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Post by Uncaripswife on Oct 11, 2017 12:36:55 GMT -6
Like I said earlier, I do think a part of Trump's base is also a part that identifies with Eminem. So I got some feels when he told them to go fuck themselves. I felt the same. Like there is a Venn diagram overlap of Eminem fans and Kid Rock fans, and Eminem just told them to stick with Kid Rock if they support Trump. |
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 11, 2017 12:37:22 GMT -6
Well huh
Turnip 'endorsed' for lack of a better word, Slim Shady on a tv event in 2004.
I'm thinking he wont be on the WH Christmas card list this year.
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Post by crunch on Oct 11, 2017 12:38:41 GMT -6
Like I said earlier, I do think a part of Trump's base is also a part that identifies with Eminem. So I got some feels when he told them to go fuck themselves. This is the first thing I thought about too. I take glee in 20 year old white men yelling at their phones and being all "I'm going to boycott Eminem now". Like he gives a fuck. I do think more white men need to step forward and be vocal because they sure as hell aren't on the football teams. |
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Post by Uncaripswife on Oct 11, 2017 12:39:49 GMT -6
I really need these people to give all their money and voices to democrats in the boring, traditionally less glamorous 2018 midterms. Yes, Trump sucks. And 2018 is step one to mitigating his disaster of a human presidency. I'm glad he was able to take a break to make a record and rant I guess. But I'm also like where were your rhymy Rhyme rhymes when president Obama was getting called all these racial slurs, or when his birthplace was being questioned. When he kept calling women pigs? I mean, they can easily turn if off or pause their life to make a record but many don't get that life. That's all I'm saying. I think you said it up thread: too little, too late? I think that's a more than fair criticism. Is there any room for "better late than never?" Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know the answer. |
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Post by sterling on Oct 11, 2017 12:42:17 GMT -6
I'm glad he was able to take a break to make a record and rant I guess. But I'm also like where were your rhymy Rhyme rhymes when president Obama was getting called all these racial slurs, or when his birthplace was being questioned. When he kept calling women pigs? I mean, they can easily turn if off or pause their life to make a record but many don't get that life. That's all I'm saying. I think you said it up thread: too little, too late? I think that's a more than fair criticism. Is there any room for "better late than never?" Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know the answer. I'm unequivocally, 100% on team better late than never. That doesn't mean all is forgotten and forgiven. I'll take a changed heart and mind any day, though. |
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Post by Uncaripswife on Oct 11, 2017 12:44:04 GMT -6
I mean, I'm living my life like it's better late than never.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 12:44:11 GMT -6
Like I said earlier, I do think a part of Trump's base is also a part that identifies with Eminem. So I got some feels when he told them to go fuck themselves. This is the first thing I thought about too. I take glee in 20 year old white men yelling at their phones and being all "I'm going to boycott Eminem now". Like he gives a fuck. I do think more white men need to step forward and be vocal because they sure as hell aren't on the football teams. Well, let's be honest. His fans are probably in their 30s or 40s by now. |
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Post by crunch on Oct 11, 2017 12:45:03 GMT -6
This is the first thing I thought about too. I take glee in 20 year old white men yelling at their phones and being all "I'm going to boycott Eminem now". Like he gives a fuck. I do think more white men need to step forward and be vocal because they sure as hell aren't on the football teams. Well, let's be honest. His fans are probably in their 30s or 40s by now. lol true, even better? I have to be honest and say I didn't even know Eminem was still making music. |
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 12:45:59 GMT -6
Hopefully it doesn't sound like I'm white knighting the pendejo. I hate him and love it when he gets trolled and bashed. I don't think there is a perfect ally. I'm just expressing my frustration with the influx of outspoken voices now. TO ME, It feels like too little too late on many things. Where was Eminem before the election? Or even before that? Like i said, this is personal so I view defaults to this. Like it's easy for him to say what's already being said. Too little, too late? I think it's a lonnnnngggggggggggggggggg fucking road. A long battle. A change that is taking goddamn generations to set in. In my personal opinion, the world is not actually getting worse. Statistically speaking, this is mostly supported. We can argue this another day. And I fully understand and absolutely appreciate your voice in this discussion as well. But I will stand pretty firm in the idea that the "too little, too late" mentality isn't something I'm going to subscribe to at all. What kind of world am I letting my kids out into? I'm hopeful they are being let out into a world where they know the issues and can do their part in affecting the change. I don't talk about it a lot here because I generally have a much more positive, glass-half-full outlook on things than a lot of people. I don't relish the dumpster fire mentality, if I'm totally honest. I think it's a mental place I cannot live in. My FIL, who is literally the nerdiest, most literal, actual embodient of Rainman ever, was here this past weekend. We talked a lot of statistics about life. Violent deaths are lower now than they were 2,000 years ago. Is this an apples to apples comparison? I don't entirely think so, but it's not far off. I cannot, personally subscribe to the armageddon, and now we quickly arrive at why I left this board a long time ago. It felt very much like that at the time. I'm sure, in the day to day, it's not like that. People say it's not. But history takes a long fucking time to write. To us, as we're living in, day in and day out, it's lifetimes. But when it's written about in hindsight, it's shit like "from 2001-2043, the USA fought the War on Terror". So yes, to us right now, it feels overwhelming, but in the spanse of history, I am firmly not in the "too little, too late" camp. Too little too late for the people affected by this administration. I mean yes. There's a long road ahead. I'm speaking to the effects on those who are part of the "Mexicans are rapists" "Muslim bans" and black folks who are implicated with all this. It feels like too light too late for them. Hell I have cousins who don't qualify for daca renewal. So after their visas expire they are free game for ice. When it hits home it definitely feels like a dumpster fire and Armageddon. |
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Post by sterling on Oct 11, 2017 12:46:12 GMT -6
This is the first thing I thought about too. I take glee in 20 year old white men yelling at their phones and being all "I'm going to boycott Eminem now". Like he gives a fuck. I do think more white men need to step forward and be vocal because they sure as hell aren't on the football teams. Well, let's be honest. His fans are probably in their 30s or 40s by now. I think you just called me old, so you're now the thread party pooper. |
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 12:46:29 GMT -6
And miawallace I'm just in here making counter points, but not for one minute do I think you are wrong about anything you are saying. Not at all. I don't think you are a party pooper either. We need to get high together and have this conversation again. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 12:48:22 GMT -6
This is the first thing I thought about too. I take glee in 20 year old white men yelling at their phones and being all "I'm going to boycott Eminem now". Like he gives a fuck. I do think more white men need to step forward and be vocal because they sure as hell aren't on the football teams. Well, let's be honest. His fans are probably in their 30s or 40s by now. 😓 I was 20 when The Slim Shady LP released. |
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Post by JukEboX on Oct 11, 2017 12:57:13 GMT -6
This is the first thing I thought about too. I take glee in 20 year old white men yelling at their phones and being all "I'm going to boycott Eminem now". Like he gives a fuck. I do think more white men need to step forward and be vocal because they sure as hell aren't on the football teams. Well, let's be honest. His fans are probably in their 30s or 40s by now. True in my 30s. But as the we are the social media creation generation our breadth is wide and deep. Which is probably what has helping Eminem's clip get so much coverage over night. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 12:58:24 GMT -6
There was a group of guys who I graduated high school with who basically walked around looking like this:  |
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Oct 11, 2017 12:59:48 GMT -6
Well, let's be honest. His fans are probably in their 30s or 40s by now. 😓 I was 20 when The Slim Shady LP released. OMG me toooooooo |
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 13:03:14 GMT -6
There was a group of guys who I graduated high school with who basically walked around looking like this:  |
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Post by JukEboX on Oct 11, 2017 13:11:14 GMT -6
There was a group of guys who I graduated high school with who basically walked around looking like this: Wish my work didn't block most pictures :/ |
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Post by mack on Oct 11, 2017 13:13:04 GMT -6
And miawallace I'm just in here making counter points, but not for one minute do I think you are wrong about anything you are saying. Not at all. I don't think you are a party pooper either. Yeah, HilarityEnsued is just here for the counterpoints. |
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 13:31:27 GMT -6
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Post by Bookshelves on Oct 11, 2017 19:21:46 GMT -6
Hello Politics Board! I'm Hilarity! I cry at Eminem videos, hate Trump and argue about everything! Welcome. We have booze and cupcakes.  (I'll finish reading the thread now. But I just wanted to say before I get distracted -- miawallace I appreciate your POV that you bring to this and many other topics.) |
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 20:30:49 GMT -6
Eminem is sexist,homophobic,misogynistic, raps about rape Donald trump is sexist, homophobic , misogynistic, brags about rape How Eminem gonna call him out when they're one in the same? 😴- FB Deep Quote not mine. Uses the N word in his songs. White dudes getting passes left and right. |
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 20:46:34 GMT -6
Uses the N word in his songs. White dudes getting passes left and right. Question the validity of Black rappers 💩 He's trash. He didn't say anything when 45 was calling for Obamas birth certificate, Mexicans are rapists, Muslims bans, calling women pigs, and pussy grabbing remarks. I don't buy it. He has an album coming out next month. See, now I'm ranting again in this thread. |
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Post by sterling on Oct 12, 2017 4:38:24 GMT -6
He's trash. He didn't say anything when 45 was calling for Obamas birth certificate, Mexicans are rapists, Muslims bans, calling women pigs, and pussy grabbing remarks. I don't buy it. He has an album coming out next month. See, now I'm ranting again in this thread. It didn’t benefit him them. 🤑 Yeah, the more I think about this the clearer it is just a publicity stunt for a new album release. Sigh. I'll still take the Trump hate, but I have to remember to take it with a heaping side of skepticism. |
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Post by brux on Oct 12, 2017 7:47:04 GMT -6
If what Eminem has to say is invalid because he's sexist, homophobic, misogynistic then there is a huge list of rappers that also aren't allowed to say anything.
If what he has to say is invalid is because he said it on BET and not on MTV or the Grammys, that's on the media companies. I don't see CBS handing five minutes of live airtime to anyone controversial.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 8:02:23 GMT -6
So I guess it's a confession that I listened to Eminem on my way home from work yesterday.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 12, 2017 8:07:42 GMT -6
If what Eminem has to say is invalid because he's sexist, homophobic, misogynistic then there is a huge list of rappers that also aren't allowed to say anything. If what he has to say is invalid is because he said it on BET and not on MTV or the Grammys, that's on the media companies. I don't see CBS handing five minutes of live airtime to anyone controversial. I dont think what he said is invalid. Hes not saying anything a lot of us have been saying for months/years. I am saying he doesnt get a pat on the head or kudos for 'putting himself out there'. What he put out was a well timed publicity stunt. It got people talking about him again, curiously right before an album release. |
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Post by miawallace on Oct 12, 2017 8:17:10 GMT -6
If what Eminem has to say is invalid because he's sexist, homophobic, misogynistic then there is a huge list of rappers that also aren't allowed to say anything. If what he has to say is invalid is because he said it on BET and not on MTV or the Grammys, that's on the media companies. I don't see CBS handing five minutes of live airtime to anyone controversial. He's a white dude using the N word. He's not a black rapper. I'm talking about how a white dude here. He needs to stay in his lane. He's not allowed to use the N word just because he's a rapper. |
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Post by JukEboX on Oct 12, 2017 9:06:35 GMT -6
If what Eminem has to say is invalid because he's sexist, homophobic, misogynistic then there is a huge list of rappers that also aren't allowed to say anything. If what he has to say is invalid is because he said it on BET and not on MTV or the Grammys, that's on the media companies. I don't see CBS handing five minutes of live airtime to anyone controversial. He's a white dude using the N word. He's not a black rapper. I'm talking about how a white dude here. He needs to stay in his lane. He's not allowed to use the N word just because he's a rapper. I could not agree with you more. I watch and listen to a lot of underground and the cringyest thing is when white rappers think its ok to use that word or any variation of it. |
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Post by pesto on Oct 12, 2017 9:44:05 GMT -6
If this were a publicity stunt, why would he be saying fuck you to his fans - who he would potentially be selling albums to? They're boycotting him now.
This map shows the correlation between counties where Trump is popular and counties where Eminem is...
I'm not saying we need to bow down to Eminem but I don't think what he did hurts anything, and I think it's much better that he says "if you're my fan and you support this - fuck you" then to keep quiet.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 12, 2017 9:52:16 GMT -6
If this were a publicity stunt, why would he be saying fuck you to his fans - who he would potentially be selling albums to? They're boycotting him now. Any publicity is good publicity. We're on day 4 of still hearing about him? |
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