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Jun 27, 2019 8:46:24 GMT -6
Post by dc2london on Jun 27, 2019 8:46:24 GMT -6
The citizenship question was defeated. oh thank god
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elle
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Jun 27, 2019 8:50:53 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Jun 27, 2019 8:50:53 GMT -6
Pete Williams spoke too soon. The citizenship question is blocked...for now. Unless the Trump administration can come up with a better reason as to why it should be included.
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Post by justkeepmoving on Jun 27, 2019 9:21:47 GMT -6
Damn this is a depressing day. So we’re stuck with gerrymandering forever? I mean... there’s no way to vote this or them out because of gerrymandering.
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Jun 27, 2019 9:24:55 GMT -6
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Post by lemondrop on Jun 27, 2019 9:24:55 GMT -6
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Jun 27, 2019 9:25:22 GMT -6
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Post by sterling on Jun 27, 2019 9:25:22 GMT -6
Damn this is a depressing day. So we’re stuck with gerrymandering forever? I mean... there’s no way to vote this or them out because of gerrymandering. It’s very depressing. The only hope would be a law that explicitly prohibits it? I think that’s what political issues that must be resolved elsewhere means. But who knows.
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Jun 27, 2019 9:26:31 GMT -6
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Post by lemondrop on Jun 27, 2019 9:26:31 GMT -6
Or what elle said I should read before posting 🤐
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Post by sterling on Jun 27, 2019 9:27:21 GMT -6
“Aware of electoral districting prob- lems, the Framers chose a characteristic approach, assigning the is- sue to the state legislatures, expressly checked and balanced by the Federal Congress, with no suggestion that the federal courts had a role to play.“
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Jun 27, 2019 9:29:10 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Jun 27, 2019 9:29:10 GMT -6
Damn this is a depressing day. So we’re stuck with gerrymandering forever? I mean... there’s no way to vote this or them out because of gerrymandering. It’s very depressing. The only hope would be a law that explicitly prohibits it? I think that’s what political issues that must be resolved elsewhere means. But who knows. I think the SCOTUS ruling is basically saying that either Congress (ha) or State governments can address gerrymandering issues, but we all know how well that's going to work with this Senate and in gerrymandered to high heaven red states. So.
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Jun 27, 2019 9:32:08 GMT -6
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Post by sterling on Jun 27, 2019 9:32:08 GMT -6
Kagan’s dissent is amazing. 😭😭😭
“These ger- rymanders enabled politicians to entrench themselves in office as against voters’ preferences. They promoted partisanship above respect for the popular will. They encour- aged a politics of polarization and dysfunction. If left unchecked, gerrymanders like the ones here may irrepa- rably damage our system of government.”
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June 24
Jun 27, 2019 9:46:50 GMT -6
Post by enchanted on Jun 27, 2019 9:46:50 GMT -6
Yeah, it shows they have no functioning PR team or strategy. “Everyone likes the Red Cross, right? Donate there and get people off our backs” -white male CEO over 50 (no actual idea who their CEO is but just guessing 🤷🏻♀️) CEO is Niraj Shah. Born in 1975, and I believe first generation US citizen. Parents immigrated to the US. That makes it worse. "I've got mine; screw everyone else."
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Jun 27, 2019 9:51:52 GMT -6
Post by enchanted on Jun 27, 2019 9:51:52 GMT -6
So this is happening....TW child loss, gun violence I'm just...I don't even know what to say. She wasn't the one that fired the gun! How tf are they charging her? I just can't. I feel sick. Did you read their argument? The only victim is the baby because Jones should have known better than to start an argument while her baby needed her mother to protect her. Basically, if you're pregnant in Alabama, you need to just sit quietly in the dark and not talk to anyone because your only purpose in life is to give birth. Like, what in the actual fuck? Sure, getting into an argument isn't always a wise decision, pregnant or not, but apparently this poor women should have been able to see into the future and known that the other woman was unstable enough to shoot her in her pregnant stomach because she dared to fight with her. Regulate the uterus, not the gun.
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Jun 27, 2019 10:18:22 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Jun 27, 2019 10:18:22 GMT -6
I'm just...I don't even know what to say. She wasn't the one that fired the gun! How tf are they charging her? I just can't. I feel sick. Did you read their argument? The only victim is the baby because Jones should have known better than to start an argument while her baby needed her mother to protect her. Basically, if you're pregnant in Alabama, you need to just sit quietly in the dark and not talk to anyone because your only purpose in life is to give birth. Like, what in the actual fuck? Sure, getting into an argument isn't always a wise decision, pregnant or not, but apparently this poor women should have been able to see into the future and known that the other woman was unstable enough to shoot her in her pregnant stomach because she dared to fight with her. Regulate the uterus, not the gun. I did, my question still stands, it was mostly rhetorical. These are dark days and I fear worse is yet to come.
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Jun 27, 2019 10:21:07 GMT -6
Post by enchanted on Jun 27, 2019 10:21:07 GMT -6
Did you read their argument? The only victim is the baby because Jones should have known better than to start an argument while her baby needed her mother to protect her. Basically, if you're pregnant in Alabama, you need to just sit quietly in the dark and not talk to anyone because your only purpose in life is to give birth. Like, what in the actual fuck? Sure, getting into an argument isn't always a wise decision, pregnant or not, but apparently this poor women should have been able to see into the future and known that the other woman was unstable enough to shoot her in her pregnant stomach because she dared to fight with her. Regulate the uterus, not the gun. I did, my question still stands, it was mostly rhetorical. These are dark days and I fear worse is yet to come. Sorry, I should know better that the women here know their shit. I have been raging about this since yesterday and no one around me seems to think it's that bad. And yes, worse is yet to come unless we can somehow beat the gerrymandering and the interference and get rid of all these anti-women politicians.
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elle
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Jun 27, 2019 10:26:43 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Jun 27, 2019 10:26:43 GMT -6
I did, my question still stands, it was mostly rhetorical. These are dark days and I fear worse is yet to come. Sorry, I should know better that the women here know their shit. I have been raging about this since yesterday and no one around me seems to think it's that bad. And yes, worse is yet to come unless we can somehow beat the gerrymandering and the interference and get rid of all these anti-women politicians. I should have been more clear that my questions/comments were more despairing than asking for real answers. I know the answers, they're just completely and utterly fucked up. As an aside, all of this is ratcheting up my anxiety during this pregnancy. I won't lie, I'm having a really hard time between the immigrant concentration camps and the curtailing of women's rights. How am I going to explain what we've turned into as a country to my two daughters one day?
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Jun 27, 2019 10:29:43 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Jun 27, 2019 10:29:43 GMT -6
NPR is reporting that the admin is seeking to terminate the Bush era program to not deport family members of active duty military in one month.
So, let get this straight:
Government recruits immigrant or first generation citizen for service, deploys him/her, deports relatives while service member is deployed and expects full and complete loyalty and focus on the job at hand.
Wow.
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Jun 27, 2019 10:32:25 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Jun 27, 2019 10:32:25 GMT -6
If you figure it out, elle, please let me know. My kids both say 45 is a bad President who makes bad choices, but I don't know how to explain to them exactly what bad choices. I feel like they're too young and I need to protect them. Then I realize what privilege I have in being able to punk out and not explain it because we're a white upper middle class family. And hugs! I'm sorry you are having to deal with this level of anxiety on top of pregnancy.
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Jun 27, 2019 10:32:29 GMT -6
Post by JukEboX on Jun 27, 2019 10:32:29 GMT -6
So the conservative wheels are already corrupted the Judiciary. 5-4 ruling by all the conservative judges that the gerrymandered maps are not a case for the courts and are overseen by the congress.... You know the place that GOP has control of and gerrymandered like crazy to make it that way.
Yeah you can challenge them but only to the people who used them to get there they are who make the decision if they are valid or not.
Hating life today.
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Jun 27, 2019 10:35:23 GMT -6
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Jun 27, 2019 10:35:23 GMT -6
So this is happening....TW child loss, gun violence What the actual fuck?!
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Jun 27, 2019 10:36:27 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Jun 27, 2019 10:36:27 GMT -6
NPR is reporting that the admin is seeking to terminate the Bush era program to not deport family members of active duty military in one month. So, let get this straight: Government recruits immigrant or first generation citizen for service, deploys him/her, deports relatives while service member is deployed and expects full and complete loyalty and focus on the job at hand. Wow. But...but...but Support the Troops! 'Murica!
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Post by athn64 on Jun 27, 2019 11:10:58 GMT -6
Did you read their argument? The only victim is the baby because Jones should have known better than to start an argument while her baby needed her mother to protect her. Basically, if you're pregnant in Alabama, you need to just sit quietly in the dark and not talk to anyone because your only purpose in life is to give birth. Like, what in the actual fuck? Sure, getting into an argument isn't always a wise decision, pregnant or not, but apparently this poor women should have been able to see into the future and known that the other woman was unstable enough to shoot her in her pregnant stomach because she dared to fight with her. Regulate the uterus, not the gun. I did, my question still stands, it was mostly rhetorical. These are dark days and I fear worse is yet to come. DH is more optimistic and says it won't stick, but they already indicted her so I have no faith in people anymore.
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Jun 27, 2019 11:15:12 GMT -6
Post by jkjacq on Jun 27, 2019 11:15:12 GMT -6
OOOH OH OH they released Tillerson transcripts. This should be good.
also last night Kush was on Wolf talking about the ME plan. Basically hes going to release the economic plan first then the peace plan. However when directly asked if it included a two state solution, he wouldn't answer. So apparently this admin is all for Israel taking over Palestine. (the last is NOT what he said but it sounded implied)
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Jun 27, 2019 11:37:43 GMT -6
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Post by sctiger on Jun 27, 2019 11:37:43 GMT -6
So if a pregnant woman gets into a car accident and something happens to the fetus is it her fault? By Republican logic, she should know better than to take a risk driving when she has a baby to protect. Where do you draw the line at this fuckery?
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Jun 27, 2019 11:47:38 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Jun 27, 2019 11:47:38 GMT -6
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jun 27, 2019 11:51:33 GMT -6
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Jun 27, 2019 11:59:17 GMT -6
Post by jkjacq on Jun 27, 2019 11:59:17 GMT -6
JFC
We are seriously going to have to drag him out of the white house.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Jun 27, 2019 12:11:09 GMT -6
JFC
We are seriously going to have to drag him out of the white house.
It would be really enjoyable to watch him be dragged out of the White House kicking and screaming while the new Dem president looks on. I realize that it wouldn't be good for the country to have to forcibly remove him, but petty me is enjoying imagining it.
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Post by sctiger on Jun 27, 2019 12:13:41 GMT -6
We were listening to NPR this morning and my six year old asked why kids were being separated from their parents. I gave her the basics and feel good about what I told her but I hated that it even had to come up. She's surprisingly astute for a six year old and seems to have a pretty decent understanding and curiosity for political things. I took her to a few events for the governor's race in 2018 and she still talks about it. Maybe she will be part of helping to save our country one day.
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Post by blurnette989 on Jun 27, 2019 12:30:31 GMT -6
So if a pregnant woman gets into a car accident and something happens to the fetus is it her fault? By Republican logic, she should know better than to take a risk driving when she has a baby to protect. Where do you draw the line at this fuckery? I'm going to guess the line is, brown or white?
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Post by athn64 on Jun 27, 2019 14:19:35 GMT -6
Wtf. I usually take his surveys vut no way in hell. This is some shit
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Jun 27, 2019 14:22:55 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Jun 27, 2019 14:22:55 GMT -6
Wtf. I usually take his surveys vut no way in hell. This is some shit Same. I take them and unload, usually. It's cathartic. This one, though, is full on batshit crazy.
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