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Post by Taitai on Apr 25, 2019 18:47:35 GMT -6
I mean buttermilk is more or less expired milk so 🤷♀️ hahaha I had no idea. I have honestly never used buttermilk. But buttermilk pie is my all time #1 favorite. I have never heard of, nor tried buttermilk pie. I just googled and it looks good though 😋
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Post by Taitai on Apr 25, 2019 23:25:58 GMT -6
My house is calm and at peace. Zen.
Our houseguests must have grown a conscience, and they informed us this morning that they are heading to a beach resort for the next 5 days. They left 2 hours ago. Their kid STILL has diarrhea and is coughing a ton, and they haven’t taken him to the doctor. 😩
They will be back here after their beach trip, but will be leaving for the USA around 6 May. Once they get to the USA, they will move in with my friend’s parents temporarily, and they are surprising her parents....not going to give them advance warning that they are coming!! 😱😱. Whatever - not my problem at that point.
I had gotten somewhat desensitized to the constant screaming and crying of their kid and the regular destruction. But now that they’re gone, I realized how chill our normal life is. Really thankful for that.
Casualties: -3 books torn apart -numerous broken toys -one dining room chair that we will have to reupholster -a permanent white stain in the middle of our wooden dining room table from my friend putting a hot pan directly from the oven on to our table without anything underneath it. We have to get the dining room table top refinished.
They haven’t offered to pay for anything, so I am going to see what the furniture repair costs are and then determine whether it’s worth it to ask them to chip in. Labor is so cheap here...it might only cost like $60-$90 to fix the chair and table.
If they ever come back to Southeast Asia, I’m going to tell them our guest room is getting renovated so they will need to stay at a hotel. 🤣😭
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Post by curmudgeon on Apr 26, 2019 7:33:57 GMT -6
Taitai hooray for a break! Geez so many incidences in a short amount of time! I’d be mortified if I messed up a friends table or my kid ruined a chair. I can’t even imagine. I hope their kid doesn’t have anything serious. That sounds like a loooong time to have diarrhea. 😬
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Post by Taitai on Apr 26, 2019 8:22:48 GMT -6
Taitai hooray for a break! Geez so many incidences in a short amount of time! I’d be mortified if I messed up a friends table or my kid ruined a chair. I can’t even imagine. I hope their kid doesn’t have anything serious. That sounds like a loooong time to have diarrhea. 😬 Right? My kids don’t get diarrhea for 4 days straight. Esp watery diarrhea. DS2 came down with a fever and cough about 3 hours after they left 😩. I am blaming them. Whyyyyy did they bring their feverish, sick kid to my house to infect my children? Whyyyyy???
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Post by CoachTsWife on Apr 26, 2019 8:24:25 GMT -6
That is something Taitai. I would be mortified if my family caused so much damage to a friend's belongings. I would've replaced the books and toys and offered to pay for repairs of the other things. Good grief. You guys are really good friends and I'm glad your home is back to zen for a bit.
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Post by Taitai on Apr 26, 2019 8:35:34 GMT -6
That is something Taitai. I would be mortified if my family caused so much damage to a friend's belongings. I would've replaced the books and toys and offered to pay for repairs of the other things. Good grief. You guys are really good friends and I'm glad your home is back to zen for a bit. It’s so strange that they are such horrible, selfish house guests. Like - they really took advantage of our hospitality on multiple occasions this past year. I never would have thought she would do this to me, and I think if they hadn’t had a kid with them, it would have been a really different experience. Before when we were friends (no kids), she was always the first to help clean up if we had a big dinner at my home. She brought us a nice house warming gift when we moved into our new condo in the states. She came and visited when I had DS1 (she didn’t have kids yet), and she brought really thoughtful gifts & was such an easy house guest. But then she had this kid, adopted this “no rules” mentality, and she seems very overwhelmed and just generally clueless about how to parent him. I don’t mean to be harsh, but he’s very destructive and just...out of control. Her husband also hardly helps at all with the kid, and will just walk off to work out or disappear, while she never gets a break. I get the sense she is just trying to tread water. It’s like - a 180 degree change from the person I knew. And now she’s going to have another kid. Maybe when our kids are older and not as needy, things will go back to normal. One can only hope!
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Post by cythe on Apr 26, 2019 8:39:23 GMT -6
I made it to my moms early this morning and we are leaving with the pupper in about a half hour. This stinks. I did manage to get a picture of the two of us though. Gracie, you sweet, loud, smelly dog.
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Post by Taitai on Apr 26, 2019 8:40:34 GMT -6
Oh, that is so hard cythe But, big hugs to you and your mom. That is really nice of you to be there for her. I’m so very sorry ☹️ ☹️
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Post by CoachTsWife on Apr 26, 2019 8:49:17 GMT -6
Wow - that is such a 180 Taitai. Everyone handles stress differently though; I hope they can get things under control a little (a lot) better before baby #2 arrives. Hugs to you and your mom cythe. Gracie looks like she's lived a really happy life.
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Post by cythe on Apr 26, 2019 14:52:20 GMT -6
Thank you guys, we did the thing. It was incredibly hard and we've been all weepy on and off since then. It really feels like days ago that we went to the vet, when in reality it's been only 6 hours.
We have a plot in the yard all picked out and will have a little ceremony for her tomorrow. Pets, man.
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Post by bootsorhearts1 on Apr 26, 2019 18:04:06 GMT -6
Sending hugs your way cythe
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Post by danvers on Apr 26, 2019 18:52:52 GMT -6
cythe I’m so sorry. Pets are very much a part of families and making those tough decisions, or watching our parents have to make them even, is tough. ((Hugs)) to you and your mom. Saint Taitai if I knew how to throw a celebration gif your way I would. That poor baby sounds like he needs to see a doctor ASAP with his diarrhea. From what you posted your friend does seems a little lost? Overwhelmed? Confused about adulting? I think the renovating excuse is perfect should they visit again.
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Post by duskymonkey on Apr 26, 2019 22:23:30 GMT -6
curmudgeon I wanted to reply about your co worker's story about animals in her kitchen. I am totally ignorant in thinking that everyone is mindful about kitchen hygiene. I am a total nazi about it. Now it has gotten me thinking. I just realized I missed an entire thread somehow, and I read curmudgeon ’s story. I have similar feelings to duskymonkey Legit shocked someone would think that is acceptable inside a house - let alone a kitchen where food is prepared. I eat street food in my country...but I’m worried about eating home baked goods from American people I don’t know now. 😩😆 OMG! yeah right! curmudgeon you definitely got me questioning now. I recall when I went home with my sister about 20 years ago now and we were sitting outside next to an open drain eating food prepared by the hawker - also right next to the open drain and we laughed that it wouldn't fly here in the US....we continued eating. can't shake my roots!
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Post by duskymonkey on Apr 26, 2019 22:32:49 GMT -6
I just realized I missed an entire thread somehow, and I read curmudgeon ’s story. I have similar feelings to duskymonkey Legit shocked someone would think that is acceptable inside a house - let alone a kitchen where food is prepared. I eat street food in my country...but I’m worried about eating home baked goods from American people I don’t know now. 😩😆 man people are just nasty. Also based on how people treat the work bathrooms, no way am I eating something from their houses. I’m also a no on kids “helping.” If DS1 helps bake cookies or a cake, I tell people upfront that he cracked the eggs or stirred etc. I don’t know if other kids are sticking their hands in the batter. Oh I thought of another reason 😂 I’ve even caught MIL using expired ingredients. I still eat at her house but I tease her about it. I don't get it too like can't you pick up the paper towel you dropped right next to the trash bin! Why???!!! I really question how their actual home looks like. When DS helped for the first time decorating cookies this last xmas for his teachers, I vehemently kept repeating to not lick his hands! it was kind of stressful TBH. Speaking of expired ingredients, a couple of years ago I noticed the bottle dressing MIL had expired in 2012! I very almost slapped the bottle out of hubs hands. I feel bad but every time I go there now, I make sure to get a bottle for us - luckily the ILs don't stock vinaigrette so that's my excuse for getting our own.
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Post by duskymonkey on Apr 26, 2019 22:41:38 GMT -6
That is something Taitai . I would be mortified if my family caused so much damage to a friend's belongings. I would've replaced the books and toys and offered to pay for repairs of the other things. Good grief. You guys are really good friends and I'm glad your home is back to zen for a bit. It’s so strange that they are such horrible, selfish house guests. Like - they really took advantage of our hospitality on multiple occasions this past year. I never would have thought she would do this to me, and I think if they hadn’t had a kid with them, it would have been a really different experience. Before when we were friends (no kids), she was always the first to help clean up if we had a big dinner at my home. She brought us a nice house warming gift when we moved into our new condo in the states. She came and visited when I had DS1 (she didn’t have kids yet), and she brought really thoughtful gifts & was such an easy house guest. But then she had this kid, adopted this “no rules” mentality, and she seems very overwhelmed and just generally clueless about how to parent him. I don’t mean to be harsh, but he’s very destructive and just...out of control. Her husband also hardly helps at all with the kid, and will just walk off to work out or disappear, while she never gets a break. I get the sense she is just trying to tread water. It’s like - a 180 degree change from the person I knew. And now she’s going to have another kid. Maybe when our kids are older and not as needy, things will go back to normal. One can only hope! Are you able to suggest her some parenting books or something? Hubs and I finally have settled on Love and Logic method and maybe you already know about it. Also for the others if you haven't heard of this method/book...I highly recommend it. Some people just aren't natural parents and there's absolutely nothing wrong to seek help.
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Post by duskymonkey on Apr 26, 2019 22:50:41 GMT -6
hahaha I had no idea. I have honestly never used buttermilk. But buttermilk pie is my all time #1 favorite. I have never heard of, nor tried buttermilk pie. I just googled and it looks good though 😋 Is this the same as chess pie? I’ve always wanted to try to make one but never got around to it.
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Post by duskymonkey on Apr 26, 2019 22:52:20 GMT -6
cythe, big big hugs...she looks like a happy dog. So so sorry your mom and you have to go through this.
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Post by duskymonkey on Apr 26, 2019 23:10:21 GMT -6
Well winter doesn’t seem to want to leave...forecast for snow Monday and Tuesday. How very appropriate with GOT and all...I’m hoping it’ll come out on BR fast after the finale. Speaking of GOT, lil fella booked it down the hallway toward the bathroom yelling “hold on, hold on...” we would’ve made it but I ran him to our bathroom instead and by the time I got his pants and diaper off, he had a small lump but went 2x more so I suppose all in all pretty good 🤣 those of you watch GOT this totally sounded and reminded me of poor Hodor. Anyways I think it might be time to get pull ups, do they even make them that small? In other news, we’re havimg a tough time transitioning to 1 nap. He’s just such a horrid napper, he would wake up crying 45 mins into his nap, is clearly tired but refuses to sleep more, I then spend another 30 mins to at times nearly an hour to get him down again cos he’s obviously still tired. I thought it was his cold which he still has a slight runny nose so maybe next week he’ll be ok? And actually sleep longer than 1 hour? 🤷🏻♀️ Maybe I shouldn’t stress so much about it , he STTN for about 10 hrs.... but I s hard trying to get anything done.
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Post by Taitai on Apr 26, 2019 23:43:55 GMT -6
It’s so strange that they are such horrible, selfish house guests. Like - they really took advantage of our hospitality on multiple occasions this past year. I never would have thought she would do this to me, and I think if they hadn’t had a kid with them, it would have been a really different experience. Before when we were friends (no kids), she was always the first to help clean up if we had a big dinner at my home. She brought us a nice house warming gift when we moved into our new condo in the states. She came and visited when I had DS1 (she didn’t have kids yet), and she brought really thoughtful gifts & was such an easy house guest. But then she had this kid, adopted this “no rules” mentality, and she seems very overwhelmed and just generally clueless about how to parent him. I don’t mean to be harsh, but he’s very destructive and just...out of control. Her husband also hardly helps at all with the kid, and will just walk off to work out or disappear, while she never gets a break. I get the sense she is just trying to tread water. It’s like - a 180 degree change from the person I knew. And now she’s going to have another kid. Maybe when our kids are older and not as needy, things will go back to normal. One can only hope! Are you able to suggest her some parenting books or something? Hubs and I finally have settled on Love and Logic method and maybe you already know about it. Also for the others if you haven't heard of this method/book...I highly recommend it. Some people just aren't natural parents and there's absolutely nothing wrong to seek help. The problem is that she absolutely is not receptive to any suggestions or even book recommendations. Her husband is very receptive, but he hardly parents, so his feelings don’t really seem to matter. She’s extremely defensive, yet she did read a ton of parenting books while pregnant (like the “Brain Rules for Babies” book I love). She told me she had aspirations to follow that advice, and then she just threw it all out the window. She said to me - “We’re terrible parents, and I know we don’t do things the right way; that’s why my kid is a disaster.” 😬 She gives her kid probably 5-7 hours of screen time a day (honestly, maybe more based on my observations during the time we have spent with them); the kid sleeps only 7-8 hours per night with no nap; eats very little solid food (consumes about 1.5 Liters of milk per day, from a bottle); kid will not sit at the table; never listens or picks up. I was just looking at their kid at one point, and thought to myself, “I’m so sorry for you.” But I can’t really do anything else 🤷♀️
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Post by curmudgeon on Apr 27, 2019 12:41:45 GMT -6
I have never heard of, nor tried buttermilk pie. I just googled and it looks good though 😋 Is this the same as chess pie? I’ve always wanted to try to make one but never got around to it. its similar I think! I’ve never had chess pie but google tells me it’s sweeter and buttermilk pie has a little lemon juice to do a sweet/tangy taste. However, I’ve never noticed a lemony taste in buttermilk pie. I’ve tried to make one once but the middle would not set. It was a disaster.
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Post by thechickencoop on Apr 28, 2019 6:36:21 GMT -6
Thank you guys, we did the thing. It was incredibly hard and we've been all weepy on and off since then. It really feels like days ago that we went to the vet, when in reality it's been only 6 hours. We have a plot in the yard all picked out and will have a little ceremony for her tomorrow. Pets, man. Oh cythe I'm so sorry.
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Post by cythe on Apr 28, 2019 15:35:15 GMT -6
Guys, I dont wanna watch tonight's episode of GoT!
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Post by CoachTsWife on Apr 29, 2019 8:30:55 GMT -6
Are you able to suggest her some parenting books or something? Hubs and I finally have settled on Love and Logic method and maybe you already know about it. Also for the others if you haven't heard of this method/book...I highly recommend it. Some people just aren't natural parents and there's absolutely nothing wrong to seek help. The problem is that she absolutely is not receptive to any suggestions or even book recommendations. Her husband is very receptive, but he hardly parents, so his feelings don’t really seem to matter. She’s extremely defensive, yet she did read a ton of parenting books while pregnant (like the “Brain Rules for Babies” book I love). She told me she had aspirations to follow that advice, and then she just threw it all out the window. She said to me - “We’re terrible parents, and I know we don’t do things the right way; that’s why my kid is a disaster.” 😬 She gives her kid probably 5-7 hours of screen time a day (honestly, maybe more based on my observations during the time we have spent with them); the kid sleeps only 7-8 hours per night with no nap; eats very little solid food (consumes about 1.5 Liters of milk per day, from a bottle); kid will not sit at the table; never listens or picks up.I was just looking at their kid at one point, and thought to myself, “I’m so sorry for you.” But I can’t really do anything else 🤷♀️ Wait - how old is he?
This (bolded portion) makes me feel so sad for him.
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Post by Taitai on Apr 29, 2019 18:13:07 GMT -6
The problem is that she absolutely is not receptive to any suggestions or even book recommendations. Her husband is very receptive, but he hardly parents, so his feelings don’t really seem to matter. She’s extremely defensive, yet she did read a ton of parenting books while pregnant (like the “Brain Rules for Babies” book I love). She told me she had aspirations to follow that advice, and then she just threw it all out the window. She said to me - “We’re terrible parents, and I know we don’t do things the right way; that’s why my kid is a disaster.” 😬 She gives her kid probably 5-7 hours of screen time a day (honestly, maybe more based on my observations during the time we have spent with them); the kid sleeps only 7-8 hours per night with no nap; eats very little solid food (consumes about 1.5 Liters of milk per day, from a bottle); kid will not sit at the table; never listens or picks up.I was just looking at their kid at one point, and thought to myself, “I’m so sorry for you.” But I can’t really do anything else 🤷♀️ Wait - how old is he?
This (bolded portion) makes me feel so sad for him.
The kid is 2.5. Definitely needs more sleep than 7-8 hours per night! And get gets like 90% of his calories from milk 😩
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Post by curmudgeon on Apr 29, 2019 20:34:02 GMT -6
Wait - how old is he?
This (bolded portion) makes me feel so sad for him.
The kid is 2.5. Definitely needs more sleep than 7-8 hours per night! And get gets like 90% of his calories from milk 😩 well no wonder he has diarrhea all the time! I’d have diarrhea all day every day too if milk was my only source of nutrition. Does he not want solids or it’s easier for her to give milk vs prepare a snack or meal?
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Post by Taitai on Apr 29, 2019 22:10:14 GMT -6
The kid is 2.5. Definitely needs more sleep than 7-8 hours per night! And get gets like 90% of his calories from milk 😩 well no wonder he has diarrhea all the time! I’d have diarrhea all day every day too if milk was my only source of nutrition. Does he not want solids or it’s easier for her to give milk vs prepare a snack or meal? He won’t eat regular food - just always whines and asks for “bo-me” (which means bottle milk). He will maybe eat rice, if it’s squeezed by his mom or dad into a ball and then popped into his mouth (he won’t pick it up and feed himself). He would never sit at a chair longer than 30 seconds to eat a normal meal anyways, so for her, it’s just easier to give him a bottle of milk to guzzle all day. Which he then carries around all over the place and gets milk all over my house. That was another rule we established - no taking the milk bottle out of the dining room. She just has no rules, limits, or discipline with him...I’m astonished some people actually parent this way. I’ve never seen something like this IRL.
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Post by CoachTsWife on Apr 30, 2019 7:59:32 GMT -6
Wait - how old is he?
This (bolded portion) makes me feel so sad for him.
The kid is 2.5. Definitely needs more sleep than 7-8 hours per night! And get gets like 90% of his calories from milk 😩 Holy cow. (lol pun not intended)
I really really hope they can get a handle on everything before baby #2 gets here.
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Post by doodlemommy on Apr 30, 2019 14:33:26 GMT -6
Taitai you are a saint. I would have lost my marbles after the first visit, this one is like a million times worse😳
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Post by doodlemommy on Apr 30, 2019 14:37:13 GMT -6
We have the most crazy busy day today and when I got DS out of bed this morning I looked out the window and it was snowing 😭 It is right around 0C so it is melting off roads and stuff but it’s so depressing!
DD had ballet and then she and I had dentist appointments (for cleanings). My mom booked the appointment before mine so she could help with DS. She is amazing and booked her appointment for the same day as ours next time too so she can wrangle DS and the newborn while I get my teeth cleaned. DS was less than enthused about the big dentist chair but he did let my dad (our dentist) see/count his teeth. At 18 months I’ll call that a win. Now the kids are sleeping and we still have swimming lessons to do. Phew!
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Post by doodlemommy on Apr 30, 2019 14:39:23 GMT -6
Also, my sister is currently 4 days over due with her first baby and losing it a bit 😬 I told her that the average first baby is 8 days late (according to our prenatal classes with DD) and to expect she would be late but I guess she didn’t believe me because she was convinced the baby would be early or on time and she is not. I am excited to meet my niece but quite frankly my schedule the next couple days is crazy so if she could wait until Saturday...
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