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Post by leatherpants on Apr 24, 2018 22:20:37 GMT -6
Team raf here. I think the black mailer is the guy from the other hotel that Petra dated or Louisa. These are my two guesses too but neither of them shock me much. I want something more dramatic
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Post by cdnfroggy on Apr 25, 2018 8:09:04 GMT -6
leatherpants, Rafael and Jane are way better than Michael and Jane. Michael is so...blah for Jane. Like, he's the safe, boring, lovable goofball whereas Rafael is passionate, he seems to light a fire under Jane for her writing and I think overall they are a better match than Michael. He's also grown so much as a person since the series started, I think in the long run they would be a better match.
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Post by cmb on Apr 25, 2018 8:12:54 GMT -6
I don’t think he’s back. I think it’s someone with a surgical face change- rose’s side business from prior seasons.
I’ve obviously watched too many soap operas to go straight to that option
That’s all I’ve got because I haven’t seen the last 7-8 episodes yet
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Post by leatherpants on Apr 25, 2018 8:55:09 GMT -6
leatherpants, Rafael and Jane are way better than Michael and Jane. Michael is so...blah for Jane. Like, he's the safe, boring, lovable goofball whereas Rafael is passionate, he seems to light a fire under Jane for her writing and I think overall they are a better match than Michael. He's also grown so much as a person since the series started, I think in the long run they would be a better match. His lovable goodball is exactly why I love him. I will agree on Raphael points though. He had grown and I do love his support for her writing.
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Post by leatherpants on Apr 25, 2018 8:55:42 GMT -6
I don’t think he’s back. I think it’s someone with a surgical face change- rose’s side business from prior seasons. I’ve obviously watched too many soap operas to go straight to that option That’s all I’ve got because I haven’t seen the last 7-8 episodes yet This will break my heart but you are probably right. Damn you Rose! !
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Post by cmb on Apr 25, 2018 9:18:39 GMT -6
I don’t think he’s back. I think it’s someone with a surgical face change- rose’s side business from prior seasons. I’ve obviously watched too many soap operas to go straight to that option That’s all I’ve got because I haven’t seen the last 7-8 episodes yet This will break my heart but you are probably right. Damn you Rose! ! Well, it is essentially a soap, after all... no one’s dead until you see a cold body in a casket, and even then, you never know!
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Post by unicornofthesea on Apr 25, 2018 13:04:30 GMT -6
Boo. I don't want this show to end. I always love Jane's clothes too.
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Post by gussie on Apr 25, 2018 13:18:49 GMT -6
Boo. I don't want this show to end. I always love Jane's clothes too. I just bought a dress that she was wearing in one of the last episodes. It came today!
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Post by unicornofthesea on Apr 25, 2018 14:32:24 GMT -6
Boo. I don't want this show to end. I always love Jane's clothes too. I just bought a dress that she was wearing in one of the last episodes. It came today! How do you find out where its from?! I feel like 90% of it is Old Navy?
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Post by gussie on Apr 25, 2018 14:35:34 GMT -6
I just bought a dress that she was wearing in one of the last episodes. It came today! How do you find out where its from?! I feel like 90% of it is Old Navy? This was Free People. I use wornontv.net.
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Post by gussie on Apr 25, 2018 14:36:06 GMT -6
I love Petra’s stuff too but it’s usually crazy expensive.
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Post by cdnfroggy on Apr 25, 2018 15:26:21 GMT -6
gussie, Petra has quickly become one of my favourites, I also find the actress so pretty
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Post by gussie on Apr 25, 2018 16:13:04 GMT -6
gussie , Petra has quickly become one of my favourites, I also find the actress so pretty I know, she's gorgeous.
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Post by unicornofthesea on Apr 25, 2018 18:56:09 GMT -6
I follow Rafael on IG... when he's super sappy and sweet on the show, that's how he seems IRL.
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Post by leatherpants on Apr 25, 2018 21:26:45 GMT -6
I love Petra. She has been one of my faves forever. I feel like this storyline about murdering her sister is a bit tired though.
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Post by buttmonkey on Apr 26, 2018 7:56:17 GMT -6
I don’t think he’s back. I think it’s someone with a surgical face change- rose’s side business from prior seasons. I’ve obviously watched too many soap operas to go straight to that option That’s all I’ve got because I haven’t seen the last 7-8 episodes yet This was my theory as well. Rose is messing with them.
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Post by vvvvvfee on Apr 27, 2018 11:04:44 GMT -6
shoot, i was looking for a JtV thread on monday and there wasn't one! no one i know IRL watches. i think amnesia is likely to be involved- there was so much talk of amnesia in that episode, and that's the only big telenovela trope that they haven't really used yet. so michael collapses, somehow they save him in the hospital but rose has him spirited away somewhere, and he wakes up not remembering anything? i suppose it could be a face swap... but what gets me is that obviously rafael is convinced that it's really him. he's so depressed in the previous scenes and is acting like he's never going to see jane again, that he thinks she is going to choose michael over him... so since he knows about rose and face-swapping, she must somehow have shown rafael proof that it's really michael, right? or, maybe they kidnapped him and held him prisoner all this time and he DOESN'T have amnesia and that's how rafael knows it's really him? the creator of the show has said that michael did not fake his own death for the purposes of going undercover. i don't know how he could do that to jane, anyway. i was team michael before, but i feel like rafael has grown and changed so much as a character over the seasons that now he's a better match with jane. i feel like they've earned the relationship they have. i feel awful for jane-- how could she possibly react? technically they're still married, right? and she would probably feel like she was betraying him if she didn't honor their vows. it would seem pretty cheap to kill off either rafael or michael... but i read another major character dies AND that the series ends with a wedding. i also can't think of how they can satisfactorily wrap up the series now (season 5 has been confirmed as the final season). i dunno, man!!
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Post by gussie on Apr 27, 2018 11:19:34 GMT -6
shoot, i was looking for a JtV thread on monday and there wasn't one! no one i know IRL watches. i think amnesia is likely to be involved- there was so much talk of amnesia in that episode, and that's the only big telenovela trope that they haven't really used yet. so michael collapses, somehow they save him in the hospital but rose has him spirited away somewhere, and he wakes up not remembering anything? i suppose it could be a face swap... but what gets me is that obviously rafael is convinced that it's really him. he's so depressed in the previous scenes and is acting like he's never going to see jane again, that he thinks she is going to choose michael over him... so since he knows about rose and face-swapping, she must somehow have shown rafael proof that it's really michael, right? or, maybe they kidnapped him and held him prisoner all this time and he DOESN'T have amnesia and that's how rafael knows it's really him? the creator of the show has said that michael did not fake his own death for the purposes of going undercover. i don't know how he could do that to jane, anyway. i was team michael before, but i feel like rafael has grown and changed so much as a character over the seasons that now he's a better match with jane. i feel like they've earned the relationship they have. i feel awful for jane-- how could she possibly react? technically they're still married, right? and she would probably feel like she was betraying him if she didn't honor their vows. it would seem pretty cheap to kill off either rafael or michael... but i read another major character dies AND that the series ends with a wedding. i also can't think of how they can satisfactorily wrap up the series now (season 5 has been confirmed as the final season). i dunno, man!! The marriage thing is a good point. He would've been declared dead, right? I would think that would end the marriage but I'm not sure.
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Post by vvvvvfee on Apr 27, 2018 11:27:19 GMT -6
gussie , yeah, i guess depending on what kind of funny business rose was up to, if he had an actual death certificate they wouldn't technically be married anymore. but i think jane would still feel like they were, particularly since it was confirmed that he was kept away from her by circumstances beyond his control (i.e., he didn't make the deliberate choice to go undercover)-- either kidnapping or amnesia. ETA: with the face-swapping technology they could have used someone else's body with a fake michael face on it while they spirited away the real michael.
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