starbuck
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Post by starbuck on Mar 24, 2019 15:30:56 GMT -6
I'm speechless.
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richard
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Post by richard on Mar 24, 2019 15:46:33 GMT -6
Reading Seth Abramsons tweets it sounds like Mueller only investigated the supposed collusion pertaining to the IRA and Russian hackers, not the broader collusion as he's been writing to for the past 2 years? As much as I don't know what to take with a grain of salt, he's been pretty spot on that MSM doesn't understand the depth of the fuckedupness with trump and so many other countries, so they generalize reporting which leads to a lot of misunderstanding by the average person. Well I imagine he would say that since he has a book coming out all about Trump’s collusion. But some dude who is a professor in NH does not know more than Mueller’s team. Let’s be real.
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Post by cakewench on Mar 24, 2019 15:49:37 GMT -6
I’m feeling extremely pessimistic about everything right now. None of it matters, the asshole will keep getting away with shit, and he’s going to get re-elected.
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Post by bubblehape on Mar 24, 2019 16:05:10 GMT -6
Reading Seth Abramsons tweets it sounds like Mueller only investigated the supposed collusion pertaining to the IRA and Russian hackers, not the broader collusion as he's been writing to for the past 2 years? As much as I don't know what to take with a grain of salt, he's been pretty spot on that MSM doesn't understand the depth of the fuckedupness with trump and so many other countries, so they generalize reporting which leads to a lot of misunderstanding by the average person. Well I imagine he would say that since he has a book coming out all about Trump’s collusion. But some dude who is a professor in NH does not know more than Mueller’s team. Let’s be real. I don't think he knows more than Muellers team - it was in Barrs memo about specifically what he investigated. I definitely consider the book aspect too and try to look at basically everything from a "what do they have to gain/lose" perspective. It's just worth looking more closely at from various sources, not just the super high level msm posts
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Post by dc2london on Mar 24, 2019 16:14:15 GMT -6
Will be interesting to see if the Mueller report bears this theory out or if it’s just a theory. I think this is true and I think it's appropriate. I reallyreallyreally wanted Mueller to nail him on the obstruction but, honestly, that wasn't within his mandate. Bob Mueller did *exactly* what he was told to do. So anyone who bitches about him is being a partisan hack. And I think that's exactly what he was going for.
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Post by PandaWatch on Mar 24, 2019 16:30:28 GMT -6
This is not really current events but... if you have access to HBO, I recommend watching The Inventor. It's a documentary about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. I think it covers the same details as the book Bad Blood, but was new for me. We watched it Friday night. It was bananas.
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Post by bugglesbee on Mar 24, 2019 16:35:06 GMT -6
I’m feeling extremely pessimistic about everything right now. None of it matters, the asshole will keep getting away with shit, and he’s going to get re-elected. I am here too. I hate it, I want so badly to feel optimistic about the future. Some people who I really used to admire are still supportive of T and I just can’t understand it. It really hurts me, I have unfollowed most (not local to me), I should just cut the rest and save myself the disappointment.
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Post by dc2london on Mar 24, 2019 16:35:17 GMT -6
I'm just saying if I see a bunch of left wing Jim Jordsns out there demanding that we investigate crooked Mueller I. Will. Riot.
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Post by dc2london on Mar 24, 2019 16:35:59 GMT -6
This does not surprise me. But it does intrigue me
NEW: The special counsel’s office deliberated at length with DOJ officials about issuing a subpoena for President Donald Trump to be interviewed, but ultimately the decision was made not to move forward, according to source @lauraajarrett @evanperez
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Post by enchanted on Mar 24, 2019 16:40:19 GMT -6
CBS just broke into the games with a special report and basically said "No collusion" and then showed that orange turd saying it was "total exoneration."
I didn't eat lunch today because busy, but I am sorely tempted to take those calories and drink dinner.
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Post by cakewench on Mar 24, 2019 16:46:58 GMT -6
Ok this made me lol:
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Dr. Cox
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Post by Dr. Cox on Mar 24, 2019 16:48:52 GMT -6
I’m ignoring the Mueller stuff, right now. I just can’t today. And Twitter can fuck right off too.
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 24, 2019 17:03:48 GMT -6
Honestly I think all this celebrating is going to blow up in conservative’s faces. I really do. POTUS still has the SDNY breathing down his neck and shit I’d be scared.
Also, principal conclusions by a trump appointee aren’t good enough. I believe the conclusions, but we need to see the whole report. There’s still a lot of room in there for info that we the public need to know about the President. Info I still believe that proves he is not fit to be where he is.
Either way, the conclusions don’t surprise me. I’m just mad Don jr didn’t get an indictment because what a canker sore that guy is. Woof.
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Post by ktg on Mar 24, 2019 17:31:11 GMT -6
Honestly I think all this celebrating is going to blow up in conservative’s faces. I really do. POTUS still has the SDNY breathing down his neck and shit I’d be scared. Also, principal conclusions by a trump appointee aren’t good enough. I believe the conclusions, but we need to see the whole report. There’s still a lot of room in there for info that we the public need to know about the President. Info I still believe that proves he is not fit to be where he is. Either way, the conclusions don’t surprise me. I’m just mad Don jr didn’t get an indictment because what a canker sore that guy is. Woof. I really appreciate your measured optimism.
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Post by jaygee on Mar 24, 2019 18:18:12 GMT -6
I’m ignoring the Mueller stuff, right now. I just can’t today. And Twitter can fuck right off too. Room on that couch for one more? This is where I am. I’m going to do a face mask and pretend that tomorrow isn’t Monday.
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Post by cnf on Mar 24, 2019 18:18:25 GMT -6
I just... I don’t understand. I’m flabbergasted. I'm here. Like, what? Nothing? How? This is me too. I'm so perplexed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 18:22:29 GMT -6
Bingo ladybrienne. I want to read the full report, not just Trump’s hand picked AG’s conclusions. Although maybe if there really is nothing we can just put this to bed and focus on 2020. I am super bummed there doesn’t appear to be something iron clad against Trump tho. I’ll never not believe he’s not a dirty conman criminal.
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cnf
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Post by cnf on Mar 24, 2019 18:22:53 GMT -6
I’m feeling extremely pessimistic about everything right now. None of it matters, the asshole will keep getting away with shit, and he’s going to get re-elected. I'm feeling very here right now too. I might need a politics break. Especially with the rest of my life in shambles right now. Is Congress going to get to see the report? I imagine they'll raise hell if not.
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Post by byjove on Mar 24, 2019 19:19:57 GMT -6
I’m just trying to pretend I didn’t see any of the news today. I prefer la-la land.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Mar 24, 2019 19:33:03 GMT -6
cnf maybe I missed something, but I hope you're ok. Can we help?
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Post by oreobitsy on Mar 24, 2019 19:56:54 GMT -6
This is not really current events but... if you have access to HBO, I recommend watching The Inventor. It's a documentary about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. I think it covers the same details as the book Bad Blood, but was new for me. We watched it Friday night. It was bananas. I was intrigued when the behavioral scientist (I think that was his job) described the dice experiment. People were more likely to lie and not have tension about lying when they thought they were doing so for a greater good. I don't think Holmes necessarily fits that characterization, but it did make me wonder how many politicians operate in that way.
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Post by doublestuf on Mar 24, 2019 20:00:22 GMT -6
FUCK RIGHT OFF AND GO STRAIGHT TO HELL. DO NOT PASS GO. DO NOT COLLECT $200.
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cnf
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Post by cnf on Mar 25, 2019 4:05:39 GMT -6
cnf maybe I missed something, but I hope you're ok. Can we help? I'm ok. My H took a new job an hour and a half away, so he's gone a lot now. I work a really stressful job all day then parent alone all night. We need to get our house on the market, I need a new job and the only one I can seem to find is the school district I worked at nine years ago that I absolutely hated. I just to sit in my car in the middle of the day and cry type of hated. We break ground to build a new house in two weeks, and I just feel like I'm drowning a lot of days right now. But it's ok.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Mar 25, 2019 5:46:07 GMT -6
I'm sorry cnf. That's a lot. I hope this tough time is short.
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Post by jaygee on Mar 25, 2019 8:11:15 GMT -6
Hugs and hair pats cnf. That sounds like a lot. I hope things settle down soon. Can you lean on friends at all? Maybe one of your kids friends can have them over for dinner or a weekend play date so you can catch a chance to breath.
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Post by Ls2012 on Mar 25, 2019 8:21:32 GMT -6
My goodness, cnf. That is a lot. I hope you all catch a break soon!
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Post by oreobitsy on Mar 25, 2019 9:35:45 GMT -6
cnf Hugs. That's a lot to handle all at once.
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