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Post by dc2london on May 8, 2018 12:13:07 GMT -6
And there it is. Israel is posturing against Iran in Golan.
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Post by athn64 on May 8, 2018 12:16:48 GMT -6
Our moral duty to the taxpayer requires us to make our government leaner and more accountable. President Donald J. Trump REQUEST FOR RESCISSIONS: President Donald J. Trump is requesting that Congress rescind billions of dollars in excessive spending. So...maybe he should cancel his 30 million dollar military parade, all his golf trips, a useless wall.... Yeah right. He gets to spend moneyhowever he wants. But stop giving it to those poor people.
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Post by dc2london on May 8, 2018 12:19:14 GMT -6
Is he slurring again or is it a bad mic?
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Post by jkjacq on May 8, 2018 12:27:10 GMT -6
Is he slurring again or is it a bad mic? I think it was slur. Also Pompeo is on his way to NK
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Post by dc2london on May 8, 2018 12:35:16 GMT -6
Is he slurring again or is it a bad mic? I think it was slur. Also Pompeo is on his way to NK Yeah he was definitely slurring bc Andrea Mitchell and Savannah Guthrie sounded fine
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Post by blurnette989 on May 8, 2018 12:36:18 GMT -6
And there it is. Israel is posturing against Iran in Golan. I mean, knew it would happen, but still. ::Sigh:: Fuck Bibi.
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Post by cakewench on May 8, 2018 12:41:37 GMT -6
Our moral duty to the taxpayer requires us to make our government leaner and more accountable. President Donald J. Trump REQUEST FOR RESCISSIONS: President Donald J. Trump is requesting that Congress rescind billions of dollars in excessive spending. So...maybe he should cancel his 30 million dollar military parade, all his golf trips, a useless wall.... Aren't most of the cuts he's requesting coming out of CHIP? God I hate him. $30mil for this stupid parade could do so much more for this country.
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Post by dc2london on May 8, 2018 12:42:36 GMT -6
So when gas hits $6/gal is Trump then going to say we have to buy more Russian oil?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 12:42:50 GMT -6
Lol!! Oh. My. God. Make Hillary Clinton the new Attorney General of New York and let her be the one to charge Trump for all of his crimes! I just got so turned on... Yes, this gives me a boner.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 12:56:34 GMT -6
I don't know man, the way all of these right wingers are talking right now and the fact that John fucking Bolton is the National Security Adviser, I feel uneasy about pulling out of this deal. They sound very much like they did before we invaded Iraq.
The talk just sounds all too familiar. I don't like it.
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Post by jkjacq on May 8, 2018 13:06:36 GMT -6
I think it was slur. Also Pompeo is on his way to NK Yeah he was definitely slurring bc Andrea Mitchell and Savannah Guthrie sounded fine On the replay, he was trying to enunciate more so than usual. but 'cusp' came out 'cusss' etc.
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Post by enchanted on May 8, 2018 13:13:13 GMT -6
I don't know man, the way all of these right wingers are talking right now and the fact that John fucking Bolton is the National Security Adviser, I feel uneasy about pulling out of this deal. They sound very much like they did before we invaded Iraq. The talk just sounds all too familiar. I don't like it. Thank you. I thought I was going crazy, but it does sound so much like the lead up to invading Iraq.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 13:19:27 GMT -6
John Bolton's past comments on Iran alone are just downright stupid and unsupported.
First off, he was dead wrong on the Iran deal. He said that 1) they wouldn't be compliant and would cheat and 2) that other countries in the Middle East would obtain nuclear weapons because of it. Neither of these things have happened.
I don't understand their line of thinking on this, other than to undo something that was seen as a big win for the Obama Presidency. Most of our allies want us to stay in, there is a somewhat moderate rule in Iran right now, and the IAEA has reported that Iran has been compliant with the deal 9 times, the latest being in February, meaning they HAVEN'T been cheating at all. In spite of this the guy insists they have violated it or will.
This is the same shit he did in the lead up to Iraq. The same exact fuckshit.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on May 8, 2018 13:20:53 GMT -6
This is absolute bullshit and everything is awful.
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Post by jkjacq on May 8, 2018 13:26:22 GMT -6
So this doesnt really have anything to do with anything but I'm reading a book called Three Cups of Tea by Greg Mortensen. I'm about halfway thru, he was talking about building schools in Pakistan. After the first was built and he was scouting for a second, he was captured by very early Taliban. In his cell was a 70's Time magazine from right after the Iran Hostage stuff started. I had forgotten how long Iran held them (444 days?). They currently have 5 US citizens held hostage that we don't hear about. And we've lost all leverage there. We've broken our word.
but the rhetoric sounding like the shock and awe campaign is what reminded me of that.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 13:31:54 GMT -6
I feel like we're back in the runup to the Iraq war. It's the same fearmongering and bold pronouncements backed up with no facts. I do too. There is no evidence to support any of the claims they are making. Absolutely none.
There is absolutely no logical reason for this.
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Post by blurnette989 on May 8, 2018 13:42:13 GMT -6
I feel like we're back in the runup to the Iraq war. It's the same fearmongering and bold pronouncements backed up with no facts. I do too. There is no evidence to support any of the claims they are making. Absolutely none.
There is absolutely no logical reason for this.
Money. Military industrial complex. They do not care about us (average American) at all. They want empire and war and fundamentally believe those in the Middle East are less than. The modern Crusades.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 13:47:47 GMT -6
Barack Obama just released a statement
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Post by blurnette989 on May 8, 2018 13:49:22 GMT -6
And I should add, you are right there is no evidence to support their bullshit, @brienne. They just don't care about anything other than their own perceptions.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 13:55:53 GMT -6
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Post by byjove on May 8, 2018 14:03:46 GMT -6
His issuing such a strong statement so quickly after the announcement is a tad unusual for an ex-President, right?
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Post by byjove on May 8, 2018 14:04:49 GMT -6
"Note to future generations, if there are any: Don't elect the worst fool in the United States president."
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Post by enchanted on May 8, 2018 14:08:26 GMT -6
His issuing such a strong statement so quickly after the announcement is a tad unusual for an ex-President, right? By "tad" you mean a "big fucking deal"? It's definitely unusual, but these are unusual times.
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Post by byjove on May 8, 2018 14:09:42 GMT -6
His issuing such a strong statement so quickly after the announcement is a tad unusual for an ex-President, right? By "tad" you mean a "big fucking deal"? It's definitely unusual, but these are unusual times. yes
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Post by enchanted on May 8, 2018 14:10:54 GMT -6
This is all about undoing anything good Obama did and letting Bolton play war.
And it's going to get people killed.
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Post by jkjacq on May 8, 2018 14:14:25 GMT -6
His issuing such a strong statement so quickly after the announcement is a tad unusual for an ex-President, right? Yep and not just a tad unusual. It RARELY, if ever happens.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 14:16:17 GMT -6
His issuing such a strong statement so quickly after the announcement is a tad unusual for an ex-President, right? I think so.
Especially since he has been pretty quiet since Trump took office, which isn't unusual for past Presidents to do.
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Post by cakewench on May 8, 2018 14:24:13 GMT -6
This is all about undoing anything good Obama did and letting Bolton play war. And it's going to get people killed. And scariest of all, I bet his base is super fucking excited.
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Post by jkjacq on May 8, 2018 14:46:46 GMT -6
This is all about undoing anything good Obama did and letting Bolton play war. And it's going to get people killed. And scariest of all, I bet his base is super fucking excited. Probably because most of them couldn't get in to serve anyway so it 'doesn't affect them'. Except the rich ones, they'll make more money off it. i.e. Blackwater
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Post by jkjacq on May 8, 2018 14:48:06 GMT -6
Joe Bidens statement Today’s announcement that the United States will withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal is a profound mistake. It will isolate the United States from nearly every major world power. It will weaken our credibility and global leadership. It will allow Iran to garner international sympathy while doing nothing to reduce its harmful activities across the Middle East.
All it will likely accomplish is to put Iran back on the path to a nuclear weapon with no clear diplomatic way out. This wholly unnecessary crisis could ultimately put the safety of our country and our fellow citizens, including thousands of men and women in uniform serving across the Middle East, at risk by setting us back on a path to war with Iran.
We should continue to work with our allies and partners to counter Iran’s ability to subvert Israel and other partners in the region. However, the deal provided a long-term check on Iran’s pathways to a nuclear bomb, buying us critical time and space to address the regime’s other destabilizing activities.
The fact is that the agreement has been working to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. The International Atomic Energy Agency says so. Our allies in Europe say so. Even the Trump administration has consistently certified Iran’s compliance, a fact confirmed by now-Secretary of State Pompeo's testimony just last month.
Talk of a “better deal” is an illusion. It took years of sanctions pressure, painstaking diplomacy, and the full support of the international community to achieve that goal. We have none of that in place today.
President Trump’s decision will do the opposite of what he says he intends. It will free up Iran’s path to a nuclear weapon and ultimately force us into a binary choice between engaging in a new military conflict or living with a nuclear-armed adversary, both of which pose grave national security risks. And it puts us at odds with our closest European allies, who repeatedly urged the United States to honor the agreement.
As a result, President Trump has manufactured a crisis for his own political interests that puts us on a collision course not only with an adversary but also with our closest partners. It is just the latest example of how President Trump’s notion of “America First” will leave America more alone and less secure.
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