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Post by notblanche on Feb 29, 2024 8:22:44 GMT -6
Also, his social media team is 🔥
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Post by jaygee on Feb 29, 2024 11:36:31 GMT -6
There was a huge ransomware attack last week on one of the largest healthcare companies and I feel like it’s not hit the news at all. A company called Change Healthcare owned by United Healthgroup that’s main product is the go between to bill claims from provider to insurers and then send the electronic payments back was hacked. They’ve been down since 2/20 and there is no estimated date for them to be back up. It’s causing havoc for everyone. But the weirdest part is the response has been very lackluster. Just the same “our systems are down and we will let you know when they are restored”.
Not to mention - all the data that is now in the hands of the hackers.
This brings to the forefront several big problems in healthcare - data security, monopolies/too large market share, financial stability of providers (or lack thereof). It probably warrants a congressional hearing. But it’s unclear if anyone knows this is happening outside of the industry.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 29, 2024 11:38:00 GMT -6
And on the IVF front, one of my favorite authors/IG followers made this sub stack on the Alabama ruling and its impact on fertility care. It’s good to share for people who need more info on why this is a really big deal. http://instagram.com/p/C370ddGOgoP
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Post by byjove on Feb 29, 2024 11:43:51 GMT -6
There was a huge ransomware attack last week on one of the largest healthcare companies and I feel like it’s not hit the news at all. A company called Change Healthcare owned by United Healthgroup that’s main product is the go between to bill claims from provider to insurers and then send the electronic payments back was hacked. They’ve been down since 2/20 and there is no estimated date for them to be back up. It’s causing havoc for everyone. But the weirdest part is the response has been very lackluster. Just the same “our systems are down and we will let you know when they are restored”. Not to mention - all the data that is now in the hands of the hackers. This brings to the forefront several big problems in healthcare - data security, monopolies/too large market share, financial stability of providers (or lack thereof). It probably warrants a congressional hearing. But it’s unclear if anyone knows this is happening outside of the industry. All those disclaimers when you make an account that say the "company will take reasonable precautions to ensure data safety" is such BS. I recently had an airlines account hacked and they said I could no longer use the email address I had associated with it because it was compromised, and they wouldn't ensure the security of my account unless I associated it with a new email address. Not that it was my email account that was hacked (or that I can't keep using my email address for anything else I want)- it was the airlines account on their site! And I didn't have another email address, and not devolve too much, but I was part of the big OPM hack about 10 years ago now and online security just means absolutely nothing to me. A hair above pointless. Companies need to do better.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 29, 2024 11:49:29 GMT -6
There was a huge ransomware attack last week on one of the largest healthcare companies and I feel like it’s not hit the news at all. A company called Change Healthcare owned by United Healthgroup that’s main product is the go between to bill claims from provider to insurers and then send the electronic payments back was hacked. They’ve been down since 2/20 and there is no estimated date for them to be back up. It’s causing havoc for everyone. But the weirdest part is the response has been very lackluster. Just the same “our systems are down and we will let you know when they are restored”. Not to mention - all the data that is now in the hands of the hackers. This brings to the forefront several big problems in healthcare - data security, monopolies/too large market share, financial stability of providers (or lack thereof). It probably warrants a congressional hearing. But it’s unclear if anyone knows this is happening outside of the industry. All those disclaimers when you make an account that say the "company will take reasonable precautions to ensure data safety" is such BS. I recently had an airlines account hacked and they said I could no longer use the email address I had associated with it because it was compromised, and they wouldn't ensure the security of my account unless I associated it with a new email address. Not that it was my email account that was hacked (or that I can't keep using my email address for anything else I want)- it was the airlines account on their site! And I didn't have another email address, and not devolve too much, but I was part of the big OPM hack about 10 years ago now and online security just means absolutely nothing to me. A hair above pointless. Companies need to do better. So frustrating. The companies lack of transparency and lack of getting their systems back online is basically making everyone conclude the worst - they expanded and acquired companies so fast and didn’t have the proper security in place. Which is conjecture at this point, but like…very believable.
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Post by blurnette989 on Feb 29, 2024 12:18:26 GMT -6
jaygee this is interesting. I heard about it because my company has ties to them and we had to analyze any potential loss of our data in the breach. Surprised it's not bigger news stateside.
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Post by byjove on Feb 29, 2024 12:21:48 GMT -6
jaygee this related? If so, again, why punish the people!! And maybe it is starting to finally make the news.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 29, 2024 12:26:50 GMT -6
jaygee this related? If so, again, why punish the people!! And maybe it is starting to finally make the news. I think so. I can’t see any of the other tweets because stupid X but the company Change also owns one of the major go between systems between prescribing docs and pharmacies. That was one of the systems that went down and I’m not sure if that one is back up.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 29, 2024 12:28:17 GMT -6
jaygee this is interesting. I heard about it because my company has ties to them and we had to analyze any potential loss of our data in the breach. Surprised it's not bigger news stateside. Well, I think it will hit now. I just saw on an industry forum that the DOJ opened an antitrust investigation for the top level company yesterday. 👀 CNN did have an article yesterday but it is best described as a puff piece for the company. It really softens the impact. There are providers right now that have a full revenue stoppage. No money coming in and no ability to send claims for services already performed. With no end in sight. Best estimate is weeks rather than days. Considering what most US healthcare providers have in cash on hand, this is absolutely devastating and will have serious consequences.
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Post by elle on Feb 29, 2024 12:51:21 GMT -6
I heard about it briefly last week (?) or around the time AT&T had it's widespread outage. Some were speculating the cell issues were also some kind of cyber attack and pointed out the pharmacy system outage, saying they might be related or whatever. Clearly that's not the case but it's extremely alarming to me that the system isn't back up by now. I'll admit I took it for granted that it would be, I can just imagine how much it's impacting people who are in need of their necessary medications.
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Post by byjove on Feb 29, 2024 13:25:18 GMT -6
Well at least the US gov isn't shutting down this week. I wonder if that was part of why they allowed the new guy to be sworn in yesterday.
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Post by potatocakes on Feb 29, 2024 14:40:08 GMT -6
There was a huge ransomware attack last week on one of the largest healthcare companies and I feel like it’s not hit the news at all. A company called Change Healthcare owned by United Healthgroup that’s main product is the go between to bill claims from provider to insurers and then send the electronic payments back was hacked. They’ve been down since 2/20 and there is no estimated date for them to be back up. It’s causing havoc for everyone. But the weirdest part is the response has been very lackluster. Just the same “our systems are down and we will let you know when they are restored”. Not to mention - all the data that is now in the hands of the hackers. This brings to the forefront several big problems in healthcare - data security, monopolies/too large market share, financial stability of providers (or lack thereof). It probably warrants a congressional hearing. But it’s unclear if anyone knows this is happening outside of the industry. All those disclaimers when you make an account that say the "company will take reasonable precautions to ensure data safety" is such BS. I recently had an airlines account hacked and they said I could no longer use the email address I had associated with it because it was compromised, and they wouldn't ensure the security of my account unless I associated it with a new email address. Not that it was my email account that was hacked (or that I can't keep using my email address for anything else I want)- it was the airlines account on their site! And I didn't have another email address, and not devolve too much, but I was part of the big OPM hack about 10 years ago now and online security just means absolutely nothing to me. A hair above pointless. Companies need to do better. My data was exposed via OPM as well, and I had a really well thought out and carefully executed identity theft happen just a year ago. It's so frustrating, but basically assume anything on the internet is available to everyone (except you if you forgot your password or don't have access to your second factor to log in).
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Post by AmyG on Feb 29, 2024 15:12:43 GMT -6
jaygee, I heard about it when it first happened and have been following. I'm not sure why it's not bigger news. I don't know the validity of what I've read, because I'm not sure that United Healthcare/Change Healthcare truly know the extent of the damage yet/still, when it's been over a week. one of the reports say that the hackers/randomware peeps put out a statement on the dark web, that they now have access to a lot of Medicare, Medicaid, and Tricare-military health care data, including people's identities and all that. One of the reports said that the hacked Change Healthcare subsidary of UHC were pulling all their people to call all users who have "emergent" RX to tell them that the pharmacies are supposed to just give them their meds free of charge. um, I don't think they told all the pharmacies this info. And yes the Feds looking into UHC It was the decing factor for dh to NOT choose any of the AARP UH Medicare Advantage plans this week when he had to decide between original medicare and an advantage plan.
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Post by Bookshelves on Feb 29, 2024 15:13:05 GMT -6
MH used to work in corporate IT, and I was shocked at how often they were subjected to data hacks and how they would just pay the ransom (usually in crypto) because there allegedly wasn’t anything the authorities could do (or at least anything timely enough). It was really eye opening to realize how vulnerable we are. (Collective we, Planet Earth)
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Post by AmyG on Feb 29, 2024 15:14:20 GMT -6
I get the notices in the mail that something else has been compromised and kinda shrug and keep going. Like how many more times can we get compromised before there's just nothing new they could learn about us?
And how many freaking times does yet another doc office need to not only look at my ins card and id but scan them into their not very secure systems?
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Post by elle on Feb 29, 2024 17:26:51 GMT -6
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Post by clucky on Feb 29, 2024 20:26:32 GMT -6
My kid's ADHD meds were affected by that pharmacy issue last Friday. Tried calling Costco and they told me their system was down. They were also unsure when it would be fixed, but it had been going on for a few days by that time.
It just reminds me of the lack of a cyber security branch of the military, which could have been called Space Force. Such a missed opportunity.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 29, 2024 21:19:51 GMT -6
My kid's ADHD meds were affected by that pharmacy issue last Friday. Tried calling Costco and they told me their system was down. They were also unsure when it would be fixed, but it had been going on for a few days by that time. It just reminds me of the lack of a cyber security branch of the military, which could have been called Space Force. Such a missed opportunity. I’m so sorry. I know how awful that is because I feel like we are finally getting past the shortages on those meds. I’m the lady that has cried in the CVS when I can’t get the meds.
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Post by pearbear on Mar 1, 2024 4:49:11 GMT -6
jaygee this related? If so, again, why punish the people!! And maybe it is starting to finally make the news. I think so. I can’t see any of the other tweets because stupid X but the company Change also owns one of the major go between systems between prescribing docs and pharmacies. That was one of the systems that went down and I’m not sure if that one is back up. I know about this because of my job/company and it’s quite alarming! I work for a very big and well known healthcare org and they sent a message out that patients basically can’t get prescriptions sent to most pharmacies until further notice. It’s bananas!
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Post by pearbear on Mar 1, 2024 4:55:39 GMT -6
The healthcare industry has been hit so hard by the pandemic and now post-pandemic challenges related to labor shortages, payer challenges, budget shortfalls, an aging population, lack of new physicians coming down the pipeline, etc. etc. the list goes on and on. It’s pretty bleak, honestly. I fear for the next 10-20 years and what things might look like for our country’s healthcare systems. We already lag behind so many other countries when it comes to our healthcare and it’s just going to get so much worse. Add in these cyber security issues and it’s all such a mess.
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Post by orangebird2020 on Mar 1, 2024 11:24:03 GMT -6
It just reminds me of the lack of a cyber security branch of the military, which could have been called Space Force. Such a missed opportunity. I have been following along as I am currently taking courses on this as part of my masters plus I work in healthcare. These attacks are constant and a military branch sounds like a good defense solution. I am not sure how this latest one will shake out but it has really been impacting patients and providers depending on their coverage. Just yikes is all I feel. I
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Post by LaRo422 on Mar 1, 2024 13:01:35 GMT -6
I’m reading through it and got to where Swalwell asks if the the transcript will be in English or Russian 💀
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Post by byjove on Mar 1, 2024 13:27:31 GMT -6
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Post by byjove on Mar 1, 2024 13:37:54 GMT -6
Promising?
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Post by kbw on Mar 1, 2024 14:43:46 GMT -6
I have so many mixed feelings on this. On one hand I’m hoping it helps those in need but on the other hand I’m angry it’s taken us this long to do something to help the Palestinians.
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Post by byjove on Mar 1, 2024 15:24:17 GMT -6
An elementary school student in our school district was found to have a handgun in their backpack. Thank god nothing happened.
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Post by dc2london on Mar 2, 2024 12:51:03 GMT -6
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