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Post by seamonster on Apr 3, 2018 10:31:03 GMT -6
If you're flying with the kids, you can use buckling in the carseat as a pretense for getting the seatbelt extender. They are really discrete about it anyway. You can also put the armrests up (bulkhead is cramped and the armrest goes to the seat bottom so i wouldn't sit there).
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Post by truffleshuffle on Apr 3, 2018 10:37:14 GMT -6
I haven't flown southwest, but on all other airlines they let people traveling with small children or those who may need extra time board first, you can go on at this time and ask for the extender so there is less people and it is even more discreet.
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Post by honda on Apr 3, 2018 10:45:52 GMT -6
I haven't flown southwest, but on all other airlines they let people traveling with small children or those who may need extra time board first, you can go on at this time and ask for the extender so there is less people and it is even more discreet. Perfect! Thanks! |
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Post by aprilz81 on Apr 3, 2018 13:25:32 GMT -6
Really? I fly all the time and I've never heard them ask for arm rests to be down, just carry-on bags stowed and tray tables up. Memorized from my FA days: “Please make sure seatbacks and tray tables are in their upright and locked position and arm rests are down, make sure all carry on items are stowed and seatbelts are securely fastened” Yes, FAA regs state they must be down for t/o and ldg. It is so there is a standard position in case of an emergency and an evacuation is required. I'm not calling you a liar, but I've never heard that said. I've only heard "“Please make sure seatbacks and tray tables are in their upright and locked position, make sure all carry on items are stowed and seatbelts are securely fastened”. (seriously, no sarcasm, I'm not calling you a liar). I travelled for work somewhat frequently (8-10 times a year) from 2006-2011ish and usually fly at least once a year since then. I'm not sure when you stopped being a FA but I wonder if something changed? |
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Post by brux on Apr 3, 2018 13:35:55 GMT -6
I think both aprilz81 and FlightView are right. I've heard countless times that the arm rests on the aisles need to be down for landing, but I've never had a FA tell me to put the middle seat arm rests down. |
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Post by brux on Apr 3, 2018 13:38:04 GMT -6
Though I'm laughing pretty hard that flying 8-10 times a year from 2006-2011 and once a year over the last 7 years qualifies anyone as a expert on flight protocol.
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Post by aprilz81 on Apr 3, 2018 14:00:59 GMT -6
Though I'm laughing pretty hard that flying 8-10 times a year from 2006-2011 and once a year over the last 7 years qualifies anyone as a expert on flight protocol. I never said I was an expert, just saying I've flown enough in recent history to be pretty familiar with the pre-flight FA instructions. I was just stating surprise that the arm rests were supposed to be down during takeoff and landing because I've never heard the FAs on the flights I've been on give those instructions. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 14:39:30 GMT -6
2269. PROTRUDING PASSENGER SEAT ARMRESTS. Inspection of the Hardman Model 9500 and other passenger seats installed on several aircraft, disclosed that the armrest in the upright or stowed position can protrude approximately 45 degrees aft the seat back. In the event of an emergency evacuation, protruding armrests could present an obstacle between seat passageways, obstructing emergency exit access. Air Carriers should emphasize to flight attendants that prior to takeoff and landing they verify that the armrests are in the normal forward/down position in order to ensure that they do not obstruct the passageway between the row of seats leading from the aisle to the emergency exit.
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Post by joy on Apr 3, 2018 15:16:31 GMT -6
I also can’t recall the arm rest thing, but now I’m going to pay attention. Seats, tray tables, seatbelt, carry ons, flight attendants prepare for landing, etc. cross check and stand by for all call!
Arm rests always end up down so I got the memo somewhere.
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Post by anastasia on Apr 3, 2018 16:06:22 GMT -6
Only this place would be having this argument rn.
FTR - I know I've left the armrest up between me and ds3 during take off and landings.
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Post by aprilz81 on Apr 3, 2018 16:09:46 GMT -6
Which airline did you fly on aprilz81 airlines are not created equally when it comes to safety. Southwest, United, US Airways (pre-merger) and American possibly a Jet Blue flight in there as well. I lived in Charlotte for a good chunk of my "frequent flier" days so primarily US Airways then but usually Southwest when I fly now. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 16:11:59 GMT -6
Only this place would be having this argument rn. FTR - I know I've left the armrest up between me and ds3 during take off and landings..... ... you've seen the 400+ page legging thread, yes? |
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Post by anastasia on Apr 3, 2018 17:05:22 GMT -6
Only this place would be having this argument rn. FTR - I know I've left the armrest up between me and ds3 during take off and landings..... ... you've seen the 400+ page legging thread, yes? The leggings thread is gold, pure gold. |
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Post by wesleycrusher on Apr 3, 2018 18:08:29 GMT -6
I just flew Southwest Sunday night and the arm rest was definitely up between DS and DD.
It was also my first experience with a somewhat unruly passenger.
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Post by honda on Apr 3, 2018 20:26:31 GMT -6
I love you guys 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 20:44:49 GMT -6
I just flew Southwest Sunday night and the arm rest was definitely up between DS and DD. It was also my first experience with a somewhat unruly passenger. Go on.... |
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Post by wesleycrusher on Apr 3, 2018 21:12:31 GMT -6
I just flew Southwest Sunday night and the arm rest was definitely up between DS and DD. It was also my first experience with a somewhat unruly passenger. Go on.... Nothing too exciting. During boarding a man traveling with his teenage daughter approached a woman sitting on the plane and asked to sit in the 2 open seats next to her. The woman said no, she was saving them for her daughters. I didn't hear what the man said, but it was along the lines of you really can't do that, Southwest has open seating and those who board first have first preference. (the woman paid for priority boarding only for herself to save the whole family seats). The woman went off and began berating the man. The man and his daughter calmly moved to different seats and sat down, but she could not let it go. Kept glaring at him, discussing it loudly. It got to the point where she was making the man's teenage daughter very upset, and the flight attendant had to come over and ask her to stop. She then tried to argue with the flight attendant, and cursed at her when she walked away. So Southwest ground control had to come onto the plane and talk to the woman. I don't want to say I feel sorry for her husband and kids, but I really did. Her behavior was just plain embarrassing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 21:45:26 GMT -6
Nothing too exciting. During boarding a man traveling with his teenage daughter approached a woman sitting on the plane and asked to sit in the 2 open seats next to her. The woman said no, she was saving them for her daughters. I didn't hear what the man said, but it was along the lines of you really can't do that, Southwest has open seating and those who board first have first preference. (the woman paid for priority boarding only for herself to save the whole family seats). The woman went off and began berating the man. The man and his daughter calmly moved to different seats and sat down, but she could not let it go. Kept glaring at him, discussing it loudly. It got to the point where she was making the man's teenage daughter very upset, and the flight attendant had to come over and ask her to stop. She then tried to argue with the flight attendant, and cursed at her when she walked away. So Southwest ground control had to come onto the plane and talk to the woman. I don't want to say I feel sorry for her husband and kids, but I really did. Her behavior was just plain embarrassing. Yikes. People get so worked up on planes. I was the subject of some serious airplane rage once and the flight attendant had to move my seat away from the woman harassing me. Also my boss had someone get chippy with him when he wouldn’t trade his aisle seat for a middle seat so the guy could sit next to his wife. |
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Post by adelbert on Apr 4, 2018 5:42:41 GMT -6
Arm rests are supposed to be down but some flight attendants will ignore it if they aren't.
I probably wouldn't switch seats so that two grown ups can sit next to each other especially not couples (anyone can survive a few hours not sitting together) but I would if it meant a parent could sit next to their young child.
But I'm almost always with my own kids so don't have this situation and then I reserve so that I can be assured we are sitting together.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 4, 2018 5:48:33 GMT -6
Arm rests are supposed to be down but some flight attendants will ignore it if they aren't. I probably wouldn't switch seats so that two grown ups can sit next to each other especially not couples (anyone can survive a few hours not sitting together) but I would if it meant a parent could sit next to their young child. But I'm almost always with my own kids so don't have this situation and then I reserve so that I can be assured we are sitting together. I am the sort of person who would probably switch for anyone who asked. But I recognize that that isn’t normal, and you can’t exoect it. |
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Post by Lormor on Apr 4, 2018 6:27:18 GMT -6
Arm rests are supposed to be down but some flight attendants will ignore it if they aren't. I probably wouldn't switch seats so that two grown ups can sit next to each other especially not couples (anyone can survive a few hours not sitting together) but I would if it meant a parent could sit next to their young child. But I'm almost always with my own kids so don't have this situation and then I reserve so that I can be assured we are sitting together. I am the sort of person who would probably switch for anyone who asked. But I recognize that that isn’t normal, and you can’t exoect it. I wouldn’t switch for a “lesser” seat eg aisle to middle, but wouldn’t mind moving back or forwards a couple of rows. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 6:37:26 GMT -6
I am the sort of person who would probably switch for anyone who asked. But I recognize that that isn’t normal, and you can’t exoect it. I wouldn’t switch for a “lesser” seat eg aisle to middle, but wouldn’t mind moving back or forwards a couple of rows. This is me. I'd only switch to a lesser seat if the airline comps me something. Especially on something like SW where I pay extra for priority boarding to ensure I get my coveted aisle seat. |
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Post by gussie on Apr 4, 2018 7:46:01 GMT -6
Somehow, Delta always separates us from one of our kids. Thank god for nice people switching seats with us. Or I suppose they could deal with my kids annoying them for snacks and an iPad for the duration of the flight.
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Post by charlotte on Apr 4, 2018 7:57:40 GMT -6
Or I suppose they could deal with my kids annoying them for snacks and an iPad for the duration of the flight. Would pay extra for this. |
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Post by linny on Apr 4, 2018 8:19:12 GMT -6
honda , I was around a size 22 and 23weeks pregnant the last time I flew. I was able to get by without an extender, though it was close. On the flight out I was assigned the last seat on the plane, which was also one of the larger 2 to a row instead of 3 seats. It was very comfortable even with a bump and holding W. The flight home I was in the smaller, regular seat between H (fairly large guy) and my 18 year old cousin (he's average size). It was tight, but doable. The guy on the flight down mentioned he always gets those nicer seats, it was like $20 more. I'd totally pay for those if we fly again. I hope you have an amazing trip!
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Post by seamonster on Apr 4, 2018 11:14:54 GMT -6
Arm rests are supposed to be down but some flight attendants will ignore it if they aren't. I probably wouldn't switch seats so that two grown ups can sit next to each other especially not couples (anyone can survive a few hours not sitting together) but I would if it meant a parent could sit next to their young child. But I'm almost always with my own kids so don't have this situation and then I reserve so that I can be assured we are sitting together. I won't switch for adults to sit together unless it's a better seat. I'll switch for parents to sit next to their kids. When traveling with DS I have encountered only single seats being available -- the FA asked for a volunteer to give up their window seat so we could put in the carseat and have one of us in the middle. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 16:14:59 GMT -6
#teamwindowseat
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 20:05:25 GMT -6
On short flights, I don’t care where I sit. If someone wants to change with me, sure, no prob. But they best be buying me a drink as thanks - has only happened a handful times. I have RBF, so apparently people just don’t ask often.
On longer flights... questionable. Depends on what seat I’ll end up in and how the person asks (and if I think they’re an ass or not). Usually not an issue since for longer flights it’s for work and I’m paying for an upgraded seat, so switch requests are rare.
I’d always switch for kids, but it hasn’t actually ever come up.
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