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Post by alwayscheese on Oct 2, 2017 10:30:29 GMT -6
Just to point out, it is also not recommended for baby to sleep overnight in the RnP rock n play, I'm pretty sure. Which is probably a similar problem to the napper - the curved shape, and not flat. And SO MANY people recommend that, esp for reflux babies. Recommended by the CDC I mean. They only like flat surfaces. So, like, problems are everywhere. Meh! I'm also like, well at least they're not sleeping on their stomachs then. The concern with not sleeping flat has to do with spine development, nothing to do with Sudden Unexpected Infant Death, right?
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Post by ovenrack on Oct 2, 2017 10:35:29 GMT -6
Just to point out, it is also not recommended for baby to sleep overnight in the RnP rock n play, I'm pretty sure. Which is probably a similar problem to the napper - the curved shape, and not flat. And SO MANY people recommend that, esp for reflux babies. Recommended by the CDC I mean. They only like flat surfaces. So, like, problems are everywhere. Meh! I'm also like, well at least they're not sleeping on their stomachs then. The concern with not sleeping flat has to do with spine development, nothing to do with Sudden Unexpected Infant Death, right? I don't even know anymore! Lol. All of these things: I try my best. And then I'm not sleeping and I'm desperate and sleep deprived and I'll probably end up doing whatever is closest to ideal conditions, plus allows me to sleep.
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Post by calendula on Oct 2, 2017 11:02:45 GMT -6
Just to point out, it is also not recommended for baby to sleep overnight in the RnP rock n play, I'm pretty sure. Which is probably a similar problem to the napper - the curved shape, and not flat. And SO MANY people recommend that, esp for reflux babies. Recommended by the CDC I mean. They only like flat surfaces. So, like, problems are everywhere. Meh! By the time our children are having babies, they will only recommend that newborns sleep flat on hardwood floors.
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Post by Rama on Oct 2, 2017 11:23:24 GMT -6
Just to point out, it is also not recommended for baby to sleep overnight in the RnP rock n play, I'm pretty sure. Which is probably a similar problem to the napper - the curved shape, and not flat. And SO MANY people recommend that, esp for reflux babies. Recommended by the CDC I mean. They only like flat surfaces. So, like, problems are everywhere. Meh! I'm also like, well at least they're not sleeping on their stomachs then. The concern with not sleeping flat has to do with spine development, nothing to do with Sudden Unexpected Infant Death, right? I actually think it is something about SIDS? Because if you put the baby in something like a RNP when they don't have head control, their head can lean forward and cut off their breathing because everything is so squishy. I know that so many people do put their kids to sleep in carseats and RNPs and other such non-flat things, but it just makes me too nervous to try myself. Watch me eat my words in April.
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Post by yianna on Oct 2, 2017 11:43:20 GMT -6
Rama I felt the same way about the RNP, but the angle isn't as severe as a car seat without a base, if that makes sense? All I know is that thing has some sort of baby sleepy magic in it. We will try co sleeper first, but if it's a no go, that RNP is coming out lol.
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Post by alwayscheese on Oct 2, 2017 11:46:15 GMT -6
Ah that makes sense Rama. Of course I'm hoping I'll have a magic baby that will sleep wherever I lay him down. Lolol
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Post by dizzycooks on Oct 2, 2017 11:49:35 GMT -6
Baby will be in our room for the first few months. When we are down to one to two wakings we will switch to the crib. I just can’t go upstairs every hour. On the other hand I tend to hear every little thing and think a little fussing isnt going to hurt them motn.
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Post by woodenshoes on Oct 2, 2017 13:18:32 GMT -6
I think the plan for us, right now, is to use the pack-n-play. DS slept in the bassinet portion (not the napper thing). We used the pack n play for about 3 months. This child may be in our room longer, so we may just put the crib up in our room. Honestly, I am not sure where this child is going to sleep after they get the boot from our room. The room configuration of our house annoys me.
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Post by katietopaz on Oct 2, 2017 13:58:49 GMT -6
The concern with RNPs is they don't meet safe sleep guidelines (which are for SIDS prevention), specifically that babies are on a firm, flat surface for extended sleep. My understanding from my pedi is that RNPs can also contribute to flat spot issues since they tend to hold baby's head in one position, and there's an eventual concern that once they first learn to roll over, they could roll and suffocate because they can't roll back over since they're at an angle.
But honestly, talk to your pediatrician, and you just have to take your sanity into consideration. A kiddo of friends of ours had the worst reflux, and the RNP was a lifesaver for them. I admit it just makes me a little too nervous to use for overnight sleep.
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Post by gldnbearz on Oct 2, 2017 14:15:18 GMT -6
We had the RNP and Pack and Play for #1. For the PNP, we used the upper bassinet portion, I didn't like the newborn napper attachment. Once kiddo could start moving, transitioned out of the RNP and dropped the PNP to the bottom. We never did a crib due to space issues. Kiddo used the PNP with a 3" mattress until we moved her to a twin mattress on the floor.
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Post by sailsandstitches on Oct 2, 2017 14:31:50 GMT -6
Yes, but that's a less scientifically backed rec at this point. My understanding is that there are things that raise the risk of SUID (suffocation, positional asphyxia and true SIDS) and there are things that are "protective measures" with not as much evidence backing. Things like baby having their own sleep space that's firm, flat and empty have lots of evidence for preventing infant death. Things like room sharing, pacifier use and breastfeeding seem to reduce risks, but they're not sure the exact mechanism so they're softer recommendations.
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Post by sweetc129 on Oct 2, 2017 14:34:37 GMT -6
We only did in our room for the first week and that was in the bassinet portion of the pack n play, we'll do the same this time
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Post by smootiepie on Oct 2, 2017 15:26:07 GMT -6
We used the RNP and occasionally the PNP napper until DS started rolling over, then we used the bassinet part of the PNP until about 5 months when we moved him to the crib.
We'll probably do the same with this baby, depends on how he sleeps
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Post by alwayscheese on Oct 2, 2017 15:28:14 GMT -6
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Post by babybean on Oct 2, 2017 17:21:45 GMT -6
I bedshare. I tried the bassinet for 3 nights and slept horribly. I accept the side eyes and judgment. It made life and breastfeeding easier and I did it safely.
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Post by nuggetrn on Oct 2, 2017 17:48:09 GMT -6
So I was always leaning towards the pack and play for baby to sleep in overnight in our room. Now I know I need the bassinet attachment and not just the napper. Check.
Some of the pack and plays have other crazy attachments like things that vibrate. Which I am thinking is less necessary because I imagine we will end up with a swing (that swings and vibrates) and probably a rnp (do these sometimes have movement/vibration?) So I suppose this has narrowed down my thought process some.
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Post by polson on Oct 2, 2017 18:56:54 GMT -6
we planned on using pnp in our room with dd, but ended up putting her in crib after first week. the first week was basically h and i taking 3 hour shifts holding her as our darn cat showed too much interest in the pnp and we had no door to shut to keep him out. we did naps in the newborn part of the pnp and a swing during the day. the plan is to use the crib straight away this time (our rooms are all on same level). i never used an rnp the first time, so hoping we don't need to buy one this time. h has threatened to buy a snoo if this one doesn't sleep well like dd didn't sleep well, which is funny because i did about 90% of wake-ups (but i guess it made me cranky🤷🏼♀️)
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Post by polson on Oct 2, 2017 19:03:58 GMT -6
this thread is bringing back dark newborn sleep (no sleep) memories. i don't think i'm ready yet. fx we all have good sleepers!!
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Post by whatsit on Oct 2, 2017 22:59:24 GMT -6
I’m really late on this but we have a wooden cradle that my dad made for me and my sisters. So baby will stay in our room with that for the first little bit until it’s sleeping long enough at night to move to the crib.
...here’s hoping baby agrees with these plans.
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Post by cornpop on Oct 3, 2017 5:53:35 GMT -6
we planned on using pnp in our room with dd, but ended up putting her in crib after first week. the first week was basically h and i taking 3 hour shifts holding her as our darn cat showed too much interest in the pnp and we had no door to shut to keep him out. we did naps in the newborn part of the pnp and a swing during the day. the plan is to use the crib straight away this time (our rooms are all on same level). i never used an rnp the first time, so hoping we don't need to buy one this time. h has threatened to buy a snoo if this one doesn't sleep well like dd didn't sleep well, which is funny because i did about 90% of wake-ups (but i guess it made me cranky🤷🏼♀️) This was us with our dogs. They sleep in our bedroom but the little one kept wanting to (and successfully) jumping in the PNP. It was an nightmare. We eventually ended up having to crate them at night but then they'd bark so it was still not great. But it was also the first baby they were ever around. They're much more ambivalent to our daughter now so I'm hoping we won't have this issue.
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Post by rm2013 on Oct 3, 2017 7:23:34 GMT -6
polson I didn’t use a RNP with my first, but loved the hell out of it with my second. It was so convenient I took it everywhere. I’d put her in it in the kitchen when I was cooking, she’d hang out there while we ate dinner, and I’d even go over to visit friends with it thrown in my trunk and she’d chill or sleep in it. So compact and portable!!
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Post by polson on Oct 3, 2017 7:54:28 GMT -6
rm2013 im guessing i will have to cave and get one...i think i will need to have more options when there is a 2 yo running around too!
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Post by Rama on Oct 3, 2017 9:00:09 GMT -6
I bedshare. I tried the bassinet for 3 nights and slept horribly. I accept the side eyes and judgment. It made life and breastfeeding easier and I did it safely. 0% judgement. Bedsharing is not for me because I know I sleep like the dead, but it's been an invaluable activity for some close friends. If you can do it and it works, then have at! Eventually, when baby isn't so teensy, we might transition to some form of bedsharing, too.
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Post by yianna on Oct 3, 2017 9:23:14 GMT -6
I bedshare. I tried the bassinet for 3 nights and slept horribly. I accept the side eyes and judgment. It made life and breastfeeding easier and I did it safely. As a first time mom I was SO AGAINST bedsharing. And then my kid didn't sleep. And I was up holding him, FALLING ASLEEP sitting upright, and the risk of him falling off of me onto the floor was too great. So we started to bedshare...he transitioned back to his bed fine after a while. When my second came, I SWORE I wouldn't do it again. This one had to nurse ALL NIGHT LONG and so, we bedshared. In fact, he didn't get out of our bed until a few weeks before my third was born. My third REJECTED it. I was ready for it. It worked. She hated it. RNP FTW with her. So I say I plan on doing XYZ but what really matters is that we all sleep, safely. So I totally feel you here.
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Post by rm2013 on Oct 3, 2017 9:29:05 GMT -6
yianna you just made me remember that my first slept on my chest (with me propped up on pillows) for the first 3-4 weeks. I’m sure the infant sleep guideline people would stone me, but that’s what worked for us.
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Post by cp3 on Oct 3, 2017 14:27:48 GMT -6
DD alternated between bed sharing and her RNP. She was born in October and got her first cold when she was a month old and was non stop sick with horrible respiratory infections after that and the RNP helped her congestion since she was elevated. She moved to her crib in her room when she was around 5 months. I'll probably get a small bassinet to keep in our room for the first few months for this baby until they are moved into their room.
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Post by cp3 on Oct 3, 2017 14:28:08 GMT -6
DD alternated between bed sharing and her RNP. She was born in October and got her first cold when she was a month old and was non stop sick with horrible respiratory infections after that and the RNP helped her congestion since she was elevated. She moved to her crib in her room when she was around 5 months. I'll probably get a small bassinet to keep in our room for the first few months for this baby until they are moved into their room.
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Oct 3, 2017 15:05:50 GMT -6
My bassinet with DS1 was quite small and we ended up having to bring the crib into our room which involved disassemble reassemble no thank you. I got this for new baby, it is heaps bigger and legs can turn to be rocking like a cradle or not. ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171003/e47266dba4593d36b1d67697134bfc60.jpg) Baby boy should be able to sleep in there until 5-6 months unless he’s much bigger than DS1 was. It also folds up flat quickly so easy to take places too. It’s an ingenuity rocking bassinet.
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Post by jewel on Oct 3, 2017 16:34:40 GMT -6
DD was in the arms reach for about 5 months before moving to her crib... towards the end we had to drop her down bc of rolling, which essentially makes it a PNP. We loved it and will definitely be using it again. We started with flat for all sleep right away. She hated the RNP and all swings anything like that, she wouldn't be in them at all, let alone sleep in them. We'll see with this one, but I prefer the baby sleeps flat and we not have to deal with that transition
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Post by mirabelle on Oct 3, 2017 16:58:20 GMT -6
rm2013, I had the same experience w/ the portability of the RNP and will be buying an extra one to have around. It was so portable and easy to throw in the trunk, took it on a cabin vacation, etc. My first slept in he RNP for a few weeks then we transitioned him to his crib and it was like we turned a corner and everyone slept better- it was like he could tell he had more space. I'll just follow babe's cues, but we loved RNP.
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