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Post by enchanted on Aug 5, 2019 21:13:08 GMT -6
I'm about a third of the way into Preet Bharara's book. I highly recommend.
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Aug 5, 2019 22:52:44 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Aug 5, 2019 22:52:44 GMT -6
MC is a national treasure
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Post by cakewench on Aug 6, 2019 3:37:46 GMT -6
Today’s NYT headline fires home Beto’s point. WTF.
ETA:
They changed it for the second edition:
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Post by byjove on Aug 6, 2019 4:05:39 GMT -6
Well then I was probably as close to an HIH-er as I've ever been. H grew up here and his parents still live here. We came in on Friday to visit. Waves 👋👋 DH went to VT and we spent a night to break up our road trip.
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Post by JukEboX on Aug 6, 2019 5:17:45 GMT -6
So crazy people on CSPAN are saying shootings happen because kids aren't raised right. Crazy people are walking around because there are no asylums anywhere for them to go to. So essentially your all terrible at parenting and crazy people should be locked away from society.
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jkjacq
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Aug 6, 2019 5:29:52 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Aug 6, 2019 5:29:52 GMT -6
So crazy people on CSPAN are saying shootings happen because kids aren't raised right. Crazy people are walking around because there are no asylums anywhere for them to go to. So essentially your all terrible at parenting and crazy people should be locked away from society. I hate that. When I was in the middle of trying to figure out what was going on with my oldest knowing it was more than adhd, it was a legitimate fear that he was going to grow up as a sociopath. Aspergers was not routinely diagnosed and the boy showed almost no empathy. He wasn’t hurting small animals or anything but it was hard with his lack of emotion. Especially since I might have strong loud emotions. Again the stigmatizing of mental conditions is so harmful
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Post by cakewench on Aug 6, 2019 5:31:04 GMT -6
So crazy people on CSPAN are saying shootings happen because kids aren't raised right. Crazy people are walking around because there are no asylums anywhere for them to go to. So essentially your all terrible at parenting and crazy people should be locked away from society. Listening to the callers on CSPAN was “reading the comments on the internet” before there was reading the comments on the internet.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 6, 2019 6:16:13 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Aug 6, 2019 6:30:52 GMT -6
There's some really precious bad faith finger wagging going on bc apparently the Dayton gunman was super lefty on Twitter. First of all, no, bc we have no reason to believe his actions were politically motivated (although that certainly could change). But also no, bc the left doesn't embrace and celebrate the extreme. And don't even @ me about AOC--she isn't extreme. And finally no, bc the left are the ones working to STOP gun violence. So any attempt to pin that guy on Democrats is bad faith idiotic deflection.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 6, 2019 6:35:18 GMT -6
ALSO AND PLUS ALSO, show me a single elected Democrat who stokes divisiveness and violence and hatred. And no, calling out other people's divisiveness is not that.
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Post by cakewench on Aug 6, 2019 6:41:54 GMT -6
Also simply because one shooter was a extreme leftist on twitter doesn't cancel out an extreme rightist shooter, because THAT'S NOT HOW THIS SHIT WORKS.
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Post by jkjacq on Aug 6, 2019 6:49:55 GMT -6
Also simply because one shooter was a extreme leftist on twitter doesn't cancel out an extreme rightist shooter, because THAT'S NOT HOW THIS SHIT WORKS. Exactly
ITS THE GUNS!
the accessibility to weapons.
I'm tired of trying to get to the 'reason' of the shooting. At the end of the day it doesn't matter. If access to guns is restricted and controlled then guess what happens. You have less shootings. That goes for mass shootings AS WELL AS every day shootings where a person should not have had a weapon.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 6, 2019 6:51:30 GMT -6
Nebraska Republican condemns party's failure to condemn Trump racism, is asked to leave the party
The Republican Party is enabling white supremacy in our country. As a lifelong Republican, it pains me to say this, but it’s the truth.
I of course am not suggesting that all Republicans are white supremacists nor am I saying that the average Republican is even racist.
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Post by stepho on Aug 6, 2019 7:26:19 GMT -6
Amazing shade from Mayor of Dayton
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Post by cakewench on Aug 6, 2019 7:48:58 GMT -6
Toni Morrison has died:
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August 5
Aug 6, 2019 7:50:03 GMT -6
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Post by lemondrop on Aug 6, 2019 7:50:03 GMT -6
Yep this was a thing. This weekend was apparently an annual KY political event that involves a "roast" of politicians from both sides of the aisle. McConnell supporters wore Kavanaugh masks and pretended to strangle AOC throughout the event. It's called Fancy Farm and it's really quite something, I gather. This makes me want to vomit. His campaign manager said the following: "Team Mitch in no way condones any aggressive, suggestive, or demeaning act toward life sized cardboard cut outs of any gender in a manner similar to what we saw from President Obama’s speechwriting staff several years ago,” WHY IS “I’M SORRY, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED” SO FUCKING HARD FOR REPUBLICANS????????
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Aug 6, 2019 7:57:06 GMT -6
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Post by sarahandben108 on Aug 6, 2019 7:57:06 GMT -6
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Post by Uncaripswife on Aug 6, 2019 7:59:12 GMT -6
So crazy people on CSPAN are saying shootings happen because kids aren't raised right. Crazy people are walking around because there are no asylums anywhere for them to go to. So essentially your all terrible at parenting and crazy people should be locked away from society. I hate that bullshit "if only these kids had been spanked by their parents" line.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Aug 6, 2019 8:00:19 GMT -6
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Aug 6, 2019 8:02:26 GMT -6
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Aug 6, 2019 8:02:26 GMT -6
So crazy people on CSPAN are saying shootings happen because kids aren't raised right. Crazy people are walking around because there are no asylums anywhere for them to go to. So essentially your all terrible at parenting and crazy people should be locked away from society. This pissed me off yesterday. I replied to a meme that my Gma posted about how it’s not guns it’s parents that need to be better at raising good humans. I quickly pointed out that most of these white nationalist shooters are 20-60, so that is their generation and their children’s children. Don’t ducking solely blame today’s parents. (Not in those exact words to my grandma). There is a problem with hatred in this country. It could be learned partly from parents in some instances (see upthread, did a bunch of teenage boys really just vilify AOC without hearing it somewhere before?), but this is a problem that has been growing for generations. Don’t dare blame this on the parents on their phones today. My toddler is the one I’m terrified will get shot at school, not spewing hatred.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Aug 6, 2019 8:04:08 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Aug 6, 2019 8:05:01 GMT -6
This makes me want to vomit. His campaign manager said the following: "Team Mitch in no way condones any aggressive, suggestive, or demeaning act toward life sized cardboard cut outs of any gender in a manner similar to what we saw from President Obama’s speechwriting staff several years ago,” WHY IS “I’M SORRY, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED” SO FUCKING HARD FOR REPUBLICANS???????? long wow
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Post by dc2london on Aug 6, 2019 8:06:00 GMT -6
I saw that on twitter and I'd really like to know how to become a drag queen advocate because that sounds AMAZING
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Aug 6, 2019 8:09:34 GMT -6
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Post by bunnyfungo on Aug 6, 2019 8:09:34 GMT -6
Nebraska Republican condemns party's failure to condemn Trump racism, is asked to leave the party The Republican Party is enabling white supremacy in our country. As a lifelong Republican, it pains me to say this, but it’s the truth. I of course am not suggesting that all Republicans are white supremacists nor am I saying that the average Republican is even racist. This is interesting to me because the Nebraska Unicameral is nonpartisan. In that, they don’t list party affiliation on the ballot. You’re supposed to just vote on the issues. I mean, of course you can just do a google search and most people do have party affiliation. But come election time, it doesn’t matter if they kicked him out of the party 🤷♀️
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Aug 6, 2019 8:09:49 GMT -6
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Post by lemondrop on Aug 6, 2019 8:09:49 GMT -6
So crazy people on CSPAN are saying shootings happen because kids aren't raised right. Crazy people are walking around because there are no asylums anywhere for them to go to. So essentially your all terrible at parenting and crazy people should be locked away from society. This pissed me off yesterday. I replied to a meme that my Gma posted about how it’s not guns it’s parents that need to be better at raising good humans. I quickly pointed out that most of these white nationalist shooters are 20-60, so that is their generation and their children’s children. Don’t ducking solely blame today’s parents. (Not in those exact words to my grandma). There is a problem with hatred in this country. It could be learned partly from parents in some instances (see upthread, did a bunch of teenage boys really just vilify AOC without hearing it somewhere before?), but this is a problem that has been growing for generations. Don’t dare blame this on the parents on their phones today. My toddler is the one I’m terrified will get shot at school, not spewing hatred. My super Catholic aunt likes to do the “it’s because prayer isn’t allowed anywhere anymore!” BS. To which I responded, “but there have been shootings at synagogues, Episcopalian churches and mosques where arguably people are... ya know... praying... so...”
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Post by piratecat on Aug 6, 2019 8:21:30 GMT -6
So virtual guns in video games are responsible for killing people rather than actual physical guns? Makes sense.
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Post by fatpony on Aug 6, 2019 8:25:38 GMT -6
I saw that on twitter and I'd really like to know how to become a drag queen advocate because that sounds AMAZING I'm pretty sure you have to support drag queens *gasp* reading to children at libraries.
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Post by summerbabe on Aug 6, 2019 8:25:56 GMT -6
I'm pretty into AOC these days. gothamist.com/2019/08/06/gun_violence_vigil_nyc.php "She also dedicated a portion of her speech to directly addressing people who “are falling into the grips of white supremacy that find themselves getting radicalized in a funnel of vitriol.” “We will always be here and hold space for you to come back,” she said. “We will love you back. You are not too far gone.”
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Post by stringy on Aug 6, 2019 8:28:33 GMT -6
I saw it but couldn't even give her the benefit of our time to read about her.
I'm sure 45 is a wonderful father
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Post by jkjacq on Aug 6, 2019 8:29:29 GMT -6
I need a brief subject change:
Boise High School is planning to change their mascot, the braves. There has been talk for a couple of years about it but nothing was done. The Shoshone Bannock tribe has formally requested that all Idaho high schools stop using terms such as "Braves, Warriors, etc". The tribal leadership has requested this.
The amount of white people screaming their heads off at how this is SO WRONG and we're honoring them, and liberal snowflakes always offended at everything, and I"LL ALWAYS BE A BRAVE! is astounding.
First if your whole life is revolving around your former high school mascot, you need to move. If you didnt even GO to the school just stop. Just because its not offensive TO YOU, doesn't make it not offensive. Just because it was that is the way it always was doesn't mean that is the way it has to be.
Which sort of ties into the prayer in school bullshit. There was (still is) a LOT of bad shit in schools/everywhere. It was just hidden or covered up (see the catholic church). People didn't talk about abuse, girls who were pregnant were 'sent away' and labeled sluts, generations of people grew up repressed because its not what a 'good' christian would do. Praying didnt make that go away.
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