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Post by wildflower on Oct 26, 2019 18:06:11 GMT -6
Like I’m laughing that kate isn’t considered a social climber when she transferred schools and waited a year to make sure she was at school with Will And about a billion other girls did similar things. Female enrollment at Will's school went through the roof when it was announced he was attending there. |
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Post by claudia on Oct 26, 2019 18:24:23 GMT -6
Like I’m laughing that kate isn’t considered a social climber when she transferred schools and waited a year to make sure she was at school with Will And about a billion other girls did similar things. Female enrollment at Will's school went through the roof when it was announced he was attending there. So that doesn’t disprove that Kate was a social climber, just that she was more successful than the rest.  But I remember reading that at the time. A lot of girls really wanted to go to school with him! |
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Post by wildflower on Oct 26, 2019 20:53:14 GMT -6
And about a billion other girls did similar things. Female enrollment at Will's school went through the roof when it was announced he was attending there. So that doesn’t disprove that Kate was a social climber, just that she was more successful than the rest. But I remember reading that at the time. A lot of girls really wanted to go to school with him! Well, exactly. But " :gasp: she did all sorts of stuff to get him to notice her" makes me laugh... Because he was the catch of the decade and many girls were throwing themselves at him. |
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Post by wildflower on Oct 26, 2019 20:54:32 GMT -6
Sometimes just saying i hear why people may take offense to that criticism goes a long way just saying I have been nodding along with everything you are saying. It's like the words to thoughts I couldn't quite articulate. |
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Post by angelashly on Oct 27, 2019 7:16:16 GMT -6
Sometimes just saying i hear why people may take offense to that criticism goes a long way just saying I have been nodding along with everything you are saying. It's like the words to thoughts I couldn't quite articulate. I mean even the excusing the diva remarks as it being a difference in America and Britain is missing the mark because no. Historically WOC have been said to be divas or aggressive and I just can’t |
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Post by beesquared on Oct 27, 2019 7:51:59 GMT -6
I’m not sure if people are missing the forest for the trees or are being willfully obtuse.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Oct 27, 2019 8:26:54 GMT -6
 We need some tiaras. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on Oct 27, 2019 8:33:57 GMT -6
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Post by claudia on Oct 27, 2019 9:22:45 GMT -6
I have been nodding along with everything you are saying. It's like the words to thoughts I couldn't quite articulate. I mean even the excusing the diva remarks as it being a difference in America and Britain is missing the mark because no. Historically WOC have been said to be divas or aggressive and I just can’t A lot of it reeks of “know your place.” |
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Post by whatsit on Oct 27, 2019 10:26:30 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 11:10:11 GMT -6
My gosh, that whole family sounds so awful. |
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Post by meowmaps on Oct 27, 2019 11:26:20 GMT -6
MM's family (outside of Doria) is so vile. I can't imagine enduring that kind of betrayal from your father. And it doesn't help that her half-sister is a troll. I think there are a number of reasons to have compassion for her and her family is pretty high on that list.
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Post by sally on Oct 27, 2019 11:36:52 GMT -6
I have been nodding along with everything you are saying. It's like the words to thoughts I couldn't quite articulate. I mean even the excusing the diva remarks as it being a difference in America and Britain is missing the mark because no. Historically WOC have been said to be divas or aggressive and I just can’t I’m not sure if you’re talking about my comments, but I was saying it’s another thing she’s dealing with, not excusing the misinterpretation of what she may or may not be saying. She’s dealing with criticism on many levels for things that no matter what she does she can’t win. Not British? A mark against her. American? A mark against her. A WOC? A mark against her. All 3 together? A lot of people saying shitty things about her for shitty reasons. And the first 2 may be just excuses because of the last 1 in many cases, but any non British woman, or American woman was going to be pulled apart for marrying into the royal family, and then the whole other level of racist bullshit that’s added on that is just disgusting. Yes, fundamentally, a lot of things that are said about her are due to racism. And then she had the other things counting against her too, which would have been a big deal for any white woman who married into the BRF. And I’m not excusing any of it. |
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Post by bobyn on Oct 27, 2019 12:18:17 GMT -6
13 November is my birthday. I know what I'm asking DH for! |
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Post by Radley on Oct 27, 2019 21:31:54 GMT -6
Someone doesn’t like something Kate does.
Someone does and “stands up for her”.
Response:
“OMG no one is ever allowed to not like Kate... everyone loves Kate. Can’t we just not like something?”
And:
“OMG I’m just telling you why we feel like she needs to be stood up for!”
Now replace “Kate” with “Meghan”. It’s the same go round every damn time.
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Post by oliversbear on Oct 27, 2019 22:04:02 GMT -6
I honestly can't remember well (more likely wasn't paying attention at the time), but did Dianna and Sarah get this kind of press coverage when they married?
I know that coverage wasn't the same, and there wasn't an internet full of people with a place to publicaly voice their opinions, but I vaguely remember there was some bad press when they joined the family and began as Duchesses. The world was all over the fairy-tale weddings, but after that, I do remember some bad press.
It really is just the same story being played out with new actors. And I'm sorry to say it will more than likely happen with George, Charlotte, & Louis. I hope we as a society will be better people by then, but I seriously doubt it.
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Post by mb3 on Oct 27, 2019 22:27:45 GMT -6
Fergie has spoken about how she felt the press tried to put her and Diana against each other. As for the rest of it, I don’t know.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 0:22:26 GMT -6
Sigh...
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Post by ArielMermaid on Oct 28, 2019 6:20:56 GMT -6
I honestly can't remember well (more likely wasn't paying attention at the time), but did Dianna and Sarah get this kind of press coverage when they married? I know that coverage wasn't the same, and there wasn't an internet full of people with a place to publicaly voice their opinions, but I vaguely remember there was some bad press when they joined the family and began as Duchesses. The world was all over the fairy-tale weddings, but after that, I do remember some bad press. It really is just the same story being played out with new actors. And I'm sorry to say it will more than likely happen with George, Charlotte, & Louis. I hope we as a society will be better people by then, but I seriously doubt it. Yes they tried to make York’s vs Wales a thing. |
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Post by angelashly on Oct 28, 2019 6:22:29 GMT -6
Someone doesn’t like something Kate does. Someone does and “stands up for her”. Response: “OMG no one is ever allowed to not like Kate... everyone loves Kate. Can’t we just not like something?” And: “OMG I’m just telling you why we feel like she needs to be stood up for!” Now replace “Kate” with “Meghan”. It’s the same go round every damn time. Neat |
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Post by ArielMermaid on Oct 28, 2019 6:26:25 GMT -6
Holy crap you guys, today there are about 37 different stories about the Queen out there thanks to her Dresser’s new book. I keep thinking “I should post that” but there are seriously 11 different ones and they’re all just random facts and nothing super juicy.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Oct 28, 2019 6:27:55 GMT -6
I’m not interested in fighting about who likes who. If this is just going to become twitter Imma head out.
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Post by angelashly on Oct 28, 2019 6:29:47 GMT -6
I’m not interested in fighting about who likes who. If this is just going to become twitter Imma head out. No need I’m done |
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Post by Radley on Oct 28, 2019 6:30:57 GMT -6
Someone doesn’t like something Kate does. Someone does and “stands up for her”. Response: “OMG no one is ever allowed to not like Kate... everyone loves Kate. Can’t we just not like something?” And: “OMG I’m just telling you why we feel like she needs to be stood up for!” Now replace “Kate” with “Meghan”. It’s the same go round every damn time. Neat You don’t see the similarities? It’s just like my gosh, people can beat a dead horse. It gets annoying as hell hearing the two sides argue for pages about whether or not you can criticize one or the other. |
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Post by angelashly on Oct 28, 2019 6:31:05 GMT -6
But also i wasn’t arguing who liked who and honestly like them both
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Post by Radley on Oct 28, 2019 6:32:00 GMT -6
I’m not interested in fighting about who likes who. If this is just going to become twitter Imma head out. Exactly. |
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Post by angelashly on Oct 28, 2019 6:32:51 GMT -6
You don’t see the similarities? It’s just like my gosh, people can beat a dead horse. It gets annoying as hell hearing the two sides argue for pages about whether or not you can criticize one or the other. No I don’t and if you want to take the time to read why I feel her criticism is different and actually hear then I encourage it but if not I’m not going to keep going because it’s exhausting |
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Post by angelashly on Oct 28, 2019 6:33:40 GMT -6
It’s not about who likes who but again I’m done
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Post by ArielMermaid on Oct 28, 2019 6:35:10 GMT -6
We gotta rewind back to tiaras and pretty dresses.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Oct 28, 2019 6:36:12 GMT -6
I’m not interested in fighting about who likes who. If this is just going to become twitter Imma head out. We weren't talking about who likes who, we were talking about how racism affects Meghan's coverage. That being distilled to "who likes who" is really frustrating. But yes, whatever. Consider me finished. No You and angelashly weren’t but a couple were “I just don’t like Meghan so that’s all.” And it’s like... K? |
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