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Post by Uncaripswife on Nov 19, 2019 18:32:13 GMT -6
Even IF we believe Kurt Volker that Trump was holding up aid bc he generally dislikes Ukraine, that still does not excuse him holding up congressionally appropriated aid. He can't do that. It's an abuse of power. Obligatory fuck Mulvaney for his role in that.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 18:32:40 GMT -6
oh damn. Swalwell brings up the July 25 call and asks why Morrison didnt follow up on the investigations of the Bidens which was, as he stated, the policy objectives that POTUS has the right to set
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Nov 19, 2019 18:33:02 GMT -6
He just schooled Morrison
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 18:33:45 GMT -6
Swalwell: Trump reeeeeally cares about fighting corruption. Is Russia corrupt?
Volker: Yes
Swalwell: And Trump loves Putin. And Erdogan. He looooooooves corrupt leaders.
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Post by jaygee on Nov 19, 2019 18:34:42 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 18:34:54 GMT -6
FFS. Even though Rudy said flat out that he was acting 100% on Trumps' behalf, Volker still says maybe Rudy was sometimes acting not on Trump's behalf. Eyerolllllllll.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Nov 19, 2019 18:36:53 GMT -6
Perfection from Brian Beutler: Yeah the call was perfect as far as I was concerned but also I raced to the lawyers to report it for reasons unrelated to crimes, of which I detected none. Also I resigned from my extremely prestigious job after four months" Sounds legit
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 18:38:20 GMT -6
Volker: I was just trying to get a meeting between Zelensky and Trump! I don't know what else was going on! Not it!!
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 18:39:45 GMT -6
Hurd: POTUS sets US policy
I mean, true, but that's such a gross oversimplification of the controversy here
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 18:41:18 GMT -6
Volker just suggested that Sondland exaggerates and has delusions of grandeur
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 18:45:01 GMT -6
worth noting that most of the GOP side of the dais is empty
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Post by jaygee on Nov 19, 2019 18:45:50 GMT -6
Volker just suggested that Sondland exaggerates and has delusions of grandeur More popcorn eating for me.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 18:46:06 GMT -6
Ratcliffe thinks that crimes are only bad if someone specifically says "I saw criming!"
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Nov 19, 2019 18:54:20 GMT -6
What is Morrison reading? Looks like a mini dictionary
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 18:59:02 GMT -6
Morrison is a lying liar who lies
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 19:01:49 GMT -6
At what point is Morrison gonna be in trouble for conduct unbecoming an officer. When he has to revise his testimony?
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:04:13 GMT -6
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Post by bunnyfungo on Nov 19, 2019 19:05:01 GMT -6
Speaking of, how’s Tedra doing today?
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:06:23 GMT -6
SPM: Wooowwwww your testimony today is really different from your October testimony. And that's bc you learned a lot of new information, including the fact that Trump conflated Burisma with Biden during his discussions with the Ukranians
Volker:correct
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:07:00 GMT -6
SPM: you thought raising "investigations" was already inappropriate, even BEFORE you knew it was linked to Biden? Volker: yep.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:09:25 GMT -6
SPM: Ok but I mean, the Ukranians understood that "investigating corruption" meant "investigating the Bidens and 2016" even if you didn't
Volker: I did not say that
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:10:36 GMT -6
SPM: Mr Morrison, you didn't see anything wrong with the Trump/Zelensky phone call, and yet you went straight to the NSC laywers to talk about it, is that correct?
Morrison: That's correct
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:12:47 GMT -6
Demmings: Why were you so concerned about the content of this call that it had to be locked down to prevent leaks? And prompted you to go straight to NSC Counsel?
Morrison: There was no representative from Counsel on the call
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:14:05 GMT -6
Again, it appears every single Democrat is still in the hearing room and possibly not a single Republican?
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:15:35 GMT -6
Schiff: Are we to believe that the Ukranians didn't know that aid was predicated on investigating the Bidens when it was reported in the newspaper? Volker: Uhhhh yes?
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Post by bunnyfungo on Nov 19, 2019 19:16:45 GMT -6
I mean this not at all in a mom-shamey way, but in an entirely jealous way, but dc2london your DD is like 4, right? How the hell does she let you watch and live blog this??? What’s your secret?? My kids riot about “mom shows” if they are on for more than 30 minutes.
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Nov 19, 2019 19:17:13 GMT -6
Schiff: Are we to believe that the Ukranians didn't know that aid was predicated on investigating the Bidens when it was reported in the newspaper? Volker: Uhhhh yes? I also at no point think they didn’t know aid was withheld. Come on.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:18:17 GMT -6
Krishnamoorthi: Mr Volker, you claim that you were not witness to any quid pro quo, but, in fact, you were not present for many of the events that frame the quid pro qoe Volker: That's correct
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 19:18:46 GMT -6
Krishnamoorthi: Attacking Masha was fucked up Volker: Yeah, it was
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Nov 19, 2019 19:20:29 GMT -6
Volker just agreed that it is not appropriate for trump to attack Vindman on Twitter
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