junch817
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Post by junch817 on Sept 14, 2017 20:10:49 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see how he handles jury questioning after lying in the goodbye messages with josh or Christmas right there able to call him out. Yes. It's going to be so intense seeing them try to throw the other one under the bus. Well Paul will easily do it. Im excited to see how Josh or Christmas react and what they say. Awkward.
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Post by icedcoffee on Sept 15, 2017 5:39:26 GMT -6
I dont really understand the reasoning behind wanting to bring Josh to F2 instead of Christmas. Josh deserves it more, yes. And even though he was an ass to a lot of the people in the jury, I think he still would get some votes because he actually won comps and played unlike Christmas. If enough people get pissed at Paul I could see votes going to Josh. But Christmas just kinda floated along and didn't really do anything. Most people would hate for a floater to win more than someone like Josh. Am I missing something?
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Post by junch817 on Sept 15, 2017 6:05:48 GMT -6
I dont really understand the reasoning behind wanting to bring Josh to F2 instead of Christmas. Josh deserves it more, yes. And even though he was an ass to a lot of the people in the jury, I think he still would get some votes because he actually won comps and played unlike Christmas. If enough people get pissed at Paul I could see votes going to Josh. But Christmas just kinda floated along and didn't really do anything. Most people would hate for a floater to win more than someone like Josh. Am I missing something? I'm still wondering why he didn't think Kevin was his best part. Kevin wouldn't win the final HOH comp, but even if he did, he would 100% take Paul. There is a risk factor with Josh and I feel like even Paul has to know that (we obviously know more, but still - Christmas has filled Paul in on Josh's questioning to her about Paul). Kevin didn't do anything. Paul has to believe he has a better chance to win over Kevin than Josh. I feel like it would be the same thing as last year. Paul had a chance to win over Nicole because he thought people hated her, but he had a way better chance over James. He made the wrong pick. If Paul thinks he is playing such a good game and continuing to try and keep "blood off his hands" like he never stops saying, why wouldn't he take the one person that literally won nothing the entire time? If there is no blood Paul and you have nothing to worry about, shouldn't you take Kevin?
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pepper
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Post by pepper on Sept 15, 2017 6:26:14 GMT -6
I think the coaxing of Josh to be the aggressive jerk is what has made him choose Josh. I think he thinks since Josh was so loud and in their faces that the jury will hate him the most.
It was his plan to have Josh be the face of the meanness and the one with the "blood on his hands", he thinks he achieved it.
I think that's not an unreasonable thing for him to believe, with the information he has.
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Post by dragonflyinn on Sept 15, 2017 6:36:20 GMT -6
I think the coaxing of Josh to be the aggressive jerk is what has made him choose Josh. I think he thinks since Josh was so loud and in their faces that the jury will hate him the most. It was his plan to have Josh be the face of the meanness and the one with the "blood on his hands", he thinks he achieved it. I think that's not an unreasonable thing for him to believe, with the information he has. Seems like everyone in jury knows it was really paul though. I'd love if he came this far again just to choose wrong and lose. #petty
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Post by pepper on Sept 15, 2017 6:39:58 GMT -6
I think the coaxing of Josh to be the aggressive jerk is what has made him choose Josh. I think he thinks since Josh was so loud and in their faces that the jury will hate him the most. It was his plan to have Josh be the face of the meanness and the one with the "blood on his hands", he thinks he achieved it. I think that's not an unreasonable thing for him to believe, with the information he has. Seems like everyone in jury knows it was really paul though. I'd love if he came this far again just to choose wrong and lose. #petty No, I know that and you know that but Paul still thinks he's flawless.
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Post by mishka29 on Sept 15, 2017 7:40:05 GMT -6
If the final 2 are Paul and Josh....who do you think Cody votes for?
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Post by michyme on Sept 15, 2017 7:51:30 GMT -6
If the final 2 are Paul and Josh....who do you think Cody votes for? in my opinion, paul.
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Post by swim on Sept 15, 2017 8:13:27 GMT -6
I think Cody would vote for Paul. He hated Paul, but he hated Josh way more. Plus I think he knows Paul really played the game, and didn't follow anyone else's orders.
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Post by leatherpants on Sept 15, 2017 8:41:56 GMT -6
I think Cody would vote for Paul. He hated Paul, but he hated Josh way more. Plus I think he knows Paul really played the game, and didn't follow anyone else's orders. Yes. Plus a Paul got him out. It hurts to lose less when you lose to the champion
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Post by leatherpants on Sept 15, 2017 8:56:15 GMT -6
I think the coaxing of Josh to be the aggressive jerk is what has made him choose Josh. I think he thinks since Josh was so loud and in their faces that the jury will hate him the most. It was his plan to have Josh be the face of the meanness and the one with the "blood on his hands", he thinks he achieved it. I think that's not an unreasonable thing for him to believe, with the information he has. Agreed. And I think Josh's best move to date has been being honest in the goodbye messages. Paul needs to take Christmas to the finals. Broken footed, shouldn't be even be there Christmas.
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Post by junch817 on Sept 15, 2017 20:09:33 GMT -6
Why are Paul and Josh yelling so loud through this scripted crap? So annoying.
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Post by junch817 on Sept 15, 2017 20:20:05 GMT -6
If you aren't sure about watching tonight, and find yourself starting to root for Josh, watch tonight and be reminded why you hate Josh.
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Post by KMW08 on Sept 16, 2017 16:28:48 GMT -6
I was really almost hoping Christmas would've went rogue and sent Josh to jury. Kevin has proved not to be a threat in competitions, so she would've had a better chance against him than Josh as winning final HOH.
I do understand risking keeping Kevin. If by some crazy luck he would have won final HOH, he probably would've taken Paul with him to final 2, over Christmas or Josh.
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Post by filingjointly on Sept 16, 2017 23:23:05 GMT -6
It seems Josh won the second comp!
MH thinks, no matter the third comp, that someone is "going to go all December 26th and send Christmas Joy packing." I think there's still a chance Josh takes her.
I also think there's a chance I married a ding dong.
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Post by mathlete on Sept 17, 2017 6:10:40 GMT -6
It seems Josh won the second comp! MH thinks, no matter the third comp, that someone is "going to go all December 26th and send Christmas Joy packing." I think there's still a chance Josh takes her. I also think there's a chance I married a ding dong. Josh said in his DR he wanted to take out Paul. I think he might bring Christmas to the final.
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Post by mathlete on Sept 17, 2017 6:14:55 GMT -6
Hmm. Josh could also just be telling Paul what he wants to hear.. ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/fa412b65227153d904925c0590b4191f.jpg)
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Post by crunch on Sept 17, 2017 6:15:19 GMT -6
I'd love love love to see josh win the final and take Christmas. I think Paul deserves to win but what a great shock and twist that'd be
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Post by mathlete on Sept 17, 2017 6:36:51 GMT -6
Based off piecing together their conversation. The Christmas/Josh comp was something about throwing balls? Took then forever? Josh said he beat Christmas by 5 minutes. Was telling Paul it was harder than it looked.
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Post by ilovelamp on Sept 17, 2017 14:29:00 GMT -6
Does Josh really think he can beat Paul over Christmas? These people are delusional. I just want to take a hold of them and shake them until they snap out of it.
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Post by imapenguin on Sept 17, 2017 14:36:32 GMT -6
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Post by swim on Sept 17, 2017 14:57:02 GMT -6
Josh knows Paul is behind getting everyone evicted. He may not have directly evicted them but it was his plans that everyone followed. So yeah, I would think I could win if it was a bitter jury. It's a risk. If the jury ends up not being bitter then he loses.
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Post by grapefruits on Sept 17, 2017 15:25:46 GMT -6
Josh knows Paul is behind getting everyone evicted. He may not have directly evicted them but it was his plans that everyone followed. So yeah, I would think I could win if it was a bitter jury. It's a risk. If the jury ends up not being bitter then he loses. So wouldn't it be best for him to take Christmas either way? If it's not a bitter jury, then he won't win against Paul. If it is a bitter jury, then he'll be the one who took Paul out, which could get him some votes over Christmas.
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Post by swim on Sept 17, 2017 17:33:17 GMT -6
Josh knows Paul is behind getting everyone evicted. He may not have directly evicted them but it was his plans that everyone followed. So yeah, I would think I could win if it was a bitter jury. It's a risk. If the jury ends up not being bitter then he loses. So wouldn't it be best for him to take Christmas either way? If it's not a bitter jury, then he won't win against Paul. If it is a bitter jury, then he'll be the one who took Paul out, which could get him some votes over Christmas. I'm conflicted. With Christmas and Josh as a F2. Wouldn't know who should win in that case. I feel like she was more likeable than Josh. But then her foot was broken and she couldn't compete in a lot of comps. Plus had her HOHs thrown to her. But then Josh made enemies with those damn pots and pans, plus flying off the handle.
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Post by crunch on Sept 17, 2017 17:42:51 GMT -6
If it comes down to Christmas and josh I hope josh wins because he was the only one to see Paul. He didn't make a move but at least he saw it.
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Post by clucky on Sept 17, 2017 20:19:11 GMT -6
So wouldn't it be best for him to take Christmas either way? If it's not a bitter jury, then he won't win against Paul. If it is a bitter jury, then he'll be the one who took Paul out, which could get him some votes over Christmas. I'm conflicted. With Christmas and Josh as a F2. Wouldn't know who should win in that case. I feel like she was more likeable than Josh. But then her foot was broken and she couldn't compete in a lot of comps. Plus had her HOHs thrown to her. But then Josh made enemies with those damn pots and pans, plus flying off the handle. I feel like Josh has been setting Paul up (rightfully) in every goodbye video for weeks though. Paul says one thing, Josh contradicts him with the actual truth. When they watch the video in jury, they realized Paul was playing them. It will all come down to how they let go of that resentment.
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Post by michyme on Sept 18, 2017 9:16:52 GMT -6
Christmas plans to tell josh and Paul to take each other for F2 so she can take 3rd.
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Post by imapenguin on Sept 18, 2017 9:55:18 GMT -6
Christmas plans to tell josh and Paul to take each other for F2 so she can take 3rd. So I guess they haven't told her yet that's the plan anyway?
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Post by mathlete on Sept 18, 2017 11:37:14 GMT -6
Christmas plans to tell josh and Paul to take each other for F2 so she can take 3rd. So I guess they haven't told her yet that's the plan anyway? Is that really Josh's plan though or is that just what he's telling Paul is his plan?
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Post by grapefruits on Sept 18, 2017 12:28:17 GMT -6
Christmas plans to tell josh and Paul to take each other for F2 so she can take 3rd. What? Why? Why is she even there?
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