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Post by Betweenthelines on Jan 4, 2018 11:58:58 GMT -6
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Post by Betweenthelines on Jan 4, 2018 12:00:03 GMT -6
Perfect TOP.
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Post by CestLaVie on Jan 4, 2018 12:00:46 GMT -6
aydee ahh how frustrating. I hope all the babies are better ASAP. jedi your MIL makes me crazy! I am having a day already. Storm has flights cancelled and my employee from the east coast called to tell me he's pissed because it's 4 days pay he'll be missing etc etc. Add the comment on UO that DS probably isn't caught up at school and probably won't catch up and I'm in my feelings now lol.Puke watch last night was at 0!! So that's a plus. I don't have it in me to read through the UOs. What was the context for this? Why would DS be behind in school? he didn't go into kindergarten knowing his alphabet or how to write his name. Apparently even if I think he's caught up research shows he's not and this is going to lead to being further behind for years to come including impacting future income level and job success... ETA I know it was just being used to argue for universal preschool (which I wish was a thing) but I don't get how that wouldn't make anyone who's kid is not there feel like shit
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Post by skinandbones on Jan 4, 2018 12:00:56 GMT -6
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Post by Betweenthelines on Jan 4, 2018 12:06:14 GMT -6
Snow day means I'm opening some wine.
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Post by aydee on Jan 4, 2018 12:11:09 GMT -6
I don't have it in me to read through the UOs. What was the context for this? Why would DS be behind in school? he didn't go into kindergarten knowing his alphabet or how to write his name. Apparently even if I think he's caught up research shows he's not and this is going to lead to being further behind for years to come including impacting future income level and job success... ETA I know it was just being used to argue for universal preschool (which I wish was a thing) but I don't get how that wouldn't make anyone who's kid is not there feel like shit I made it through most of Bringing Up Bebe and in that book the author talks about how the French don't push their kids to learn academic skills early on. In fact, they don't really teach them to read until age 7, and at that point the kids pick it up much faster than they would have if someone tried to teach them the same skill at age 4 or 5. They put much less pressure on young children. Doesn't seem to be resulting in a culture in France where people aren't successful. Preschools in France focus more on teaching kids to be inquisitive, independent, decent citizens. I found myself wondering why we don't approach schooling that way here.
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Post by aydee on Jan 4, 2018 12:13:50 GMT -6
Betweenthelines, is the house you're looking at actually "small", or just smaller than the 3000+ sq ft mansion your H was wanting? If it's actually small, isn't that part of why you're choosing to move now?
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Post by Betweenthelines on Jan 4, 2018 12:18:12 GMT -6
Betweenthelines, is the house you're looking at actually "small", or just smaller than the 3000+ sq ft mansion your H was wanting? If it's actually small, isn't that part of why you're choosing to move now? It's about 2500 SQ feet not including the basement. So it's more than double what we have now. I say smaller because it is under the 3k+ h wanted. But this house is done so nice. Look at the shower in the master's ensuite ETA, the house is still being worked on, so shower doors aren't in yet.
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Post by fierymama on Jan 4, 2018 12:21:47 GMT -6
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Post by CestLaVie on Jan 4, 2018 13:10:53 GMT -6
he didn't go into kindergarten knowing his alphabet or how to write his name. Apparently even if I think he's caught up research shows he's not and this is going to lead to being further behind for years to come including impacting future income level and job success... ETA I know it was just being used to argue for universal preschool (which I wish was a thing) but I don't get how that wouldn't make anyone who's kid is not there feel like shit I made it through most of Bringing Up Bebe and in that book the author talks about how the French don't push their kids to learn academic skills early on. In fact, they don't really teach them to read until age 7, and at that point the kids pick it up much faster than they would have if someone tried to teach them the same skill at age 4 or 5. They put much less pressure on young children. Doesn't seem to be resulting in a culture in France where people aren't successful. Preschools in France focus more on teaching kids to be inquisitive, independent, decent citizens. I found myself wondering why we don't approach schooling that way here. Thank you! I read this book too and that explains my opinion much better and makes me feel better. The comment just made me feel like I really fucked up. But he wasn't getting it and I don't think pressuring a 4 year old to learn faster is something I would do personally. Maybe other people are better teachers lol.
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Post by RunsforWineandCarbs on Jan 4, 2018 13:16:17 GMT -6
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Post by RunsforWineandCarbs on Jan 4, 2018 13:17:22 GMT -6
aydee, the 1 time my Addie had the flu, my H then got it and then I got it - all at the same time. I have been scared of that since. I am so sorry you are going thru that right now. It's horrible. If I lived near you, i'd send lysol and chicken noodle soup along with gateraid. Feel better soon.
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Post by coconutbacon on Jan 4, 2018 13:27:15 GMT -6
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Post by fierymama on Jan 4, 2018 13:29:51 GMT -6
CestLaVie - I don't think C was writing his name quite yet at 4. I think he could recognize the C? Then again, I didn't really teach him as much as daycare/pre-k. You guys are in Canada though, right? And your Kinder is like our pre-k. Then 1st is like our K. Either way, I think it isn't a huge deal for 4!
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Post by jedi on Jan 4, 2018 13:38:52 GMT -6
Oh aydee I hope you feel better soon. That’s how I had it too. Both puking (although luckily only twice) but also diarrhea. Sending you many hugs
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Post by CestLaVie on Jan 4, 2018 13:41:38 GMT -6
CestLaVie - I don't think C was writing his name quite yet at 4. I think he could recognize the C? Then again, I didn't really teach him as much as daycare/pre-k. You guys are in Canada though, right? And your Kinder is like our pre-k. Then 1st is like our K. Either way, I think it isn't a huge deal for 4! I think you're thinking of Jr. Kindergarten which is in Ontario and is universal Pre-K. He can write his name now , and mine, DD's and DH's (he's 5 now), so I feel like he is doing great! I love to read and we read together every night so I know he will improve but it is hard not to be anxious about it. Also I have major feelings that is something is required education wise prior to kindergarten, it should be accessible to everyone then. Maybe I will change my mind but I don't feel jamming it in earlier and earlier is the answer. Like I'd love to see free preschool, but not free preschool that pressures kids to read at age 3.
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Post by jedi on Jan 4, 2018 13:53:19 GMT -6
I’m hoping that I am imagining things but I went with mil to Isaacs class and he almost seemed to calm. I don’t know. He left this morning before the meds kicked in and so I haven’t seen him on it. And I know i can’t judge based on a 30 min interaction. He seemed to zone out but that could be normal for him too.
The visit to school was so nice. My mil did a great job with the kids and Isaac loved having her there. The kids seemed to enjoy the lesson too. They already left though. I wish their visit could have been longer. Oh well.
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Post by jedi on Jan 4, 2018 13:53:50 GMT -6
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Post by fierymama on Jan 4, 2018 13:55:05 GMT -6
CestLaVie - I don't think C was writing his name quite yet at 4. I think he could recognize the C? Then again, I didn't really teach him as much as daycare/pre-k. You guys are in Canada though, right? And your Kinder is like our pre-k. Then 1st is like our K. Either way, I think it isn't a huge deal for 4! I think you're thinking of Jr. Kindergarten which is in Ontario and is universal Pre-K. He can write his name now , and mine, DD's and DH's (he's 5 now), so I feel like he is doing great! I love to read and we read together every night so I know he will improve but it is hard not to be anxious about it. Also I have major feelings that is something is required education wise prior to kindergarten, it should be accessible to everyone then. Maybe I will change my mind but I don't feel jamming it in earlier and earlier is the answer. Like I'd love to see free preschool, but not free preschool that pressures kids to read at age 3. Ah, okay. I didn't realize that there was a difference throughout Canada. C just started really learning to read and he just turned 6. We've read to him almost nightly for a few years, but now we point out words for him to read - or when he brings home simple books each week, he reads those. I don't push it at home since we have such little time at home anyways - until school starts working on it. Maybe I'm wrong in doing it this way myself.
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Post by aydee on Jan 4, 2018 14:12:39 GMT -6
CestLaVie - I don't think C was writing his name quite yet at 4. I think he could recognize the C? Then again, I didn't really teach him as much as daycare/pre-k. You guys are in Canada though, right? And your Kinder is like our pre-k. Then 1st is like our K. Either way, I think it isn't a huge deal for 4! I think you're thinking of Jr. Kindergarten which is in Ontario and is universal Pre-K. He can write his name now , and mine, DD's and DH's (he's 5 now), so I feel like he is doing great! I love to read and we read together every night so I know he will improve but it is hard not to be anxious about it. Also I have major feelings that is something is required education wise prior to kindergarten, it should be accessible to everyone then. Maybe I will change my mind but I don't feel jamming it in earlier and earlier is the answer. Like I'd love to see free preschool, but not free preschool that pressures kids to read at age 3. There's no reason for kids to be reading at 3. There are other much more important things for kids that age to be learning. The preschool we send I&A to focuses a lot on character education which I think is fabulous. They really work on learning to be kind to others and treat people well. There is exposure to academic concepts but in a way that's relaxed and fun. As for reading, Ava could be reading tomorrow if I really worked on it with her. She's able to sound out simple words on her own. I see no reason to push that agenda though. I'd rather wait until she asks me to help her read so it's something she genuinely is excited to do rather than something I'm trying to make her do. Or she'll learn in kindergarten. That's what school is for. I don't get why it's such a big deal.
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Post by mommabakes on Jan 4, 2018 14:26:02 GMT -6
I hate the current education expectations, and feel like every decision we make is the wrong one. Every kid and situation is different, and every parent is trying to make the best decision for their kids. Example: I've been a SAHM the past 4 years, DD is 4, and I'm teaching her to read, because she is interested. She will looked be going into K before she's 5. DS is 2 and barely knows colors, no shapes/letters/can't count past 2, and is difficult for most people to understand. We aren't sure yet about his education time line. They are just very different kids (which I have to remind myself of all the time) and are learning very differently.
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Post by mommabakes on Jan 4, 2018 14:27:07 GMT -6
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Post by mommabakes on Jan 4, 2018 14:28:26 GMT -6
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Post by Betweenthelines on Jan 4, 2018 14:38:14 GMT -6
I just finished snow blowing and salting my driveway and it's already covered again.
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Post by easternshoregirl on Jan 4, 2018 14:51:38 GMT -6
aydee, yuck yuck yuck. I hope you guys get better really soon. Betweenthelines, I think 2500sq ft sounds like a good compromise for the two of you! Happy birhtday skinandbones!!!! I'm glad the visit went so well, jedi!
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Post by Betweenthelines on Jan 4, 2018 15:18:44 GMT -6
H just told me text our realtor to find out what needs to be finished on the house because we want to make an offer
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Post by RunsforWineandCarbs on Jan 4, 2018 15:22:05 GMT -6
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Post by Betweenthelines on Jan 4, 2018 15:26:09 GMT -6
I'm going to take a shower and then show you guys some pictures of this house. I love it. But I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up.
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Post by jedi on Jan 4, 2018 15:33:12 GMT -6
Based on how this convo has gone I feel like sharing something a mom in Isaacs bmb shared. It’s kindergarten homework. We are an immersion school so our homework is reading to student only but I feel like it’s a district policy to not have homework at all the first few years. Most of the moms in this group found this absurd and one said her child had similar homework. Most were somewhere between me and this though. It’s just interesting how different it is elsewhere. Thoughts on this? I know A kid like Isaac would be set up to fail with this kind of homework every night.
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Post by jedi on Jan 4, 2018 15:34:24 GMT -6
I'm going to take a shower and then show you guys some pictures of this house. I love it. But I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up. Good luck!!
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