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Post by jkjacq on Dec 9, 2019 16:11:24 GMT -6
If Hunter Biden is such a horrible criminal why is he not being hauled in front of FBI, CIA, ASPCA?
I would be suing some people for slander and/or libel at some point. Because they are smearing his rep to the point where he might become unemployable unless he goes to work for the current administration.
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(ps I know the aspca is not a prosecuting authority, it was a joke)
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:11:27 GMT -6
Jayapal: You know what isn't circumstantial evidence or a witness without knowledge? POTUS screaming out his crimes in front of a helicopter and a bunch of cameras
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:38:22 GMT -6
Goldman doing a great job destroying any remaining leg the Republicans think they have to stand on
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:39:40 GMT -6
Man the Republicans keep repeating each other over and over. They clearly do not pay attention or coordinate their lines of inquiry at all.
And how many different Republicans are going to bring up that Nadler quote and think it's some amazing "Gotcha" moment?
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Post by oreobitsy on Dec 9, 2019 16:40:46 GMT -6
Why the seat switch for Scanlon and Nadler? Life got in the way today, as much as I'd love to devote my life to listening to Goldman lawyer.
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Post by oreobitsy on Dec 9, 2019 16:41:24 GMT -6
I loved Goldman's point that if Trump was so aware of the need for the military aid, why did he withhold it?
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:42:10 GMT -6
long wow
Castor is painting Lt Col Vindman as a whiny foot stomper bc Trump didn't use his prepared talking points. What a dick.
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 9, 2019 16:42:21 GMT -6
I dont think the president can spell skeptical let alone BE skeptical
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:43:00 GMT -6
Why the seat switch for Scanlon and Nadler? Life got in the way today, as much as I'd love to devote my life to listening to Goldman lawyer. I assume Nadler needed to step out for whatever reason and Scanlon stepped in as chair. She's vice chair so it's logical.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:44:08 GMT -6
I dont think the president can spell skeptical let alone BE skeptical That was such a dumb line of questioning. "Trump couldn't trust the deep state to implement his foreign policy so he had to criminally circumvent US policy"
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:48:21 GMT -6
That was hot.
Goldman arguing that a lot of what Republicans are calling "hearsay" WOULD be admissable in criminal court bc it is co-conspirator statements, and then notes that we are not in criminal court and that the evidentiary standards here are even more permissive than those in criminal court.
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Post by oreobitsy on Dec 9, 2019 16:52:17 GMT -6
That was hot. Goldman arguing that a lot of what Republicans are calling "hearsay" WOULD be admissable in criminal court bc it is co-conspirator statements, and then notes that we are not in criminal court and that the evidentiary standards here are even more permissive than those in criminal court. Yeah, I am right there with you. He is the pizzazz these hearings need.
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Post by oreobitsy on Dec 9, 2019 16:53:02 GMT -6
Ooooh now he pointed out everyone around the world is making disparaging comments about Trump.
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Post by oreobitsy on Dec 9, 2019 16:55:12 GMT -6
If you're curious about Dan Goldman's water bottle choice, it looks like he just took a swig from a giant Fiji bottle.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:56:35 GMT -6
well now Republicans are throwing around the words "New York" as a pejorative so we've really devolved
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:57:36 GMT -6
If you're curious about Dan Goldman's water bottle choice, it looks like he just took a swig from a giant Fiji bottle. He consistently had a bottle or two of Fiji in front of him at the HPSCI hearings too
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 16:58:52 GMT -6
Fuckin Steube just launched into a character assassination of Barry Berke
This is what innocent people do.
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Post by lawandorder on Dec 9, 2019 16:58:54 GMT -6
That was hot. Goldman arguing that a lot of what Republicans are calling "hearsay" WOULD be admissable in criminal court bc it is co-conspirator statements, and then notes that we are not in criminal court and that the evidentiary standards here are even more permissive than those in criminal court. Federal Rules of Evidence pillow talk
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:02:44 GMT -6
Was that Cicilline? I'm listening on my Echo.
"He said 'New York lawyer,' what did he mean by that?"
Can't wait for the next time these fools call Rashida Tlaib antisemitic.
ETA: It was Ted Deutch
Good on him for calling out antisemitic dogwhistles. Steube is an asshole.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:06:37 GMT -6
Lucy McBath giving a spirited defense of civil servants.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:09:32 GMT -6
Stanton and Goldman are now shutting down all the arguments of unfairness.
"If the president wanted to participate in the Intelligence Committee's investigation, he could have provided documents, he could have provided testimony--"
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:10:54 GMT -6
That was hot. Goldman arguing that a lot of what Republicans are calling "hearsay" WOULD be admissable in criminal court bc it is co-conspirator statements, and then notes that we are not in criminal court and that the evidentiary standards here are even more permissive than those in criminal court. Federal Rules of Evidence pillow talk Maybe this will be my new side gig. I'll just volunteer as a sounding board for 3L's polishing their courtroom speeches.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:11:31 GMT -6
If Hunter Biden is such a horrible criminal why is he not being hauled in front of FBI, CIA, ASPCA?
I would be suing some people for slander and/or libel at some point. Because they are smearing his rep to the point where he might become unemployable unless he goes to work for the current administration.
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(ps I know the aspca is not a prosecuting authority, it was a joke)
I enjoyed the ASPCA joke, FTR
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:12:51 GMT -6
I just did a full spit take. That was awesome.
Castor: "Mr Chairman, may I just say something--" Nadler: "NO."
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 9, 2019 17:13:54 GMT -6
did State seize Taylor and Sondlands computers and wipe emails? I still dont understand how they dont have access to their own email.
I say this as someone who currently has 6737 sent emails in the sent folder.
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 9, 2019 17:14:46 GMT -6
If Hunter Biden is such a horrible criminal why is he not being hauled in front of FBI, CIA, ASPCA?
I would be suing some people for slander and/or libel at some point. Because they are smearing his rep to the point where he might become unemployable unless he goes to work for the current administration.
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(ps I know the aspca is not a prosecuting authority, it was a joke)
I enjoyed the ASPCA joke, FTR I'm pretty sure we're minutes away of a story about Hunter kicking kittens.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:16:25 GMT -6
Madeleine Dean and Dan Goldman doing a beautiful job of explaining why they aren't waiting around for the courts, and the ongoing threat that persists.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:16:58 GMT -6
hat tip to the junior members of the Majority who obviously have been adjusting and coordinating their testimony as the day went on. Really well done.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:19:36 GMT -6
did State seize Taylor and Sondlands computers and wipe emails? I still dont understand how they dont have access to their own email. I say this as someone who currently has 6737 sent emails in the sent folder. They probably locked down their .gov emails, pulled everything relevant off of them, then returned their access. There are absolutely legitimate OpSec reasons to do this during certain events and/or investigations. In this instance, I imagine it happened due to WH Counsel telling State to stonewall the inquiry.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 9, 2019 17:22:09 GMT -6
Is this Castor's closing statement? Is this supposed to be compelling?
My 9 year old does a better job defending himself against accusations that he pinched his brother.
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