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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:23:30 GMT -6
this line of argument from Castor is even more infuriating since he was the guy the GOP sent out to find a way to impeach Obama
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:26:22 GMT -6
well yeah, the House had to negotiate with the Obama Executive branch for testimony and documents, but Obama neverevereverever instructed his government to completely obstruct. Trump, OTOH, did. So it would be unreasonable to expect Dems to wait for him to cooperate. He already said he won't.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:26:41 GMT -6
this is pathetic. I mean genuinely pathetic.
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Post by JukEboX on Dec 9, 2019 9:28:39 GMT -6
Don't invoke professor Turley. He is a TV talking head looking to further his legal career.
The GOP base believes him because he flipped on Ds after Clinton's impeachment and he dumbbed it down for them to understand.
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Post by Minerva on Dec 9, 2019 9:30:59 GMT -6
😂
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Post by JukEboX on Dec 9, 2019 9:32:44 GMT -6
1. Summary of the phone call is not verbatium and it says so on the summary. He was asking for Ukraine to look into company to catch up Hunter Biden. 2. Zalinsky is being pressured in back channels through Rudy and Trump is preventing anyone of his team from testifying. Zalinsky will not admit it because he needs the money and Rudy holds the key to Trump. 3. Ukraine did know it was paused because they were waiting for it and this is disputed by Hill who said they got a report. 4. The President's state of mind is easy to read and there is NO GENUWINE bone in his body about corruption.
Everything he has said is a flat out LIE. A LIE! TO CONGRESS!! ARREST HIM!
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:34:00 GMT -6
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Post by JukEboX on Dec 9, 2019 9:35:11 GMT -6
Queue reiterate GOP talking points.
I wonder if he charged them extra for that or if he is doing it "out of the kindness of his heart."
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Post by JukEboX on Dec 9, 2019 9:35:56 GMT -6
I believe strongly on the <insert "GOP"> motives of the president.
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Post by Minerva on Dec 9, 2019 9:36:12 GMT -6
Castor really isn’t compelling. He doesn’t have a strong narrative. He’s just kind of talking into his desk.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:37:22 GMT -6
Castor: There's no reason to take this decision out of the hands of the voters
Except Berke just laid out a litany of reasons
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:37:34 GMT -6
well, that lacked pizzazz
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:38:16 GMT -6
Now Ken Buck is here with another objection bc he wants Berke and Castor under oath. But they aren't witnesses.
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 9, 2019 9:38:28 GMT -6
OH SHIT Nadler forgot the oath
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:38:37 GMT -6
DAN IS BACK
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:39:02 GMT -6
OH SHIT Nadler forgot the oath no he didn't. They are representatives for the members, not witnesses.
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 9, 2019 9:39:22 GMT -6
I'm gonna go run and pee.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:40:20 GMT -6
Castor looks like a constipated little boy and Goldman looks like a lawyer who can steal your kidneys while you sleep.
It's not about optics, but let's be honest, it is about optics.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:40:57 GMT -6
Now Biggs is back with his complaint that Berke impugned the president's motivations
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Post by JukEboX on Dec 9, 2019 9:40:58 GMT -6
I love how one of the stall tactics is always "We have recieved <insert large number here> of documents last night. Can we suspend the hearing until we go through it."
True or not?
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 9, 2019 9:41:54 GMT -6
OH SHIT Nadler forgot the oath no he didn't. They are representatives for the members, not witnesses. regardless, it gives them something else minute to bitch about it
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Post by starbuck on Dec 9, 2019 9:42:14 GMT -6
Castor was so bland and generic. He presented nothing meaningful, just platitudes and talking points.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:43:22 GMT -6
If they are so concerned with the decorum of the staff maybe Steve Castor should be censured for laughing at Fiona Hill when she said she'd been threatened
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Post by starbuck on Dec 9, 2019 9:43:57 GMT -6
I love how one of the stall tactics is always "We have recieved <insert large number here> of documents last night. Can we suspend the hearing until we go through it." True or not? This is one of the few points I don't mind. Because much like when a bill is put forward and mustbevotedonrightnow, I think we'd be better served if everyone had time to read and understand. Now, how long a time that is, IDK. But huge dumps of evidence and documents with 24 hours or whatever would be frustrating.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:43:58 GMT -6
Again, Biggs complains about the process and then isnt' paying attention to vote on his own motion
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:44:41 GMT -6
Goldman: "President Trump engaged in a months long campaign to secure foreign assitance in his 2020 election"
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:46:10 GMT -6
Goldman pointing out that the aid was released, but it required Congressional intervention, and that Zelensky still hasn't gotten an Oval office meeting
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 9, 2019 9:47:02 GMT -6
goldman Hey dumbasses, we STILL dont have the docs.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:47:57 GMT -6
Goldman: The allegations against the Bidens are "Patently false"
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 9:49:18 GMT -6
I like that Goldman keeps calling it a "scheme." That's so smart.
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