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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 12, 2018 8:20:15 GMT -6
We kind of do this in Randoms and MOTN and can still do that but I wanted to create a thread where we can ask sleep questions, look for tips, commiserate, vent, share good sleep etc.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 12, 2018 8:24:51 GMT -6
I’ll start.
My baby is capable of good night sleep. We’ve had some award winning nights but lately, she has devolved into a bad day and night pattern.
Night - 1 good stretch starting around 10 (3-4.5 hours) up for about an hour diapering and nursing etc, back to sleep then up every 30 mins -1.5 hours (skewing more towards the 30 mins) throughout the night. Days are only sleep in arms pretty much.
She must be very overtired. For example it’s a little after 8 am here and she has slept 4 hours total since midnight.
Anyone dealing w something similar currently or maybe navigated this w an older child? I’ll try anything.
It wouldn’t be so bad if I could catch up during the day but this is not possible bc she won’t sleep longer than 40-50 minutes not in my arms.
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Post by benandjerrys on Feb 12, 2018 9:33:12 GMT -6
I think you've got to get her sleeping more during the day. Will she sleep in a wrap on you?
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Post by benandjerrys on Feb 12, 2018 9:34:08 GMT -6
Where is she sleeping? Is she swaddled? With what?
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Post by sunfrogger on Feb 12, 2018 10:12:05 GMT -6
I literally can't recommend the love 2sleep swaddle up blanket enough. I need to go get a smaller one for this little lady.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 12, 2018 10:25:59 GMT -6
Where is she sleeping? Is she swaddled? With what? She’s swaddled very tightly and not breaking out. We try to get her to sleep in the bouncer or swing (not on, that seems to agitate her) but she will only sleep small amounts, never over 60 minutes. She will sleep in my arms but even so she squirms, cries out, etc. I’m wondering if it’s crib time. She refuses a paci.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 12, 2018 10:27:31 GMT -6
I think you've got to get her sleeping more during the day. Will she sleep in a wrap on you? I have a solly wrap. I’m not a confident baby wearer but it’s probably time to get over it. I think you are right, she needs a reset on the day sleep to get her out of the over tired cycle.
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Post by benandjerrys on Feb 12, 2018 11:02:54 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 11:39:53 GMT -6
My only tips (general, not directed at anyone) are to establish night and day and then work on establishing a routine. During the day I am sure to have lights on, windows open, TV on, I don't take care to be quiet while doing chores, etc. I don't put my kids into a dark room to nap until 6 months+. During the night obviously dim light and minimal noise (although we do use white noise).
Our routine pretty much just consists of a bath and trying to get her to sleep at a consistent time at night (right now we aim for 7 pm).
The DockATot has been a godsend for us for daytime sleep, right now at night she is just sleeping in the auto rock RNP. The last few nights we have gotten 5-6 hour stretches but that is a rare unicorn baby occurence. By 6 months only 10-20% of infants are sleeping through the night, and the definition of "sleeping through the night" is a 5 hour stretch.
This will only last a short while. That is my mantra :-)
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 12, 2018 12:00:12 GMT -6
benandjerrys I do a homemade version of the miracle! I make sure to hv her out of it for a certain amount of time each day bc I also feel like it’s a straight jacket!
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Post by teraiin on Feb 12, 2018 21:44:03 GMT -6
What does everyone think of gripe water?
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Post by ajetter on Feb 13, 2018 2:39:51 GMT -6
What does everyone think of gripe water? We used it with our first and couldn’t necessarily tell if it was doing anything, so we didn’t use it with our others. My current pedi said it could help with hiccups which DD4 gets all the time, but I haven’t tried it.
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Post by ajetter on Feb 13, 2018 2:46:16 GMT -6
My biggest sleep concern is that just like my other kids, DD4 does not at all fall asleep on her own. I’ve tried putting her down drowsy but awake, and it always ends in crying. She is a very alert baby and it takes a lot to get her drowsy anyway. We were with my friend whose baby is 5 days younger than mine, and as long as he was being held he’d just slump in and pass out. DD4 lifts her head up and intently searches the room or locks eyes with you and stares. All my friends were baffled.
Also at the moment she won’t stay asleep without being held during most of the day. Even the RnP doesn’t cut it. I wouldn’t care if I didn’t have three other kids to take care of.
And I hate that she’ll only sleep in the RnP, but if I lay her flat she spits up so so much more.
You’d think by the fourth child, who has similar issues as the first three, I’d have this figured out. But alas, I do not. It’s maddening. Just reminding myself that a year from now life won’t look like this.
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Post by benandjerrys on Feb 13, 2018 4:32:40 GMT -6
ajetter we have to work on that too, but its still early. I dont think dd really started to fall asleep on her own until 6-8 weeks, thats when i really focused on an eat play sleep cycle. Joel was falling asleep on his own but hadn't in several days. DDs ability to go to sleep on her own is pretty much her best quality so i hope this kid can do it too!
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Post by sparky85 on Feb 13, 2018 6:07:36 GMT -6
What does everyone think of gripe water? We use the alcohol free gripe water when dd is really fussy but it doesn't seem to be full blown gas pains. If it is gas pain/gurgling we use oval drops (simithicone). I find that the gripe water can help her to calm down for a few minutes, which can allow us to burp her without her screaming. It probably works similarly to the sucrose in the nicu to reduce pain in the short term, but with the addition of herbals and some baking soda to calm upset tummies.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 13, 2018 10:37:54 GMT -6
ajetter right there w you on won’t sleep without being held during the day. I gave into yesterday and held her for most of the day yesterday to help her catch up on sleep. It helped bc our night was better but as soon as early morning hits she wants me and my arms and my boobs.
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Post by dragonflyinn on Feb 13, 2018 11:01:51 GMT -6
ajetter I’m with you on the RNP...DS has been super congested since he came home and the RNP is so much better at night for that. I want him sleeping flat but he just wakes up all congested and in the RNP he will sleep almost twice as long. He naps in the flat pack n play during the day though so I hope that we will have an easy transition bc he is used to it. As far as general advice I agree with peachesncream about the day/night routines. I keep our door open when DS is sleeping in there and we don’t try to be quiet. I run my nutribullet with him in the room lol. It’s impossible to keep a toddler quiet so I’m just letting that go & so far (4 weeks in) DS handles it great. I don’t close the windows or darken his room for naps either. At night I change him into pajamas after his 7-8pm feeding and we snuggle a little until he gets tired, then he goes into the RNP In our room with the lights dimmed. Sometimes already asleep but often just sleepy and he puts himself to sleep. We were very intentional about the light thing during daytime with DD too and it was well worth it because she could sleep no matter how dark it was— we moved when she was almost 1 and the sun shines directly into her room during naptime but she could sleep just fine.
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Post by ajetter on Feb 13, 2018 11:15:37 GMT -6
Yeah there is absolutely zero sleeping flat over here at the moment. It’s either held or in the RnP.
Per the others have said I definitely don’t worry about making it dark where she naps, but I do turn on some white noise. I’m also currently using a different swaddle at bedtime than I do during the day.
DD2 and 3 both slept swaddled in the RnP until nearly 6 Months. 😳 I’m hoping to buck up and make the transition between 3 and 4 months.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 15, 2018 8:48:24 GMT -6
Omg! Omg! Omg! Very well timed 5.5 hour stretch and then 3 hour. This is a world of difference from what we were just recently dealing with. benandjerrys she’s slept better since I’ve just leaned into the nap holding to help her catch up. Even though I knew to do that I needed someone else to tell me. Thank you!
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Post by benandjerrys on Feb 15, 2018 8:53:07 GMT -6
Omg! Omg! Omg! Very well timed 5.5 hour stretch and then 3 hour. This is a world of difference from what we were just recently dealing with. benandjerrys she’s slept better since I’ve just leaned into the nap holding to help her catch up. Even though I knew to do that I needed someone else to tell me. Thank you! That's great rebeccabunch!! Yay for sleep!!
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Post by ajetter on Feb 15, 2018 8:57:49 GMT -6
Can anyone explain why at night baby sleeps in the RnP no problem. Several hours at a time. But during the day she needs to be held? I know lots of babies are similar but I just don’t get it.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 15, 2018 9:05:25 GMT -6
Can anyone explain why at night baby sleeps in the RnP no problem. Several hours at a time. But during the day she needs to be held? I know lots of babies are similar but I just don’t get it. Let me know when you figure this out. I spend about 23 hours a day pondering this same question.
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Post by dragonflyinn on Feb 15, 2018 10:43:48 GMT -6
Can anyone explain why at night baby sleeps in the RnP no problem. Several hours at a time. But during the day she needs to be held? I know lots of babies are similar but I just don’t get it. Let me know when you figure this out. I spend about 23 hours a day pondering this same question. I’d rather baby sleep well at night than daytime lol. DS is kind of in a similar phase too, he just wants to snuggle all day. Which is fine bc he’s been spending the last few days alone in our room most of the time with DD being sick.
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Post by ajetter on Feb 15, 2018 12:54:34 GMT -6
dragonflyinn for sure, I agree. I just don’t get it, you know?
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 21, 2018 11:57:45 GMT -6
I know we have a wide range of ages but I’m curious, when do you put your baby down for the night? If you have reasoning for it, what is it?
I’m trying to strategize with what we have going on and I’d like to see what’s working for others. Yes, I realize these are little babies that are unpredictable but humor me bc I do better when I at least think I can optimize what’s going on.
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Post by benandjerrys on Feb 21, 2018 12:00:04 GMT -6
rebeccabunch, baby goes down on the bassinet around 9 when we go to sleep. He usually sleeps in Hs arms from 8-9 while we watch TV, then we go upstairs and he gets a fresh diaper, swaddle and final nurse.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 21, 2018 12:03:50 GMT -6
For about a week we have been getting a great first stretch if I feed her for the last time around 10/10:30. I’m talking 5-7.5 hours. The problem is she won’t go down after she wakes up. When she’s waking at 5:45 I don’t care, I feel amazing and want to run a marathon or go on a bar crawl. When it’s 3:45 like last night, it blows. She really hasn’t gone back to sleep since then. I know, it’s bad. I’m doing something wrong. I’m wondering if I should try to do bed earlier, like 8 so we have a better chance at going back to sleep. ajetter I feel like you have identical sleep going on Also - she won’t sleep longer than 15 minutes not in my arms after her first night wake up until bedtime. I’m not exaggerating.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Feb 21, 2018 12:06:21 GMT -6
rebeccabunch, baby goes down on the bassinet around 9 when we go to sleep. He usually sleeps in Hs arms from 8-9 while we watch TV, then we go upstairs and he gets a fresh diaper, swaddle and final nurse. What time is he waking typically? I think 9 sounds like a good time.
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Post by benandjerrys on Feb 21, 2018 12:32:45 GMT -6
rebeccabunch, baby goes down on the bassinet around 9 when we go to sleep. He usually sleeps in Hs arms from 8-9 while we watch TV, then we go upstairs and he gets a fresh diaper, swaddle and final nurse. What time is he waking typically? I think 9 sounds like a good time. He wakes up to eat around 5 then back again until 6:45 or so and that's when we start our day.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 12:33:07 GMT -6
Baby goes down at 7... or at least that is what we are working towards. She used to kind of default to 10 and then woke at 9 and we have been working on shifting it. So far so good!
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