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Post by shakinros on May 9, 2018 11:31:15 GMT -6
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Post by wildhoney on May 9, 2018 11:52:38 GMT -6
I was just coming here to ask this! Need updates.
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Post by Yogurt on May 9, 2018 13:22:27 GMT -6
I am in California and my appt is at 3:15pm! I will update!! Thanks for thinking of me.
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Post by Yogurt on May 9, 2018 17:43:02 GMT -6
Appointment was good. He is going to send me for my progesterone to be checked, but he said he thinks it's highly unlikely it will show an issue. He was very much like, look, I can't save a chemical pregnancy, it kind of is what it is. He doesn't want me to even test until I'm 7 days late, which we know won't happen, but that's because he thinks that if its a chemical again its not really viable and never was going to be viable so it doesn't even really count to him and he can't help me with it.
He was saying how much I have going for me in the fertility dept and that he believes I'll be pregnant within 3 months without any help. He also said that we will reevaluate in 6 months to see if I've had more chemicals, later miscarriages, whatever and then we will get as aggressive as I want to. He basically said to keep the faith and it kind of is what it is and he feels I probably don't have anything "wrong" with me, just bad luck with the chemicals.
So that's all good news.
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Post by Tlex on May 9, 2018 21:37:01 GMT -6
Yogurt great news but not productive news, I'm sorry there wasn't more. How are you feeling?
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Post by Yogurt on May 9, 2018 22:03:26 GMT -6
Yogurt great news but not productive news, I'm sorry there wasn't more. How are you feeling? I'm ok. I found the whole experience pretty depressing. I was looking at the other people there and imagining whatever they might be going through and how they have struggled. It just felt like such a sad place, even though I know many people there have happy outcomes eventually. It really felt pretty heavy just in general. That said, he seemed to think there is just nothing wrong and just keep on trucking and it will happen, so I mean, that's good. I don't want to need him, so if he thinks I don't, that's great. At least I'm getting the progesterone checked so I can at least know. And if I'm getting pregnant hopefully one will stick at some point.
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Post by Tlex on May 9, 2018 22:14:58 GMT -6
Makes sense, Yogurt. It's good to know you're in a good place for getting KU when the day arrives. As much as we're cozy and safe on this board I'd love to see you leave it in the dust!
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Post by obscureference on May 10, 2018 5:45:55 GMT -6
So he wasn’t interested in any of the blood work you’re having done? Did you say you weren’t interested in any treatment right now? I find all of this very odd. Maybe CA has terrible medical care or something. You are AMA, have been TTC for over a year, and have lost 2 pregnancies. “Just keep trying for 3 months” doesn’t sound like great advice unless you said you don’t want to start treatments yet. Like all first RE appointments should start with getting all of the testing set up and then you go from there. Did you read any reviews of this RE? I’m just, baffled.
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Post by Yogurt on May 10, 2018 7:05:09 GMT -6
So he wasn’t interested in any of the blood work you’re having done? Did you say you weren’t interested in any treatment right now? I find all of this very odd. Maybe CA has terrible medical care or something. You are AMA, have been TTC for over a year, and have lost 2 pregnancies. “Just keep trying for 3 months” doesn’t sound like great advice unless you said you don’t want to start treatments yet. Like all first RE appointments should start with getting all of the testing set up and then you go from there. Did you read any reviews of this RE? I’m just, baffled. I had all the bloodwork results (day 3 labs and some other stuff) with me and everything is normal, there are 10+ more tests the nurse practitioner wrote me an order for that I am going to get done and he will get those results, he wrote an order to check progesterone, he wrote an order to get some blood test on my husband too. He said he could do an xray or something (?) of my uterus to check for scarring, etc but he thought it was unlikely there would be anything to see there, but he is happy to rule it out. I was the one who said why don't we wait on that until we get all this blood work done because he seemed like he really didn't think it was going to show anything. But I guess I'll do that next, just to be sure. He feels that (and I understand this) the time I was trying between may-dec 2017 really doesn't count, due to the day 3 labs showing such high prolactin. I weaned in Dec and got pregnant that cycle, so I do feel that was the cause. So I've gotten pregnant twice in 4 months, but with what he called "the wrong egg". He just talked with me about all the loss statistics and how common cp's are and that he thinks early testing is kind of an issue because you would have just thought it was a weird late period. I'm not sure what all the testing is you are thinking he should be setting up. I did ask to wait on the scan until we get all the bloodwork done and reviewed. But no, I didn't read his reviews. There aren't a bunch of REs around here, and the only other one called me and spoke with me for about 30 min and he said basically the exact same stuff; how great it is I got pregnant twice, how common cp's are, he doesn't think there will be anything wrong with me etc. If all this is terrible medical care, I have no idea, I have nothing to compare it to. Eta: upon further googling, the other doctor isn't even an RE he is an endocrinologist that focuses on diabetes. Nice that he bothered to call me and discuss ttc for 30 min, lol. The only other places that come up for fertility are in Santa Barbara and Thousand oaks which are 90 miles+, so that's not really an option unless I really continue to struggle and get nowhere with this guy in town.
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Post by Yogurt on May 10, 2018 7:18:38 GMT -6
The doctor I saw has 11 reviews, all 5 or 1 star. The one stars still all said they got pregnant but didn't like his bedside manner or office staff.
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Post by sammysam on May 10, 2018 9:04:23 GMT -6
Yogurt if it makes you feel any better my gp and the ob I saw shortly after my MC both said the same thing. That the MMC and the hemorrhage were both flukes, that neither are likely to reoccur, that we will likely get pregnant again on our own but just have to be patient. My GP sent the referral immediately to the RE and sent me for a tonne of blood work. The OB said to give him a call as soon as we get pregnant again and he'd be happy to take us immediately. Sometimes we have to take good news for what it is and just be patient. Personally I'm hoping things work out before we get to the RE and I'm keeping treatment as a last option. I'm thinking everything sounds good! You got pregnant twice which is the silver lining here. Some of our eggs are just old. We need to keep going until we end up with a good one:)
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Post by obscureference on May 10, 2018 9:51:29 GMT -6
The usual testing includes amh and fsh. And the “X-ray thing” which is an HSG. I mean tons of women have results come back normal. Hence the diagnosis unexplained infertility. I didn’t realize you aren’t counting 7+ months due to BF.
I am just trying to relate my experience. I don’t think I would have gone to see an RE before I was ready for testing and treatments. Maybe that’s the difference? All of my tests came back normal as well, but I’m not willing to wait and see what happens and would like to stack the odds in my favor as much as possible and in a way I’m comfortable with, if that makes sense!
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Post by wildhoney on May 10, 2018 10:07:23 GMT -6
obscureference That's kind of where I was at too. Yes, I have had only two CPs. It could be a coincidence and it could be something else. I sleep better at night knowing my AMH/FSH show there is nothing wrong.
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Post by sammysam on May 10, 2018 10:20:01 GMT -6
obscureference Totally agree. It's why I waited until 7 cycles AL to even ask for a referral knowing by the time we got an appointment if we were still TTC unsuccessfully at that point I'd be ready for the big guns. Plus our provincial health care covers unlimited IUI cycles as well as 1 IVF cycle so long as you're under age 42 or 43. By July I'll be like BRING IT ON!
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Post by Yogurt on May 10, 2018 11:16:38 GMT -6
I'm 99% sure I had the AMH and FSH in September and both were normal, which would have been on the records this RE had to review, which is why I assume he didn't request it
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Post by Yogurt on May 10, 2018 11:17:41 GMT -6
The progesterone check was what I really wanted to rule out, so I feel satisfied in that regard.
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Post by wildhoney on May 10, 2018 11:42:36 GMT -6
I'm 99% sure I had the AMH and FSH IN September and both were normal, which would have been on the records this RE had to review, which is why I assume he didn't request it I didn't know you had already had it checked. That's good to know they came back normal. Hopefully your progesterone comes back normal too and your losses have just been rotten luck.
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Post by Yogurt on May 10, 2018 11:56:02 GMT -6
I'm 99% sure I had the AMH and FSH IN September and both were normal, which would have been on the records this RE had to review, which is why I assume he didn't request it I didn't know you had already had it checked. That's good to know they came back normal. Hopefully your progesterone comes back normal too and your losses have just been rotten luck. Oops, I guess I just had FSH, LH, DHEA, testosterone, Tsh, prolactin and vit D as a part of the day 3 labs. No AMH so maybe I will ask about that one. Oh, maybe that's on the list of a zillion things the NP put on my newest blood order from Tuesday. Eta: add FSH to the list
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Post by cmb on May 10, 2018 12:07:09 GMT -6
I didn't know you had already had it checked. That's good to know they came back normal. Hopefully your progesterone comes back normal too and your losses have just been rotten luck. Oops, I guess I just had LH, DHEA, testosterone, Tsh, prolactin and vit D as a part of the day 3 labs. No AMH so maybe I will ask about that one. Oh, maybe that's on the list of a zillion things the NP put on my newest blood order from Tuesday. The blood work just looks like the standard RPL panel
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Post by charliefox on May 10, 2018 22:23:37 GMT -6
I didn't know you had already had it checked. That's good to know they came back normal. Hopefully your progesterone comes back normal too and your losses have just been rotten luck. Oops, I guess I just had LH, DHEA, testosterone, Tsh, prolactin and vit D as a part of the day 3 labs. No AMH so maybe I will ask about that one. Oh, maybe that's on the list of a zillion things the NP put on my newest blood order from Tuesday. Yeah, AMH would be a good one (especially given your age), I'm sure it's something you could ask the NP or the RE and they would just do it for you. I'm glad you saw him, now if you do need him it's all set up. Sounds like he's being reasonable with the info you have and I respect that. I know there are some REs out there who are just looking to get people pregnant, he could have easily tried to start you on treatments, you probably would have gotten pregnant quickly and it would improve his stats (which are a big thing to an RE) but instead he gave you a reasonable course of action that doesn't get him any more money or wins.
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