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Post by jaygee on Nov 19, 2019 16:01:30 GMT -6
Ok. I have to drive home now. I probably need to find a way to stream this in my car It should be on your local NPR.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:02:23 GMT -6
He has refused to testify, right? He is waiting for the court to say what he has to do - obey the subpoena or the WH. I don’t think he wants to testify. Oh I think he is petty enough and wants to testify/spill all the tea, but he wants the illusion hes going to be forced.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:02:58 GMT -6
haha byjove someone just suggested putting an eyepatch on Dan Goldman so he could look like Ken Cosgrove from Mad Men
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:04:17 GMT -6
Castor wants us to believe it's possible the Ukraine aid got held up in the State Department or on the Hill but that is demonstrably false. There are documents disproving that.
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:07:34 GMT -6
The president didn't want to hear about how Ukraine could be different under Zelensky
YIKES
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:08:00 GMT -6
the president is a big old baby
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:12:30 GMT -6
Amb Bolton was "quite annoyed" that Amb Sondland crashed the meet.
Did you brief Amb Bolton? I didnt have to he was there.
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athn64
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Post by athn64 on Nov 19, 2019 16:12:57 GMT -6
I had it on and Morrison's opening statment lulled me to sleep. So I've missed a bit.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:14:04 GMT -6
I had it on and Morrison's opening statment lulled me to sleep. So I've missed a bit. I'm really trying very hard to stay awake at my desk.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:14:57 GMT -6
Morrison: The Ukranians didn't know that the aide was on hold until the Politico article
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Post by starbuck on Nov 19, 2019 16:17:54 GMT -6
Castor looks like he is holding in a fart
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:19:23 GMT -6
Volker: I found out the aid was being withheld on July 18 and I hoped we could resolve it internally before the Ukrainians ever found out. I objected to the hold, speaking with the Pentagon, with NSC, with the White House, etc. This was not going to help us with Russia.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:19:45 GMT -6
Castor looks like he is holding in a fart His eyes are REALLY close together I think that adds to the pained gas face
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:25:04 GMT -6
Volker: Zelensky was very upbeat about the phone call with Trump and did not express concerns about "demands" by Trump
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:25:33 GMT -6
Has it occurred to anyone that Zelensky is a performer?
And can probably easily dissemble his emotions when necessary?
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:25:59 GMT -6
Volker: I was never involved in anything I considered bribery or extortion
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Post by starbuck on Nov 19, 2019 16:28:48 GMT -6
Volker: no credibility to accusations that Biden would try to benefit from his son's role. Perhaps the only angle worth considering is whether certain Ukrainians were attempting to act corruptly and hired Hunter for nefarious purposes. No evidence of this, just possible.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:29:25 GMT -6
That was a pretty long pause there before saying "No" to the question of if anything on the all concerned you, Kurt
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:30:09 GMT -6
You had 3 concerns, do you want to articulate them or do you want me to do it?
Um I had 2 if I had three please remind me.
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 16:30:50 GMT -6
Isnt this what would be called 'leading'
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Post by oreobitsy on Nov 19, 2019 16:31:02 GMT -6
That was a pretty long pause there before saying "No" to the question of if anything on the all concerned you, Kurt I feel like he has had quite a few of those. He doesn't want to contradict himself too much from previous testimony.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:31:09 GMT -6
Morrison was concerned that nobody from NSC legal team was on the call. He also wanted to make sure the MemCon was protected from leaks, bc he was concerned about how the call would play politically and maybe affect the Ukranians' perception of US policy.
Morrison says he did not ask for the MemCon to be moved to the compartmented server. He just wanted access to be restricted.
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Post by athn64 on Nov 19, 2019 16:31:43 GMT -6
I had it on and Morrison's opening statment lulled me to sleep. So I've missed a bit. I'm really trying very hard to stay awake at my desk. May you be more successful in that than I
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:32:43 GMT -6
MOrrison tries to pull up the phone call transcript. He can't. He asks NSC staff why. They say it is on the Super Secret Server. He asks Eisenberg why. Eisenberg doesn't know why, conducts his own inquiry, reports back to Morrison that it was a staff error
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:34:47 GMT -6
Castor asks Morrison about the edits Vindman proposed to the MemCon
Morrison is aware of Vindman's testimony but does not independently recall it; He says he would only have made the edit if he had heard the discrepency or if it was present in his notes
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:35:05 GMT -6
So Morrison and Vindman are directly contradicting one another. yikes.
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Post by athn64 on Nov 19, 2019 16:35:06 GMT -6
MOrrison tries to pull up the phone call transcript. He can't. He asks NSC staff why. They say it is on the Super Secret Server. He asks Eisenberg why. Eisenberg doesn't know why, conducts his own inquiry, reports back to Morrison that it was a staff error Eisenberg needs to answer some questions.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 16:36:30 GMT -6
So no wonder Vindman went to the lawyers. He told Morrison (his direct supervisor) that edits were needed to the MemCon. Morrison said no.
I mean, yeah, I would go to the lawyers too. I can't believe GOP tried to say that was nefarious. He was covering his ass.
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Post by byjove on Nov 19, 2019 16:36:39 GMT -6
haha byjove someone just suggested putting an eyepatch on Dan Goldman so he could look like Ken Cosgrove from Mad Men I’d forgotten about that!
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Post by starbuck on Nov 19, 2019 16:36:44 GMT -6
Back on Vindman's performance and concerns about his judgement.
Jeeeez
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