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Post by thatgolfb on Mar 14, 2019 10:32:17 GMT -6
I don't personally think they are *that* different, but I do think one drink at a business lunch is slightly different than a bottle of wine in a lecture where you are supposed to be learning. I don't currently have the words to coherently explain why, though. Because a business lunch is intended to have a socializing feel. I get what you're saying. Yes, I think that's it. There is a certain expectation, especially if you are supposed to be entertaining clients or whatever. I don't agree that this should be the case, but the pressure (and acceptance) is there.
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 14, 2019 10:32:52 GMT -6
What's the difference between drinking to get through class vs drinking during work hours? I am neutral on both topics but just wondering what makes the difference for those against class drinking I don't personally think they are *that* different, but I do think one drink at a business lunch is slightly different than a bottle of wine in a lecture where you are supposed to be learning. I don't currently have the words to coherently explain why, though. I agree a whole bottle is too much. I don't think I have a black and white opinion on this I guess. I can see bartender having a few drinks on a shift, and I can see business lunches, etc. But I guess I can also see a glass of wine or a beer in a class, especially a night time class? Obvi you shouldn't get wasted or rowdy but that applies for work stuff too. So, idk lol
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Post by gussie on Mar 14, 2019 10:33:46 GMT -6
I knew a lot of drinkers in college and I can’t say I’ve ever heard of drinking in class, that sounds like a recipe for disaster.
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Post by rubysue on Mar 14, 2019 10:34:43 GMT -6
I was a nightmare in college, but I never drank in class. I had to draw a line somewhere.
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Post by STP on Mar 14, 2019 10:35:25 GMT -6
Because a business lunch is intended to have a socializing feel. I get what you're saying. Yes, I think that's it. There is a certain expectation, especially if you are supposed to be entertaining clients or whatever. I don't agree that this should be the case, but the pressure (and acceptance) is there. When we had agent lunches, they would always order a glass of wine (because the publisher representative was paying). We were told we could get one to "appear social," but that was it and we were encouraged to leave half the glass there. Which, lol no but this was absolutely discussed and clear expectations laid out in terms of our behavior. Agent lunches were the best. Sigh.
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Post by STP on Mar 14, 2019 10:35:46 GMT -6
I was a nightmare in college, but I never drank in class. I had to draw a line somewhere. I def showed up still drunk from the night before, but I did not imbibe in class.
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Post by gussie on Mar 14, 2019 10:35:51 GMT -6
I don't personally think they are *that* different, but I do think one drink at a business lunch is slightly different than a bottle of wine in a lecture where you are supposed to be learning. I don't currently have the words to coherently explain why, though. I agree a whole bottle is too much. I don't think I have a black and white opinion on this I guess. I can see bartender having a few drinks on a shift, and I can see business lunches, etc. But I guess I can also see a glass of wine or a beer in a class, especially a night time class? Obvi you shouldn't get wasted or rowdy but that applies for work stuff too. So, idk lol I think for me the difference is location. You work at a bar, and there is drinking everywhere, it makes sense. You go out to a business lunch and a client wants a glass of wine and you join in, ok. But sneaking it into class is different, it doesn’t belong there. If your class was in a bar or restaurant then I might have another opinion.
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Post by wasabi on Mar 14, 2019 10:37:17 GMT -6
I guess I think age has a lot to do with it. At 21-22 I think that was a time I was learning coping mechanisms still. I relied on alcohol and it’s not something I wish I would have gone to then because it likely led to my problems with it now. I’m fine not drinking most nights but it’s something my mind goes to whenever I’ve had any sort of day.
I assume people drinking at work are a little older, and while Im sure it is 100% an issue for a lot of those people, they’re not still forming their little brains.
I don’t know, the above could be all bullshit it’s just where my mind is on the issue currently.
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Post by rubysue on Mar 14, 2019 10:37:19 GMT -6
I was a nightmare in college, but I never drank in class. I had to draw a line somewhere. I def showed up still drunk from the night before, but I did not imbibe in class. Oh, yes, same. Big difference.
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 14, 2019 10:37:47 GMT -6
I agree a whole bottle is too much. I don't think I have a black and white opinion on this I guess. I can see bartender having a few drinks on a shift, and I can see business lunches, etc. But I guess I can also see a glass of wine or a beer in a class, especially a night time class? Obvi you shouldn't get wasted or rowdy but that applies for work stuff too. So, idk lol I think for me the difference is location. You work at a bar, and there is drinking everywhere, it makes sense. You go out to a business lunch and a client wants a glass of wine and you join in, ok. But sneaking it into class is different, it doesn’t belong there. If your class was in a bar or restaurant then I might have another opinion. I can see this too haha
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Post by STP on Mar 14, 2019 10:40:40 GMT -6
Then there was the time I got fucking wasted at an agent Christmas party, puked all over the F Train tracks, got lost in Cobble Hill and my husband had to race from our apartment to find me.
He emerged from the mist. He's my very own superhero.
Who had to then guidel his sobbing wife who was screaming "I DON'T DESERVE YOU WHY DO YOU LOVE ME?"
Ah. To be 25 again.
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Post by gussie on Mar 14, 2019 10:41:14 GMT -6
My sister took a wine class in college, that would be a good one to drink in. I think it was online though.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Mar 14, 2019 10:44:56 GMT -6
I'm legit shocked at bringing alcohol to class so brazenly. If she would have brought it in a yeti or something no one would have known. It screams "look at me, I do what I want". And definitely doesn't seem healthy. Maybe she was doing a social experiment for another class.
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Post by shadows on Mar 14, 2019 10:50:43 GMT -6
I had a high school teacher who DEFINITELY did not have coffee in his coffee cup. It was a 9 a.m. class, too. If you’re teaching high school, I won’t fault you. A local teacher got a DUI on his way home from work a few days ago...
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Post by DavidRose on Mar 14, 2019 10:57:51 GMT -6
I'm legit shocked at bringing alcohol to class so brazenly. If she would have brought it in a yeti or something no one would have known. It screams "look at me, I do what I want". And definitely doesn't seem healthy. It almost feels like it was a dare or something.
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Post by hardlyluck on Mar 14, 2019 10:58:06 GMT -6
I guess my UO would have to be that I don’t think it’s a college professors job to try and get someone help because they had a glass of wine (if they are of legal age) in class once. Based on the number of people in here who said they drank in class that would turn into a major undertaking. Never drank in class(never thought about it actually) but have definitely smoked (garaged) before classes.
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Post by hardlyluck on Mar 14, 2019 10:59:52 GMT -6
I'm legit shocked at bringing alcohol to class so brazenly. If she would have brought it in a yeti or something no one would have known. It screams "look at me, I do what I want". And definitely doesn't seem healthy. It almost feels like it was a dare or something. I would agree with all of this, it’s very attention seeking to bust out an entire bottle of wine. Was it a twist top at least, or did she produce her bottle opener and make a production out of that?
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Post by rvasc on Mar 14, 2019 11:03:09 GMT -6
The difference for me was coworker vs authority figure.
If my coworker (at a different job where it didn’t matter as much) took a hit and I saw, well, meh. If I’m the supervisor, there will be a conversation.
Same for student to student vs student to professor.
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Post by rvasc on Mar 14, 2019 11:03:56 GMT -6
I guess my UO would have to be that I don’t think it’s a college professors job to try and get someone help because they had a glass of wine (if they are of legal age) in class once. Based on the number of people in here who said they drank in class that would turn into a major undertaking. Never drank in class(never thought about it actually) but have definitely smoked (garaged) before classes. That’s not the same as telling her to put it away.
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Post by hardlyluck on Mar 14, 2019 11:04:33 GMT -6
I guess my UO would have to be that I don’t think it’s a college professors job to try and get someone help because they had a glass of wine (if they are of legal age) in class once. Based on the number of people in here who said they drank in class that would turn into a major undertaking. Never drank in class(never thought about it actually) but have definitely smoked (garaged) before classes. That’s not the same as telling her to put it away. I agree.
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Post by wasabi on Mar 14, 2019 11:08:30 GMT -6
I guess my UO would have to be that I don’t think it’s a college professors job to try and get someone help because they had a glass of wine (if they are of legal age) in class once. Based on the number of people in here who said they drank in class that would turn into a major undertaking. Never drank in class(never thought about it actually) but have definitely smoked (garaged) before classes. Oh I don’t think it’s their job at all, I just thought it was a weird thing to jump to thinking alcohol should be allowed in class due to someone saying it helps their anxiety instead of thinking maybe it could be an issue.
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Post by rvasc on Mar 14, 2019 11:08:41 GMT -6
Upon more reflection, I feel like some places should be “safe zones” for people in recovery. Class seems like one of them.
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Post by greykitty on Mar 14, 2019 11:10:26 GMT -6
Are you talking about Robert Heinlein? When I was young, I really enjoyed his earlier, more or less YA work. Not as keen on the work he produced in his last years. That said, of course he was one of the deans of early sci fi writing. The movie was quite different from the book, IIRC. I think so? I looked it up on amazon. This blew my mind. I would hope it was different then the movie, because my god that movie is on the top of my best bad movies list. It's hilarious, but it's not even B movie quality. Yeah, the book was pretty controversial due to certain themes, etc., but apparently was more a jumping off point for the movie than a retelling. In fact, if I remember right, the movie was supposedly to be a satire of Heinlein's themes but didn't come out that way? He did the book in 1959 so it's definitely something that hasn't, IMO, aged well in a lot of respects, but Heinlein certainly was influential in the whole sci-fi world.
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Post by hardlyluck on Mar 14, 2019 11:10:49 GMT -6
I guess my UO would have to be that I don’t think it’s a college professors job to try and get someone help because they had a glass of wine (if they are of legal age) in class once. Based on the number of people in here who said they drank in class that would turn into a major undertaking. Never drank in class(never thought about it actually) but have definitely smoked (garaged) before classes. Oh I don’t think it’s their job at all, I just thought it was a weird thing to jump to thinking alcohol should be allowed in class due to someone saying it helps their anxiety instead of thinking maybe it could be an issue. My comment stemmed from someone saying a few pages back that they would hope a professor would realize it was unhealthy and get them help. I can’t remember who sorry😬 I’ll go look.
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Post by Bookshelves on Mar 14, 2019 11:13:11 GMT -6
Did you not think it was weird that no music was coming out?! Also don’t you inhale when you vape? These silent reverse harmonicas are a new craze!! This is awesome. A harmonica makes noise when you’re inhaling and exhaling. /SORRY I JUST REALLY LOVE HARMONICAS
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Post by wasabi on Mar 14, 2019 11:13:57 GMT -6
Oh I don’t think it’s their job at all, I just thought it was a weird thing to jump to thinking alcohol should be allowed in class due to someone saying it helps their anxiety instead of thinking maybe it could be an issue. My comment stemmed from someone saying a few pages back that they would hope a professor would realize it was unhealthy and get them help. I can’t remember who sorry😬 I’ll go look. Ohhhhhhh my bad. Well in that case I agree with you.
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Post by piratecat on Mar 14, 2019 11:14:53 GMT -6
Also don’t you inhale when you vape? These silent reverse harmonicas are a new craze!! This is awesome. A harmonica makes noise when you’re inhaling and exhaling. /SORRY I JUST REALLY LOVE HARMONICAS 😂
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Post by Cher on Mar 14, 2019 11:16:02 GMT -6
In law school, there was one open area that the whole building opened up to. About once a month, they would have networking events where they would roll kegs in and you could schmooze. It was the best coming out of a class and being like, “oh shit, Cory Booker is here and free beer!”
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Post by sheilathetank on Mar 14, 2019 11:20:36 GMT -6
I refuse to believe that that woman opened the wine like that for anything other than show. There are a million ways to bring alcohol into class that don't draw attention to yourself. She wanted a rise and she got one.
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Post by gussie on Mar 14, 2019 11:21:47 GMT -6
I refuse to believe that that woman opened the wine like that for anything other than show. There are a million ways to bring alcohol into class that don't draw attention to yourself. She wanted a rise and she got one. This is where I am too. It was more for the show or story. It’s way easier to just sneak it in, she wanted a reaction.
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