a lost cause, unfortunately, and we have a very strained relationship with them.
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Post by riverrider on Jan 23, 2020 13:03:01 GMT -6
I'm not going to get into details, but I had a not great conversation with MH this morning that centered on politics, that escalated by him saying something along the lines of "my life is great why should I care?". He claims he's not a drumpf supporter. He claims he doesn't support any politician. But he literally cannot see how 45 is destroying this country. As long as it's not a Dem, he is content. My anxiety is already high today because I have an important presentation at work, so this was most def not needed. tldr; just venting. MH is a butt. I'm sorry @darlene . I actually asked my boyfriend for some space and time apart about a week ago after we had a similar discussion. He swears he is Dem but doesn't see what is happening as anything too bad. He also mentioned that if I didn't live down in NOLA (was there for 10 plus years and am from Midwest MN) I wouldn't care as much about POC as I do. That I wouldn't see anything wrong with how they are treated if I hadn't "been exposed to them" like I was. And that I only care now about POC because my son is biracial.
The space is going to be for good but I need some time to get my shit together and a place to live lined up that isn't my parents house.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 13:52:01 GMT -6
I'm not going to get into details, but I had a not great conversation with MH this morning that centered on politics, that escalated by him saying something along the lines of "my life is great why should I care?". He claims he's not a drumpf supporter. He claims he doesn't support any politician. But he literally cannot see how 45 is destroying this country. As long as it's not a Dem, he is content. My anxiety is already high today because I have an important presentation at work, so this was most def not needed. tldr; just venting. MH is a butt. I'm sorry @darlene . I actually asked my boyfriend for some space and time apart about a week ago after we had a similar discussion. He swears he is Dem but doesn't see what is happening as anything too bad. He also mentioned that if I didn't live down in NOLA (was there for 10 plus years and am from Midwest MN) I wouldn't care as much about POC as I do. That I wouldn't see anything wrong with how they are treated if I hadn't "been exposed to them" like I was. And that I only care now about POC because my son is biracial.
The space is going to be for good but I need some time to get my shit together and a place to live lined up that isn't my parents house.
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We can sit on this bench together. Hugs.
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Post by byjove on Jan 23, 2020 14:13:10 GMT -6
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Post by JukEboX on Jan 23, 2020 14:28:33 GMT -6
I don't like to go to far into our stuff here and DW can speak for herself because she is around as you know. As for my family my parents voted for Asshat because "at least it wasn't a Dem." I haven't really pressed them on it. DW does. Them and my grandparents make us cringe a good amount. one side of my family is in Florida so there is that which is where my grandparents are so you know where they lean. The other half is up here and I haven't really heard them talk politics. My family is all first responders so of course they follow the "I support our first responders train" which I don't think has a political party. I press my dad when I go visit on stupid shit and how he watches fox news as well as the crap that they peddle. My mom doesn't really talk about it almost ever only just when to follow conversation. I am lucky I guess. My family is all really great and caring people. Which is how I got DW and MIL to convert from their family. DW can talk more about that if she wants. Sorry for your @darlene and riverrider. I am super happy DW is so passionate and super passionate enough for the both of us when I am not present.
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Post by JukEboX on Jan 23, 2020 14:34:02 GMT -6
Also doing our taxes and I am going to add the obligatory Fuck Trump and his fake ass tax cut.
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 23, 2020 15:16:54 GMT -6
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What started out as a question about how I feel about Common Core just devolved into why do WE need to spend as much on education as NY or CA. my rebuttal was why do we need to spend a trillion dollars on a war?
What does that have to do with anything. Well when people start complaining about how much we're spending EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN, you never hear them complain about how much we spend elsewhere. And the difference of what we spend on defense v education is huge. And the fact that we spend near the bottom per child in the nation shows. Our kids are NOT as educated or ready for college as other states.
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Post by oreobitsy on Jan 23, 2020 15:17:48 GMT -6
My now husband claims he converted me in college. I grew up with conservative parents and probably was already going to head to a more liberal worldview once out of the house. But it probably didn't hurt having a crush on this smart guy who helped me see other sides. @darlene, I'm sorry. I hope the presentation was great for you even with the bad start to the day. riverrider I'm sorry for you too. I hope some space gives you some peace and you are settled where you need to be soon. Hugs.
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