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Post by spicysalmonroll on Sept 28, 2018 8:21:02 GMT -6
The hotel/ bed/ room arrangement topic on the FFFC has me wondering about a trip I have coming up. We have a clusterfuck happening because everyone decided to invite someone to our girl's weekend in NYC.
We have girls flying in from Atlanta, Phoenix, and Denver and I'm driving from MA. Everyone is staying a different number of nights from 4-2 nights. My friend who originally spearheaded the trip is looking at family style hotels/ air bnbs and she keeps saying that I might need to bring an air mattress down with me since I'm the only one driving and since she's having a hard time finding a place with enough beds/ pull out sofas. Then she keeps saying that we're all going to split the total cost of the apartment. So if the total booking is $1500, we'll split it 7 ways. I feel like this isn't fair because why should someone staying 2 nights on an air mattress pay the same as someone staying 4 nights in a bed? What do you guys think, is there any way to split this up or should we just suck it up and go with it?
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Post by brux on Sept 28, 2018 8:23:51 GMT -6
I have actually done it both ways - where the cost is split evenly because the trip is 4 days for the majority, so it's most fair for them to not pay more because someone's staying fewer days. And I've also done it on a per person per day amount, where the people who stay longer pay more.
Frankly, if hanging out with my friend sis a priority AND I can afford to pay a little more, or pay an equal amount for an air mattress, then I do it. Because I like my friends more than I like my money.
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Post by brux on Sept 28, 2018 8:24:50 GMT -6
But what I would do now is start my own search for a place (or two hotel rooms) that make the most sense that would get me a bed better than an air mattress. Tell the planner that no, you don't want to do that air mattress plan, and that you'll help her find a better option.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 28, 2018 8:25:05 GMT -6
Is someone complaining about the split?
Otherwise you need to total up the total number of nights everyone is staying, divide that into the $1500 and see how much is is per night, then charge each person by the number of nights.
So really it depends on how much you like math.
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Post by brux on Sept 28, 2018 8:25:29 GMT -6
An air mattress is better than a pull-out couch, tho, so maybe that's a blessing in disguise?
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Post by spicysalmonroll on Sept 28, 2018 8:33:38 GMT -6
Is someone complaining about the split? Otherwise you need to total up the total number of nights everyone is staying, divide that into the $1500 and see how much is is per night, then charge each person by the number of nights. So really it depends on how much you like math. I don't think anyone has complained yet, since we haven't booked anything yet. I'm just thinking preemptively for the girls doing 2 nights, because I don't know if maybe they agreed to 2 nights due to schedule reasons or budget reasons. They might be thinking they can only afford 2 nights. But maybe it's not my problem to worry about and they'll speak up if they want to. ?? |
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Post by Pistol on Sept 28, 2018 8:36:01 GMT -6
How many people are coming total? How many for only 2 nights? Is it possible for them to room together in a hotel room and the rest of you in other hotel rooms so they are only paying for their 2 nights without changing stuff for the others? Then everyone divides the cost with their roommate.
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Post by spicysalmonroll on Sept 28, 2018 8:36:48 GMT -6
brux, I have been sending her better options that will fit all of us and she keeps sending me back small shit because she's set on staying in Manhattan and I'm not. No one else is really speaking up at all about what they prefer. But that is a good point about paying a little extra just to even it out and spend time with everyone, thanks.
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Post by allthekristys on Sept 28, 2018 8:42:32 GMT -6
I feel 2 ways about this.
Depending on the dynamics, I would probably just say don't make it a thing if its not yet a thing.
But on the other hand, if I were the person flying in and staying 2 nights on an air mattress, I would probably be a little salty. At least offer those girls the beds if they are going to be paying the same?
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Post by brux on Sept 28, 2018 8:43:24 GMT -6
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Post by spicysalmonroll on Sept 28, 2018 8:51:00 GMT -6
brux, thanks, I'll totally check that out!!
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Post by spicysalmonroll on Sept 28, 2018 8:55:03 GMT -6
How many people are coming total? How many for only 2 nights? Is it possible for them to room together in a hotel room and the rest of you in other hotel rooms so they are only paying for their 2 nights without changing stuff for the others? Then everyone divides the cost with their roommate. It's messy because one of the 2 nighters is flying in and a 4 nighter is her cousin, so they really want to stay in the same apartment to hang out. I guess I was thinking of the cost difference since I am only 2 nights, but I honestly don't know the other people's feelings on it, it doesn't seem like they've said anything about it yet. So I guess I'll just roll with what everybody else agrees on and if the other people don't mind splitting the whole bill then I will too. (my reason for the shorter trip is work schedule, not purely budget). |
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Post by lolacachia on Sept 28, 2018 9:04:21 GMT -6
I would start by splitting the fee per night: So $2000 total would be $500 a night. And then each night per person: So if 2 people occupy a night, $250 each. If 5 people occupy a night, $100 each. I probably wouldn't try to pay less for being on an airmattress, but that's because I'm a wuss. This seems most fair to me and don't even bring the actual sleeping apparatus into it. |
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Post by Pistol on Sept 28, 2018 9:13:38 GMT -6
How many people are coming total? How many for only 2 nights? Is it possible for them to room together in a hotel room and the rest of you in other hotel rooms so they are only paying for their 2 nights without changing stuff for the others? Then everyone divides the cost with their roommate. It's messy because one of the 2 nighters is flying in and a 4 nighter is her cousin, so they really want to stay in the same apartment to hang out. I guess I was thinking of the cost difference since I am only 2 nights, but I honestly don't know the other people's feelings on it, it doesn't seem like they've said anything about it yet. So I guess I'll just roll with what everybody else agrees on and if the other people don't mind splitting the whole bill then I will too. (my reason for the shorter trip is work schedule, not purely budget). Ok so the other chick and her cousin share a room. You share a room with another 4 nighter for those 2 nights. Then the other 2 nights cousin and your roommate share? |
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Post by tatorhead328 on Sept 28, 2018 9:13:40 GMT -6
NGL, I would not be happy paying the same amount as other people who were staying 4 nights if I was only staying 2. I would think a formula like the one mentioned above would make sense.
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Post by coconutbacon on Sept 28, 2018 9:14:11 GMT -6
It’s actually a quicker trip to the airport from there too (without traffic, 20 minutes via cab from LGA) and you’ll actually have a shot at finding free parking, since you said you’ll be driving. And it’s a cool neighborhood. |
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Post by brux on Sept 28, 2018 9:16:14 GMT -6
It’s actually a quicker trip to the airport from there too (without traffic, 20 minutes via cab from LGA) and you’ll actually have a shot at finding free parking, since you said you’ll be driving. And it’s a cool neighborhood. it was really fun! A good friend had a wedding reception in a bar in a few blocks away from the hotel, so I did a whirlwind 24 hours trip so I could drink my face off and wander Brooklyn. It was a great neighborhood. |
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Post by bearfootzcontinued on Sept 28, 2018 9:17:41 GMT -6
I would start by splitting the fee per night: So $2000 total would be $500 a night. And then each night per person: So if 2 people occupy a night, $250 each. If 5 people occupy a night, $100 each. I probably wouldn't try to pay less for being on an airmattress, but that's because I'm a wuss. I would offer a discount for people that had to sleep on an air mattress or a floor. (unless they get drunk and pass out in the bathroom - that's their own choice).
That's how we've done it when our family has gone together for a condo. There was a per person charge for the beds and reduced charge if they were on a couch, sleeping bag, or air mattress. I don't think I'd want to pay the same if you had agreed to this trip thinking you were going to have a bed and now have to bring your own because invitations were extended. I doubt you'll make a fuss about it but I don't think it's out of line to suggest you get a break.
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Post by McBenny on Sept 28, 2018 9:18:11 GMT -6
I will not pay the same and sleep on an air mattress. Hell no.
I think it's low down and dirty to ask anyone to do so.
Call it what you want but you are sleeping on the fucking floor and paying the same.
This came up with my BFF and they took turns sleeping on the pull out to keep same price for all.
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Post by gussie on Sept 28, 2018 10:11:01 GMT -6
I would probably not make the two night air mattress person pay at all. If you come or not it won’t change the price for anyone else. This is probably not popular though.
I invited my mom to Disney World in lieu of MH a few years ago. We rented a suite and I didn’t make her pay anything because I would’ve got the same suite if she came or not.
I feel like you could get your own very nice hotel room with a bed for less that $1500 for two nights, I’d do that instead.
ETA. I read it like you were the two night air mattress person, but maybe that’s not right. My advise is the same either way. Maybe the two night people can all get a room, and the 4 night people can get a different room?
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Post by calendula on Sept 28, 2018 10:25:23 GMT -6
An argument against splitting it per person per night is that having the place for the entire 4 nights lets people come and go as they please. We are splitting a house rental with family next weekend, and although my family is the only one staying Friday night, everyone is paying equally because getting the house on Friday night meant that everyone else could come for breakfast on Saturday instead of 3 pm checkin or whatever. I can see doing it either way though. Kind of like brux says, if doing it one way would cause financial difficulty to someone I care about, that to me is more compelling than what is most fair. |
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Post by tatorhead328 on Sept 28, 2018 10:27:03 GMT -6
I would probably not make the two night air mattress person pay at all. If you come or not it won’t change the price for anyone else. This is probably not popular though. I invited my mom to Disney World in lieu of MH a few years ago. We rented a suite and I didn’t make her pay anything because I would’ve got the same suite if she came or not. I feel like you could get your own very nice hotel room with a bed for less that $1500 for two nights, I’d do that instead. ETA. I read it like you were the two night air mattress person, but maybe that’s not right. My advise is the same either way. Maybe the two night people can all get a room, and the 4 night people can get a different room? This reminds me of how my sister is driving herself and another bridesmaid (who she offered to drive) to my other sister's wedding 8 hours away and has already started talking about how the other bridesmaid better be offering up gas money. I'm glad I'm taking my own car. |
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Post by gussie on Sept 28, 2018 10:30:21 GMT -6
I would probably not make the two night air mattress person pay at all. If you come or not it won’t change the price for anyone else. This is probably not popular though. I invited my mom to Disney World in lieu of MH a few years ago. We rented a suite and I didn’t make her pay anything because I would’ve got the same suite if she came or not. I feel like you could get your own very nice hotel room with a bed for less that $1500 for two nights, I’d do that instead. ETA. I read it like you were the two night air mattress person, but maybe that’s not right. My advise is the same either way. Maybe the two night people can all get a room, and the 4 night people can get a different room? This reminds me of how my sister is driving herself and another bridesmaid (who she offered to drive) to my other sister's wedding 8 hours away and has already started talking about how the other bridesmaid better be offering up gas money. I'm glad I'm taking my own car. I feel like that’s the shit we did in high school. If you’re going that way anyway, who cares? I mean an offer to split gas money is nice, but I feel like I wouldn’t expect it. |
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Post by emma on Sept 28, 2018 10:37:44 GMT -6
I would not be ok paying the same for half the length of the stay on sleeping on an air mattress. But I also hate sharing a bed with a stranger (or anyone besides H really) so it could be preferable. To be honest this is some college level shenanigans and I'd prefer to get a hotel with everyone or find a place with enough beds
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 28, 2018 10:47:40 GMT -6
I will not pay the same and sleep on an air mattress. Hell no. I think it's low down and dirty to ask anyone to do so. Call it what you want but you are sleeping on the fucking floor and paying the same. This came up with my BFF and they took turns sleeping on the pull out to keep same price for all. I'm so glad you are here on this. Because yes, this. |
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 28, 2018 10:48:30 GMT -6
I would not be ok paying the same for half the length of the stay on sleeping on an air mattress. But I also hate sharing a bed with a stranger (or anyone besides H really) so it could be preferable. To be honest this is some college level shenanigans and I'd prefer to get a hotel with everyone or find a place with enough beds I agree. Just find a hotel that works for everyone, because then you can pay per room per night. Sounds like this girl is making it way too complicated. |
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Post by sweptaway on Sept 28, 2018 10:52:14 GMT -6
An argument against splitting it per person per night is that having the place for the entire 4 nights lets people come and go as they please. We are splitting a house rental with family next weekend, and although my family is the only one staying Friday night, everyone is paying equally because getting the house on Friday night meant that everyone else could come for breakfast on Saturday instead of 3 pm checkin or whatever. I can see doing it either way though. Kind of like brux says, if doing it one way would cause financial difficulty to someone I care about, that to me is more compelling than what is most fair. This is not at all the same scenario I think splitting per person per night is the most fair |
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Post by spicysalmonroll on Sept 28, 2018 11:06:00 GMT -6
I would not be ok paying the same for half the length of the stay on sleeping on an air mattress. But I also hate sharing a bed with a stranger (or anyone besides H really) so it could be preferable. To be honest this is some college level shenanigans and I'd prefer to get a hotel with everyone or find a place with enough beds OMG I completely agree. She is like that person will make 3 airline connections to save $150 and she's sending me links to studio apartments and saying we can bring air mattresses. I'm over here like dude, no. I'm 33 and I have a job, I'm perfectly capable of paying for a normal hotel room. She just wants cheap and it's like you're the one who arranged this meetup, maybe you shouldn't have if you can't afford it...? I do get the feeling she's trying to take advantage of having the others contribute so her extra night is less. |
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Post by soup on Sept 28, 2018 11:10:05 GMT -6
In my old age, I don't want to share a bed or a bathroom if I'm on vacation, so I'm the asshole who says, "Great! I'll book my own place nearby!"
I’m literally dealing with this right now for an upcoming bachelorette party wherein the people under 35 want to pile in a community space, and the married-with-kids 40+ folks are like, “Um. Fuck that.”
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Post by coconutbacon on Sept 28, 2018 11:24:32 GMT -6
Honestly, I also wouldn’t do an Airbnb at this point in NYC, because they’ve passed laws so that they are almost all illegal (unless you are staying in a place where the host will still be there, which... no thanks). The city has really been going hard after air bnb places, and I just wouldn’t want to take the chance that you book it, and then it isn’t even an option shortly before you arrive, or that you are thrown out in the middle of your stay.
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