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Post by enchanted on Jul 18, 2018 15:06:01 GMT -6
Lordy, there are tapes. Of Jr. talking to Alexander Torshin Cackling. A lot.
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Post by enchanted on Jul 18, 2018 15:09:11 GMT -6
why did he kiss his ring during the presser? look they had a lot of conversations. Russia has nuke power so we have to get along with them. Russia is not going to nuke us if we yell at them for fucking with our elections. JFC! And Democrats are supposedly the fearmongers? $&&@&$&$&@&@-#&$&@-@--#$-$&@&&@&$&-@
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Post by enchanted on Jul 18, 2018 15:13:52 GMT -6
Like, Putin is a narcissistic asshole with delusions of being czar, but he's not fucking stupid. Unless he somehow managed to take out every single one of our nukes when he attacked, he knows there would be devastating retaliation. And IF he was going to do that to his own country and the planet, it wouldn't be over being called out for fucking with our elections.
And what the motherfucking fuck to offering up our citizens to being questioned by Putin's goons?
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 18, 2018 15:22:19 GMT -6
why did he kiss his ring during the presser? look they had a lot of conversations. Russia has nuke power so we have to get along with them. Russia is not going to nuke us if we yell at them for fucking with our elections. JFC! And Democrats are supposedly the fearmongers? $&#&&#&@&$&$&@&@-#&$&@-@--#$-$&&#@&&#&@&#&$&#&-@&#&# We had a whole cold war thing. Remember? Perestroika, Regan, Gorbachev Billy Joel wrote it into a song. and the Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy I mean its not like Russia acquired WMDs yesterday. So yeah, we dont HAVE to be BFFs with them. There are decades of evidence to prove that. I would be/am WAY more worried about NK having the fire power they have. Putin is at least sane, he knows there is no coming back from a nuclear war, KJU not so much, he gives no shits.
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Post by cakewench on Jul 18, 2018 17:36:48 GMT -6
He just lies about everything. Even stuff that is easily checkable, like how many times QE2 has reviewers her troops or how long she’s actually reigned:
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Post by enchanted on Jul 18, 2018 17:40:53 GMT -6
Dafuq?
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 18, 2018 17:58:56 GMT -6
He just lies about everything. Even stuff that is easily checkable, like how many times QE2 has reviewers her troops or how long she’s actually reigned: Always knew those royals were lazy.
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Post by Dr. Cox on Jul 18, 2018 18:14:09 GMT -6
Like, Putin is a narcissistic asshole with delusions of being czar, but he's not fucking stupid. Unless he somehow managed to take out every single one of our nukes when he attacked, he knows there would be devastating retaliation. And IF he was going to do that to his own country and the planet, it wouldn't be over being called out for fucking with our elections. And what the motherfucking fuck to offering up our citizens to being questioned by Putin's goons? Just call us AmeriRussia. United States of Russia? Soviet Union 2.0?
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Jul 18, 2018 18:25:20 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 18, 2018 18:29:22 GMT -6
Yes thank the lord we didn’t elect a post menapausal woman. Who knows what would have happened. Like solid footing with allies. Access to affordable health care. Paid family leave. Millions saved on investigations. Oh wait I forgot Benghazi
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jul 18, 2018 18:37:53 GMT -6
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Post by cmb on Jul 18, 2018 18:42:37 GMT -6
From a scientific point, it really isn’t much at all, and I really wouldn’t worry about this with everything else going on. Research labs do not have concerning amounts of SNM that they would be transporting in personal vehicles. ETA- in reality, though, I would question the validity of this article. DOE is notorious for being meticulous in their tracking of this stuff, and they don’t skimp on the safety and security aspect
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Post by 100poppies on Jul 18, 2018 20:56:00 GMT -6
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Post by crimsonandclover on Jul 19, 2018 1:07:52 GMT -6
Running something by you guys:
I'm convinced that Putin's primary strategy is to get the US so focused on its internal divisions that it ignores what he's up to in the rest of the world. Ideal situation from his point of view? The US descends into chaos / civil strife / even civil war, vacating the world stage and leaving a power vacuum for Russia to step (back) into.
So based on that, I would actually think that it would be in Putin's best interest to support the *Democrats* in this election. Once they're in power, they'll move to impeach Trump, Trump's base will freak and call it purely partisan politics and we'll be in even deeper.
On the other hand, I'm sure he is absolutely LOVING having a little Trump puppet as POTUS. So I don't know. But I'm leaning toward him supporting Democrats for the chaos factor. And then I wonder if that were to be made clear to Republicans, if they would possibly change their tune about how important it is to stop Russia from interfering in our elections?
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Post by elle on Jul 19, 2018 1:27:20 GMT -6
Running something by you guys: I'm convinced that Putin's primary strategy is to get the US so focused on its internal divisions that it ignores what he's up to in the rest of the world. Ideal situation from his point of view? The US descends into chaos / civil strife / even civil war, vacating the world stage and leaving a power vacuum for Russia to step (back) into. So based on that, I would actually think that it would be in Putin's best interest to support the *Democrats* in this election. Once they're in power, they'll move to impeach Trump, Trump's base will freak and call it purely partisan politics and we'll be in even deeper. On the other hand, I'm sure he is absolutely LOVING having a little Trump puppet as POTUS. So I don't know. But I'm leaning toward him supporting Democrats for the chaos factor. And then I wonder if that were to be made clear to Republicans, if they would possibly change their tune about how important it is to stop Russia from interfering in our elections? Putin has absolutely set himself up in such a way that even if he loses, he wins. You're right that while having a Trump puppet is extremely beneficial to him, the chaos that will result from an impeachment will still be a boon. It's a win/win for him, pretty much no matter what.
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Post by blurnette989 on Jul 19, 2018 2:49:29 GMT -6
Running something by you guys: I'm convinced that Putin's primary strategy is to get the US so focused on its internal divisions that it ignores what he's up to in the rest of the world. Ideal situation from his point of view? The US descends into chaos / civil strife / even civil war, vacating the world stage and leaving a power vacuum for Russia to step (back) into. So based on that, I would actually think that it would be in Putin's best interest to support the *Democrats* in this election. Once they're in power, they'll move to impeach Trump, Trump's base will freak and call it purely partisan politics and we'll be in even deeper. On the other hand, I'm sure he is absolutely LOVING having a little Trump puppet as POTUS. So I don't know. But I'm leaning toward him supporting Democrats for the chaos factor. And then I wonder if that were to be made clear to Republicans, if they would possibly change their tune about how important it is to stop Russia from interfering in our elections? Putin has absolutely set himself up in such a way that even if he loses, he wins. You're right that while having a Trump puppet is extremely beneficial to him, the chaos that will result from an impeachment will still be a boon. It's a win/win for him, pretty much no matter what. Absolutely. I think Americans and Trump exceeded his expectations in sowing chaos once the seeds were planted.
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Post by Minerva on Jul 19, 2018 6:10:53 GMT -6
Running something by you guys: I'm convinced that Putin's primary strategy is to get the US so focused on its internal divisions that it ignores what he's up to in the rest of the world. Ideal situation from his point of view? The US descends into chaos / civil strife / even civil war, vacating the world stage and leaving a power vacuum for Russia to step (back) into. So based on that, I would actually think that it would be in Putin's best interest to support the *Democrats* in this election. Once they're in power, they'll move to impeach Trump, Trump's base will freak and call it purely partisan politics and we'll be in even deeper. On the other hand, I'm sure he is absolutely LOVING having a little Trump puppet as POTUS. So I don't know. But I'm leaning toward him supporting Democrats for the chaos factor. And then I wonder if that were to be made clear to Republicans, if they would possibly change their tune about how important it is to stop Russia from interfering in our elections? Putin has absolutely set himself up in such a way that even if he loses, he wins. You're right that while having a Trump puppet is extremely beneficial to him, the chaos that will result from an impeachment will still be a boon. It's a win/win for him, pretty much no matter what. Grrrr. I fucking hate letting Putin get a win. He’s such conniving scum. But also, as a nation, we are way to easily manipulated. ☹️
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Post by cakewench on Jul 19, 2018 7:32:40 GMT -6
Trump is using this morning's executive time to say the Russia summit was a success and the real enemy of the people is the media:
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Post by cougarette on Jul 19, 2018 7:38:44 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 19, 2018 8:04:16 GMT -6
Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell have called to subpoena the translator. Again I say bad idea. This doesnt pass the other shoe test for me. I dont want that to become the norm. I would be furious if they had done this to Obama. Its executive privilege.
I realize we are not in normal times but that doesnt mean we throw all norms out the window.
45 needs to sit with his cabinet and security advisors and debrief them and lets call THEM in front of congress
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Post by cakewench on Jul 19, 2018 8:14:26 GMT -6
Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell have called to subpoena the translator. Again I say bad idea. This doesnt pass the other shoe test for me. I dont want that to become the norm. I would be furious if they had done this to Obama. Its executive privilege. I realize we are not in normal times but that doesnt mean we throw all norms out the window. 45 needs to sit with his cabinet and security advisors and debrief them and lets call THEM in front of congress I agree, but at the same time I don't trust 45 to accurately debrief his own team.
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Post by cakewench on Jul 19, 2018 8:36:09 GMT -6
Larry Nassar's victims take the stage at ESPY Awards to accept the Arthur Ashe Courage Award:
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Post by cakewench on Jul 19, 2018 8:57:36 GMT -6
In a move that I'm sure shocks no one, Nunes used campaign funds for Celtics tickets, winery tours, and more:
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Post by cakewench on Jul 19, 2018 9:31:15 GMT -6
Manafort's trial is beginning Wednesday and Mueller has over 400 pieces of evidence:
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Post by JukEboX on Jul 19, 2018 10:34:28 GMT -6
My husband is at a talk tonight about all things Russia investigation as it relates to infosec. He's in cyber security, and I'm eagerly awaiting his updates on what he learned. Oh oh please PM me with the info
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Post by enchanted on Jul 19, 2018 10:40:10 GMT -6
Larry Nassar's victims take the stage at ESPY Awards to accept the Arthur Ashe Courage Award: This gave me chills. So many women and the fact that's not everyone is heartbreaking.
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Post by JukEboX on Jul 19, 2018 10:47:51 GMT -6
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Post by cakewench on Jul 19, 2018 12:10:48 GMT -6
Another day, another 24-hour news cycle of bashing Trump for even considering turning American citizens over to Putin for interrogation, another far too late walk-back.
How long before he walks back the walk-back?
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Post by elle on Jul 19, 2018 12:12:56 GMT -6
Bernie and Trump (and their supporters) are two sides of the same coin. I have said before that I wouldn't be at all shocked if Bernie's campaign had some Russian influence, given Tad Devine's past working relationship with Manafort.
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 19, 2018 12:17:45 GMT -6
Another day, another 24-hour news cycle of bashing Trump for even considering turning American citizens over to Putin for interrogation, another far too late walk-back. How long before he walks back the walk-back? She couldnt have said that 24 hours ago? she was asked twice and both times she sincerely answered that he was checking with his team. I'm honestly surprised somebody from State didnt come and tackle her to the ground screaming NOOOOO WE DONT DO THAT. which would have made that briefing entertaining.
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