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Post by Uncaripswife on Jul 24, 2018 16:58:18 GMT -6
How much your premiums are going up thanks to Trump ACA sabotage: I am sure they will just blame Obama and the minions will believe it. 😡 Yup
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jul 24, 2018 17:07:46 GMT -6
I am sure they will just blame Obama and the minions will believe it. 😡 I am STILL amazed at how many people blame Obama for the cost of premiums. And how they dont understand that more people paying into a pool equals lower premiums. Also how many people think that health insurance is shouldn't be required but happily pay mortgage and car insurance. Most people just have no idea how health insurance works, and the GOP did a great job of burying the important policy, cost shifting, and actuarial pieces of the law under libertarian, you can't force me, I don't want to pay for your birth control bullshit. Then went to work immediately undermining the cost shifting so poor and middle income people would have to pay more and would therefore hate the law. Andplusalso the Obama admin did a terrible job on the roll out and foolishly focused on the "you can keep your doctor" baloney instead of explaining in laypersons terms how critically important the Medicaid expansion was to keeping premiums down for low income people AND then made it worse by delaying the penalty for not getting coverage and then setting the penalty too low. Eight years later and I'm still pissed about this. Sorry for the rant.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 24, 2018 17:13:09 GMT -6
How much your premiums are going up thanks to Trump ACA sabotage: Omg ours is so so so bad. The idea of paying more for it than we already do makes me want to cry. And we don't have a choice about using it. We have kids with pre-existing conditions. We HAVE to go to the doctor.
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Post by byjove on Jul 24, 2018 17:18:58 GMT -6
How much your premiums are going up thanks to Trump ACA sabotage: Omg ours is so so so bad. The idea of paying more for it than we already do makes me want to cry. And we don't have a choice about using it. We have kids with pre-existing conditions. We HAVE to go to the doctor. Solidarity.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 24, 2018 17:57:47 GMT -6
I am STILL amazed at how many people blame Obama for the cost of premiums. And how they dont understand that more people paying into a pool equals lower premiums. Also how many people think that health insurance is shouldn't be required but happily pay mortgage and car insurance. Most people just have no idea how health insurance works, and the GOP did a great job of burying the important policy, cost shifting, and actuarial pieces of the law under libertarian, you can't force me, I don't want to pay for your birth control bullshit. Then went to work immediately undermining the cost shifting so poor and middle income people would have to pay more and would therefore hate the law. Andplusalso the Obama admin did a terrible job on the roll out and foolishly focused on the "you can keep your doctor" baloney instead of explaining in laypersons terms how critically important the Medicaid expansion was to keeping premiums down for low income people AND then made it worse by delaying the penalty for not getting coverage and then setting the penalty too low. Eight years later and I'm still pissed about this. Sorry for the rant. A. Freaking. Men.
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 24, 2018 18:25:40 GMT -6
I am STILL amazed at how many people blame Obama for the cost of premiums. And how they dont understand that more people paying into a pool equals lower premiums. Also how many people think that health insurance is shouldn't be required but happily pay mortgage and car insurance. Most people just have no idea how health insurance works, and the GOP did a great job of burying the important policy, cost shifting, and actuarial pieces of the law under libertarian, you can't force me, I don't want to pay for your birth control bullshit. Then went to work immediately undermining the cost shifting so poor and middle income people would have to pay more and would therefore hate the law. Andplusalso the Obama admin did a terrible job on the roll out and foolishly focused on the "you can keep your doctor" baloney instead of explaining in laypersons terms how critically important the Medicaid expansion was to keeping premiums down for low income people AND then made it worse by delaying the penalty for not getting coverage and then setting the penalty too low. Eight years later and I'm still pissed about this. Sorry for the rant. I get it. And agree but it boils down to more people paying in more money for claims and lower premiums which is the best average person explanation I use. If I get any further into explaining most people (I’m looking at you coworker) eyes glaze over.
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Post by cakewench on Jul 24, 2018 18:46:13 GMT -6
DOJ instructs attorneys to use “illegal alien” instead of “undocumented”, because they’re assholes.
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Post by sherminator on Jul 24, 2018 19:17:43 GMT -6
Today is my 20th year anniversary of state service. Ill be working till Im 90 though- cause health insurance. No , not bitter. I should be retiring in August. As of now the insurance coverage is worth it.
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Post by bugglesbee on Jul 24, 2018 19:22:46 GMT -6
DOJ instructs attorneys to use “illegal alien” instead of “undocumented”, because they’re assholes. And it’s just another day where I hate everything. I would really like to hope that most attorneys would ignore this instruction.
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Post by ladybrienne on Jul 24, 2018 19:27:16 GMT -6
CNN has the Cohen/Trump recording discussing payment to McDougal.
LOL forever.
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Post by ladybrienne on Jul 24, 2018 19:37:48 GMT -6
So I just listened to the tape and trump asks Cohen to pay with cash for the rights to the McDougal story to keep it quiet and Cohen responds no no no no no.
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Post by PandaWatch on Jul 24, 2018 19:48:24 GMT -6
Well certainly not the parade I don’t really believe the parade is going to happen. Please tell me I’m not the only one that thinks this. Is it just hope? I can’t fathom it. I never in a million years thought he’d meet with Kim Jong Un, so I think literally anything is possible. See also: babies in jail.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jul 24, 2018 19:51:49 GMT -6
DOJ instructs attorneys to use “illegal alien” instead of “undocumented”, because they’re assholes. And it’s just another day where I hate everything. I would really like to hope that most attorneys would ignore this instruction. They can try, but most likely there is a political appointee somewhere in the document review process redlining "undocumented" and at some level a political appointee has to clear documents going out.
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Post by PandaWatch on Jul 24, 2018 19:55:18 GMT -6
And it’s just another day where I hate everything. I would really like to hope that most attorneys would ignore this instruction. They can try, but most likely there is a political appointee somewhere in the document review process redlining "undocumented" and at some level a political appointee has to clear documents going out. I love when you talk federal agency procedure.
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Post by ladybrienne on Jul 24, 2018 19:59:34 GMT -6
Oh and it was Lanny Davis, Cohen’s lawyer, who gave CNN the tape.
My gosh.
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Post by goldenlove on Jul 24, 2018 20:13:33 GMT -6
Oh and it was Lanny Davis, Cohen’s lawyer, who gave CNN the tape. My gosh. I watched the interview with Cuomo and the lawyer and they were discussing who said cash and how Gulliani is wrong. But isn't the fact that it happened before the election and Trump obviously knew it was happening the bigger issue? Who cares who said cash?
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 24, 2018 21:16:06 GMT -6
Oh and it was Lanny Davis, Cohen’s lawyer, who gave CNN the tape. My gosh. I think this is the least damning of the tapes. I think Cohen saw writing and made himself a nice little stash. I would bet he’s got more somewhere too. Like what they found was ‘innocuous’ at least in 45s world.
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Post by ladybrienne on Jul 25, 2018 4:04:25 GMT -6
Oh and it was Lanny Davis, Cohen’s lawyer, who gave CNN the tape. My gosh. I watched the interview with Cuomo and the lawyer and they were discussing who said cash and how Gulliani is wrong. But isn't the fact that it happened before the election and Trump obviously knew it was happening the bigger issue? Who cares who said cash? I mean yeah it shows they lied their asses off to the public numerous times, including when Giuliani tried to play it down by saying that trump on the tape was above board wanting to pay with a check so as not to violate any laws. To me it doesn’t seem like the “gotcha” thing, but in the court of public opinion (excluding his base) it shows he has lied repeatedly. Honestly I think at this point it depends on what is on the other tapes he supposedly has. And I still am aghast at Lanny Davis being the one to hand it to CNN, just the whole thing is a dumpster fire.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 25, 2018 6:33:59 GMT -6
CNN has the Cohen/Trump recording discussing payment to McDougal. LOL forever. IFL whomever handed it to CNN of all outlets. Trolly troll trolllllllllll
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Post by dc2london on Jul 25, 2018 6:36:50 GMT -6
Guys.
Guys.
The White House edited the video of the Helsinki press conference and took out the question about Putin wanting Trump to win.
They. Edited. The. Official. Government. Record. Of. What. Happened.
THIS IS VERY SERIOUS.
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Post by athn64 on Jul 25, 2018 6:39:10 GMT -6
Guys. Guys. The White House edited the video of the Helsinki press conference and took out the question about Putin wanting Trump to win. They. Edited. The. Official. Government. Record. Of. What. Happened. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. Wtf. That is not ok.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 6:40:49 GMT -6
Guys. Guys. The White House edited the video of the Helsinki press conference and took out the question about Putin wanting Trump to win. They. Edited. The. Official. Government. Record. Of. What. Happened. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. WE NEED YOU MUELLER.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 25, 2018 6:41:01 GMT -6
Guys. Guys. The White House edited the video of the Helsinki press conference and took out the question about Putin wanting Trump to win. They. Edited. The. Official. Government. Record. Of. What. Happened. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. Wtf. That is not ok. It was bad enough when it was the written transcript. But they straight up went in and messed with the video. Selectively.
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Post by ladybrienne on Jul 25, 2018 6:44:42 GMT -6
Guys. Guys. The White House edited the video of the Helsinki press conference and took out the question about Putin wanting Trump to win. They. Edited. The. Official. Government. Record. Of. What. Happened. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. They edited the video AND the transcript.
Maddow covered it well on her show last night. This is Kremlin level shit. Freaking ridiculous.
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Post by ladybrienne on Jul 25, 2018 6:48:09 GMT -6
One of my biggest fears when Trump got elected is his blatant disregard for truth. His discrediting of the Russia investigation, our intelligence agencies, the press, etc etc. He is building a case to make any scenario, whether it be 2018 midterms or the 2020 election, to discredit the results should Dems win big and/or he loses.
That will continue to sew the seeds of division and reallllllly bad/scary times ahead. I don't know how we can even combat that. I really don't. I am scared he will hang on as long as humanly possible and not leave should he get voted out. I know that sounds tin foil hat ish, but fuck, I have no reason to believe anymore that he won't at least try.
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Post by enchanted on Jul 25, 2018 6:49:10 GMT -6
I was just coming here after seeing the headline.
1984 anyone?
I know that comparison might seem overused, but after the last few days, it feels apt.
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Post by cakewench on Jul 25, 2018 6:56:17 GMT -6
I know this is also a tired statement, but if this had been Obama or Hillary, impeachment proceedings would have started last week.
Serious question - what is the penalty for altering official government record? Like, they changed it - now what?
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Post by dc2london on Jul 25, 2018 7:04:45 GMT -6
One of my biggest fears when Trump got elected is his blatant disregard for truth. His discrediting of the Russia investigation, our intelligence agencies, the press, etc etc. He is building a case to make any scenario, whether it be 2018 midterms or the 2020 election, to discredit the results should Dems win big and/or he loses. That will continue to sew the seeds of division and reallllllly bad/scary times ahead. I don't know how we can even combat that. I really don't. I am scared he will hang on as long as humanly possible and not leave should he get voted out. I know that sounds tin foil hat ish, but fuck, I have no reason to believe anymore that he won't at least try. It's funny/infuriating that he's preemptively using Russia as an excuse for losses in the midterms when he likes to claim that the Mueller investigation is predicated entirely on Dems wanting "an excuse" for 2016.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 25, 2018 7:11:54 GMT -6
Lanny Davis told Axios that Cohen "has made a turn" and that "there are more tapes."
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Post by cakewench on Jul 25, 2018 7:15:43 GMT -6
Trump's Walk of Fame star destroyed:
Be prepared for a full day's coverage on Fox and repeated calls for civility.
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