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Post by robot on May 8, 2018 12:49:09 GMT -6
Ahhhh, Watson is adorable! He looks just like Cole. Chelsea's kids both look so much like their dads.
Not naming a baby for 2 months is weird as fuck.
Man, I wish I looked like Briana 2 months PP. I mean I definitely don't want to look like her but you know.
Kail calling someone else messy is cracking me up.
Everything with Jenelle and David is gross and awful and I don't watch to touch it with 10 foot pole.
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Post by lolacachia on May 8, 2018 13:47:13 GMT -6
I'm worried for Kaiser. Did Nathan's mom end up getting custody?
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Post by shan-ah-doo on May 8, 2018 13:56:21 GMT -6
I mean, Briana would be upset if one of the girls started dating one of her baby daddies. Kail eats crackers for me now but I can't say I wouldn't be upset also. Def against girl code, at least give her the benefit of you talking to her first if she has been somewhat of a friend I watched the aftershow and she said she was mad because Javi was still hitting her up and saying he wanted to get back together while trying with Brianna.
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Post by icedcoffee on May 8, 2018 14:10:22 GMT -6
I mean, Briana would be upset if one of the girls started dating one of her baby daddies. Kail eats crackers for me now but I can't say I wouldn't be upset also. Def against girl code, at least give her the benefit of you talking to her first if she has been somewhat of a friend I watched the aftershow and she said she was mad because Javi was still hitting her up and saying he wanted to get back together while trying with Brianna. I watched that afterwards too!!!
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Post by yellowwallpaper on May 8, 2018 14:38:42 GMT -6
I was hoping this season would start with what happened at the reunion. Of course they are probably going to draw that out.
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Post by babybean on May 8, 2018 14:52:26 GMT -6
Kail wants Javi to want her but doesn’t want to be with him, and doesn’t want him moving on.
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Post by angelashly on May 8, 2018 14:55:43 GMT -6
Kail wants Javi to want her but doesn’t want to be with him, and doesn’t want him moving on. so she can yell at him to move on
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Post by unicornofthesea on May 8, 2018 14:56:38 GMT -6
I haven't watched but I'd bet money Kail had a name, she just wanted people to talk about her by not naming him for so long🙄
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Post by yellowwallpaper on May 8, 2018 14:59:22 GMT -6
Kail wants Javi to want her but doesn’t want to be with him, and doesn’t want him moving on. Accurate!
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 16:49:43 GMT -6
I haven't watched but I'd bet money Kail had a name, she just wanted people to talk about her by not naming him for so long🙄 That's my opinion as well.
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Post by honda on May 8, 2018 17:07:41 GMT -6
Janelle's comments have me cracking up. Her voiceover that says " messed up stuff" and then "hot hot heat". Yeah you don't leave Kaiser outside 🙄
Previews look good for this season.
I've never seen Cole get so mad! Adam is a piece of poooooop.
Not surprised Leah and Jeremy hooked up. They are not good together, but I'm guessing the sex is good. 🤣 Isn't he with someone else now?
Brianna is messy and I really think her and Javi just wanted the drama.
Kail.....meh nothing noteworthy.
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Post by joy on May 8, 2018 17:32:51 GMT -6
This episode is not on demand or my MTV app.
I have the frustration.
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Post by unicornofthesea on May 8, 2018 17:56:26 GMT -6
This episode is not on demand or my MTV app. I have the frustration. It needs to get there quick! I want to watch tonight!!
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2018 18:00:57 GMT -6
Jenelle looks rough.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 18:13:50 GMT -6
I'm just watching now. Jenelle's comment about Nathan's mom "now I look at you like I look at my mom" killed me. It doesn't occur to her that normal adults who are properly raising kids don't have grandparents who are trying to get custody for their safety.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 18:14:24 GMT -6
Her hair looked really good in the first scene at least.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 18:15:21 GMT -6
Why was Jenelle talking up the grass on the land? The front of her house looks like garbage and has no grass.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 18:20:32 GMT -6
Nathan may be a violent POS, but you can tell he loves his kids. When he talks about Kaiser it is night and day from how Jenelle talks.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 18:24:53 GMT -6
I'm worried for Kaiser. Did Nathan's mom end up getting custody? No. Her husband got really sick or had custody and they weren't able.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 18:39:31 GMT -6
Jenelle thinks Barb is behind Nathan's mom's allegations because she is mad about not being invited to the wedding? It is 100% the kind of thing Jenelle would do to get someone in legal trouble because of a wedding invite, but the woman who just retired from a career at Walmart and now has to raise a child she begged to be placed for adoption when she should be enjoying grandmother time isn't who seems like the villain in this.
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Post by lolacachia on May 8, 2018 18:53:45 GMT -6
I'm worried for Kaiser. Did Nathan's mom end up getting custody? No. Her husband got really sick or had custody and they weren't able. This makes me sad. The whole story about the diaper and the spanking was making my skin crawl. Fuck.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 18:59:59 GMT -6
No. Her husband got really sick or had custody and they weren't able. This makes me sad. The whole story about the diaper and the spanking was making my skin crawl. Fuck. I suspect she was told by her lawyers she didn't have much of a case and since Jenelle has been the primary caregiver and has two adults in the home who aren't frail she looks more stable than she is. With Jace she was never the primary caregiver and she had different criteria she never met to gain custody. I'm pretty sure all the allegations are true but for her to lose custody is a lot harder than for Barb to keep it since Jenelle has never actually abandoned or signed over her rights to K.
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Post by icedcoffee on May 8, 2018 19:09:39 GMT -6
I in no way say this to mean that anyone should not try to help Kaiser, but I feel like if they do lose Kaiser they will just have more kids. Jenelle just fundamentally doesn't fucking get it and will continue to make excuses for it all. I don't even know what it will take to get her to see that none of this is fucking normal in any way
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Post by lolacachia on May 8, 2018 19:13:09 GMT -6
I in no way say this to mean that anyone should not try to help Kaiser, but I feel like if they do lose Kaiser they will just have more kids. Jenelle just fundamentally doesn't fucking get it and will continue to make excuses for it all. I don't even know what it will take to get her to see that none of this is fucking normal in any way I can tell you if my significant other tried to lay a hand on my child/his stepchild we would be done so fast. Janelle is classic case of desperate to keep any man.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 19:16:38 GMT -6
I in no way say this to mean that anyone should not try to help Kaiser, but I feel like if they do lose Kaiser they will just have more kids. Jenelle just fundamentally doesn't fucking get it and will continue to make excuses for it all. I don't even know what it will take to get her to see that none of this is fucking normal in any way Honestly, now that David has visitation of his son I am sort of shocked he doesn't suggest to Jenelle K spend more time with his father. David doesn't like the kid and David already has the kid that keeps him in support/Teen Mom money and I don't see him in it with Jenelle long enough to want another. Jenelle will get pregnant with the next Dick Of The Month's baby and will keep it if that relationship doesn't sour before it is born.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 19:20:15 GMT -6
I in no way say this to mean that anyone should not try to help Kaiser, but I feel like if they do lose Kaiser they will just have more kids. Jenelle just fundamentally doesn't fucking get it and will continue to make excuses for it all. I don't even know what it will take to get her to see that none of this is fucking normal in any way I can tell you if my significant other tried to lay a hand on my child/his stepchild we would be done so fast. Janelle is classic case of desperate to keep any man. That is because you are a normal parent. Jenelle had a father who abused her mother and pretty much every relationship J has been in (except Kiefer) has been violent. She has done nothing to break the cycle. I think David is the first to hurt Jenelle's kids and I'm pretty sure he is abusive to her and she is scared of him which is why she allows it.
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Post by icedcoffee on May 8, 2018 19:21:12 GMT -6
I in no way say this to mean that anyone should not try to help Kaiser, but I feel like if they do lose Kaiser they will just have more kids. Jenelle just fundamentally doesn't fucking get it and will continue to make excuses for it all. I don't even know what it will take to get her to see that none of this is fucking normal in any way Honestly, now that David has visitation of his son I am sort of shocked he doesn't suggest to Jenelle K spend more time with his father. David doesn't like the kid and David already has the kid that keeps him in support/Teen Mom money and I don't see him in it with Jenelle long enough to want another. Jenelle will get pregnant with the next Dick Of The Month's baby and will keep it if that relationship doesn't sour before it is born. This is true and I've thought of this as well. He really has never liked Kaiser. I always assumed it was more of a control thing, like haha look Nathan I can even keep your son away type thing.
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Post by icedcoffee on May 8, 2018 19:22:29 GMT -6
I can tell you if my significant other tried to lay a hand on my child/his stepchild we would be done so fast. Janelle is classic case of desperate to keep any man. That is because you are a normal parent. Jenelle had a father who abused her mother and pretty much every relationship J has been in (except Kiefer) has been violent. She has done nothing to break the cycle. I think David is the first to hurt Jenelle's kids and I'm pretty sure he is abusive to her and she is scared of him which is why she allows it. The way she talked about him being outside and not knowing she was upset and what happened yet made me feel for her honestly. You can tell she is scared or at the very least needs his constant approval
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 19:32:59 GMT -6
Honestly, now that David has visitation of his son I am sort of shocked he doesn't suggest to Jenelle K spend more time with his father. David doesn't like the kid and David already has the kid that keeps him in support/Teen Mom money and I don't see him in it with Jenelle long enough to want another. Jenelle will get pregnant with the next Dick Of The Month's baby and will keep it if that relationship doesn't sour before it is born. This is true and I've thought of this as well. He really has never liked Kaiser. I always assumed it was more of a control thing, like haha look Nathan I can even keep your son away type thing. He doesn't like Jace either. I think J has been around enough of Jenelle's boyfriends to be terrified of them yelling and he shuts down and goes quiet and doesn't act out around them. Both Nathan and David claimed he didn't act out around them. K is too little to have learned this skill but he has always been aggressive and calling them little bitches etc on film.
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Post by Jesslfar on May 8, 2018 19:39:17 GMT -6
That is because you are a normal parent. Jenelle had a father who abused her mother and pretty much every relationship J has been in (except Kiefer) has been violent. She has done nothing to break the cycle. I think David is the first to hurt Jenelle's kids and I'm pretty sure he is abusive to her and she is scared of him which is why she allows it. The way she talked about him being outside and not knowing she was upset and what happened yet made me feel for her honestly. You can tell she is scared or at the very least needs his constant approval That time they told MTV they wouldn't film and the next day when they asked why they were fighting and David denied it and she looked scared cemented it for me.
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